He's not a you. Think it'll occur to him to lie if we ask? Think it'll occur to him to lie if I ask, privately?

Maybe not. Probably not. Still should've bugged him - though he's a magic Elf, he could ask over osanwë anyway - 

Oh well. Next time.

He comes back. "Does this bar place stay put, I need to give Nelyo a call and he needs to come do that."

"...It stays put as long as someone from your universe is holding the door. If the door closes it's gone."

"So can one of you give him a call? I can tell you the number."

"Yeah. Anything in particular I should be telling your coworkers? I don't mind telling them the whole truth, or parts of it redacted for infosec if it should be redacted for infosec, and the truth includes stuff like 'can make fertile eggs of dodo birds and passenger pigeons and so on', that might be compelling to the kind of people who work at a national park."

Uh, we do not want another evil me in here -

"Probably don't tell them anything, just ask to use the phone."

Do you have any advice on finding out whether or not he's evil quickly? "Presumably the fact that you are standing around holding the door is going to require explaining if nothing else."

"Not especially, they think I'm weird."

No idea, I just don't think we should risk it.

"...So far the other Maitimo from a single-planet Arda was evil, I think I mentioned that, and this one doesn't want to risk letting yours in if he's evil too."

"You can go fuck yourself," he says to Maitimo.

"I apologize for casting aspersions on your brother's character if they turn out not to be warranted."

"You have no idea what he's been through."

"No, I don't."

"To be clear, the kind of evil we're worried about is less 'was coerced into killing people by Oath' and more 'literally raping Findekano.'"

"I am pretty sure no version of Nelyo would ever do that, what the fuck."

"There's one who is upstairs. We have no idea what the fuck, which is why we're trying to be careful."

"That is not a problem."

I think Evil Maitimo said his brothers knew and didn't mind... she says to not-evil Maitimo.

Could have been lying.

Yeah. I'd ask him to swear it if we were sure he didn't have free will. Do you think it would work to ask Findekano to swear that Maitimo's brothers know? And if so, would it be worth it?

It's not urgent. We can deal with this all in a year.