"So... the only thing keeping Sin alive is Yu Yevon, summoning through you, but you said the goal was Zanarkand..."

    "Sin is Zanarkand's protection."

"When you say dream..."

    "Aeons are the dream of the fayth. So is Zanarkand. So is Sin."

"And what, the people of Spira are a threat to it? To Zanarkand?"

"—is that why Sin always attacks places that start developing better tech—"

    "Yes."

"...what happens to Zanarkand if Yu Yevon dies?"

    "It, like, all dreams, will disappear."

"But – there are people there – why is it the goal, why does it need to be protected from the rest of Spira, can we just drug Yevon or something?"

"Yu Yevon is less human than we are, and human ailments no longer trouble him. It needs to be protected because it was almost destroyed once—long, long ago, in a big war..."

"Do you know what started the war, why it happened?"

"I do not; it was before my time."

"… Presumably he wants it to exist for reasons other than it having recently been in peril?"

"He wants—to preserve it. Not let it be lost, as it would have been in the war."

"Is there not a way to have it communicate with the rest of the world, trade culture and – exchange other things?"

"Sin will stop any such attempts."

"But – right, I mean – as a way to obviate the need for Sin?"

"Yu Yevon will not stop building Sin. Yu Yevon is the act of building Sin, and of summoning Zanarkand; there is naught left."

"And there's – no person around, enough, to try to convince them to change that?"

"Indeed."

Sigh.

"Would you be against the idea of us trying to figure out how to get rid of him?"

    "We would be most thankful if you did that."

"—yeah but Zanarkand disappears too."

"– Could we, I don't know, get rid of him in some less trivial way and keep his spell active?"

"It's not a regular spell, it's a summoning, and when the summoner dies there's nothing channelling it anymore..."

"And you can't, say, hotswap the summoner, transfer the ownership to someone else?"

"—maybe. I mean, no, not right now, but—if one could figure that out—"

"That might be a way to go about it – I'm not sure how difficult that'd be, do you have any sort of guess?"

"It would be unprecedented—I have no idea how we'd even go about doing it—Lulu might know more."

"Other ideas for how to do it – we can't knock him unconscious conventionally, but maybe something magical would work better –?"

"Yu Yevon is no longer even like me. He is only his emotions, only the drive to summon. He is made entirely of magic, and regret."