"...That seems like it might be too tight and too loose at the same time, but..."

"I kind of feel that way about oaths in general, actually."

"Less so with explicitly temporary ones, but yeah."

"Bindings are a lot - nicer, in a lot of important ways, but we don't know if they work across dimensions and I think we do need to make sure they don't take additional summons, too. If we go ahead with that plan we can and should spend a long time on wording, I doubt the first thing that came to mind is the ideal answer..."

"True."

"If we do find someone cooperative with mind-affecting powers there could be tests for whether it interfaces with oaths too."

"We've still got the problem that the door's dangerous to go through, we can't have exploratory teams in and out..."

"Why's it dangerous?"

"I think Rosalie got it in the middle of a firefight."

"...That's probably not dangerous to daeva, though..."

"Cape firefight. Can't vouch for everybody's powers being as tame as literal fire."

"If these things can damage daeva in ways other than making them crazy I think that makes it even more important to interact with this dimension."

"Unclear, possible - powers are contagious though -"

"Mm. If I forked Ada and Amelia they'd probably be--relatively okay--with the possibility of never coming back if it came down to it. More okay than just letting things be would be."

"We'd still want a contingency for if something happened to whoever summoned them."

"Yeah..."

"Besides, it's really a fairy we need in there."

"The other kinds aren't nothing, but yeah."

"It's news to us that people daevafy, but what decides which they are, exactly?"

"I've always thought it a matter of personality affinity with the magic but I don't have a huge sample size."

"That's what I thought, too. I talked to Tyelcormo about it. We're pretty sure if it's that Feanaro would be a demon."

"Well, at the moment at least we've got demons, we need a fairy."

"I think fairies are more common than angels or demons but not by enough to be certain to avoid extraneous daeva forks solely by steering clear of obvious demons like Fëanáro."

"Tyelcormo'd definitely be one, if it's affinity with the powers - Oromë is one - but I am pretty sure he doesn't want to fork -"

"You might be a fairy but I could also see angel..."