After Cam's magic but still basically human boyfriend has fallen asleep and Cam finds he is not tired enough to do the same, Cam goes downstairs.
"...I didn't spend long enough under the Imperius to know much about what forming intents under it is like and whether it'd trip the ambiguity thing..."
"You could get around that even if it did with a close enough phrasing. Honestly the best solution might be just not telling wizards that Elves make oaths."
"And not flinch if humans use similar wording and not be conspicuous in avoiding it themselves and never being around an intrusive Legilemens or targeted by a clumsy Memory Charm or subject to Veritaserum..."
"I'd be seriously tempted to just quarantine wizards from everyone if there weren't Muggleborns."
"I'm not sure the test Miranda used will work for me, might not be able to disentangle intending to use Occlumency to ignore the potion versus just attempting to nope it - could test separately with other potions and find out if daeva can reject them like we can ordinary drugs -" Note.
"But we can't teach it to everyone who's going to come into contact with wizards when even most wizards can't be bothered to learn it."
"Honestly I think more wizards would bother to learn it if they didn't grow up with the idea that all the stuff it protects against is totally normal, but yes, probably can't get everybody on board."
"What would be really nice would be a way to tell if spells are cast, make law enforcement way more straightforward..."
"The spell would have to automate a lot of discriminatory capacity to not just deluge whoever was watching in householdy spells. Also it would be creepy. Also this is beside the point, we were trying to go over what things we can all do to see if they might mix usefully."
"The oaths working on the chips doesn't seem like a very significant difference, is there some implication of that which I'm missing?"
"It's possible your souls are just direct analogues that don't happen to be material, but chips admit of a lot of fairly mechanistic poking and prodding. Like, it would be possible in principle to fiddle with somebody's chip until an oath was removed, without being a Vala, even though we don't in fact know how to do that."