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"I think there's, hmm, a 10% chance that Elizabeth will make Valentine a me. I bet she's at least considered it."

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" - oh gosh. That sounds like a horrible idea. - no offense."

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"No, I agree. I am - withholding judgment on their arrangement but I don't think it represents the general form of a good relationship for instances of me or you. And if she makes him for that purpose and then Valentine doesn't want him he'll be so crushed."

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"We should probably point out to her that Valentine is the person on this plane who is most insistent about noting that slavery is bad every time it comes up, then."

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"Also I'm unclear on Valentine's religion but it sounds like it might be an incompatible one?"

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"Haven't gotten a read on that. I think she's - less certain that devils are going to win in general, than I am. Maybe as certain that they're going to win her."

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"Then that's probably a less compelling objection."

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"Could be wrong. I haven't talked to her about it extensively. She's still half-sure her masters are going to pull her back if they're unpaused, though."

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"It's not the - as long as she would try to make sure her kids didn't go to Hell it wouldn't be a problem.

- for this hypothetical relationship which probably Elizabeth will know better than to attempt to make happen."

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"I don't go out of my way to get my kids there."

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"- I'm sorry. Every time I talk to you I end up sounding - closed-minded and cruel and - I respect you. As a person. But even if I could escape from Osirion's rules I couldn't - you're a good parent, you're great with her, it's one of the first things I noticed about you, I'm not trying to say -"

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" - didn't mean to sound upset. I'm not. Just - I think it's very unlikely she's trying to send her kids to hell."

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Nod.

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"I am kind of worried that I keep sounding more upset than I am. It might be habit, or something."

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"I think I'm probably just paranoid. Because I definitely - think I said something that really bothered you, a while ago, when we were talking about Osirion, and I just don't wanna do that again."

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"It wasn't a big a deal. Or, like - if it was I really wish it would stop."

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"'s none of my business."

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"If there were a thing to say that would explain it then I would. There - isn't, really.

 

"I guess maybe your country's gendered double standards are kind of infuriating. Insofar as I find things infuriating."

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"Yeah. I don't - have actual political power? I guess it is fair to say I should've tried for it."

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"I'm not mad at you about it. Just -  nebulously infuriated at forces I don't understand and might be more or less annoyed at if I did."

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Snort. "Story of my life."

 

Has Elizabeth made any ill-advised people while they were out.

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Nope! 

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Oh good.

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But she is thinking about it! At Connor. She's holding his hand.

 

She's preeeetty sure she shouldn't make a bunch more people without thinking a lot harder about how to responsibly make people, but she is in fact aware of the possibility of trying to custom-make a Connor for Valentine, even though this is a terrible idea.

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Oh gosh that's a terrible idea but then Valentine would have a him and that would be great. 

- he's not totally sure if you can make a him without his family. It feels like they wouldn't totally be a him, somehow.

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