"One of 'em's the Technical Empress with the library."

"Who's the other?"

"I don't know much about them, just that Hell was recently conquered by one."

...giggle.

"That's not super common knowledge, but hey, seventeenth-tier wizard."

"You might also have to explain Hell—"

"--Uh, the afterlife for evil people."

"...you might have to explain 'afterlife' - I mean, we have the concept, but I'm pretty sure we don't have the thing itself."

"...I mean...if your magic doesn't do interplanar travel I'm not sure how you'd know if you did or not."

"If there was an afterlife and it was possible to do magic there I'd expect Hali to have invented interplanar travel by now."

"...Sorcerers who know plane shift, uh, ever stay dead--you can't do wizardry or sorcery or clerical magic in the afterlives--Celestials and Infernals and apparently the Origin can but they work differently--I have no idea how to expect yours to work like that but I wouldn't consider her continued absence proof of no afterlife."

"She's had three thousand years, I'm pretty sure she'd have figured something out. But now that you've got me thinking about it, this is what she looks like—"

He makes an illusion.

"--People in Hell get tortured, uh, a lot."

"I wouldn't count on that to stop Hali."

She sighs. "I dunno. Wouldn't she at least be less likely to fuck shit up here based on 'is in Hell or some equivalent attached to this plane' than 'floating around as a ghost' or something?"

"If there were ghosts I'm really pretty sure I'd know."

"Well then you must have some kind of afterlife, right?"

"...you lost me."

"If you don't have ghosts or an afterlife where exactly are you positing the soul goes when you die?"

"...nowhere because that's not a thing?"

???

"...Uh, yes, it is."

"Okay, if your magic system has 'everybody definitely still exists after they die and it's just a question of how', I'll admit that's one advantage it has over mine, although in cases like Hali I'm very glad I don't have to worry about her still being out there somewhere doing things."

"I mean...it's possible to do things to souls...that just doesn't happen by default. Uh. How is your immortality supposed to work if you don't have a soul?"

"...how were you expecting it to work?"

"You said it doesn't matter if your body gets destroyed, right?"