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"Yeah. The risks of introducing them and tempting some orcs to retaliate for the side-effects of the sudden sanifying of the Valar might outweigh the benefits, honestly. Maybe when we start worldhopping we'll find a resurrection solution."

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"Maybe the Singularity orcs should talk to the ones in other worlds."

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"There's an idea. Might be disruptive, but - they all deserve to know and hearing it from other orcs will probably go over better."

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"Yes, exactly."

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" - should probably be someone other than me, are there some nations in your Endorë on good terms with their orcs..."

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"Yes, most of them, orcs are perfectly nice under unconstrained conditions. I met some myself, if I try I can spend most of a day in an orc city without having to sing and I went to Endorë on our honeymoon - that wasn't recent though, probably better to go through Brithombar or something."

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"That sounds lovely. I'll drop Brithombar a message."

 

He does that.

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Brithombar can introduce him to orcs well-positioned to get Singularity's orcs in touch with local ones in a stable and productive way. Also some of the more socially liberal or ungoverned Elven states in Endorë now have a thriving demon sex trade they're not sure whether to expect the Valar to object are the Valar inclined to object.

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Probably not. Right?

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....that sounds complicated what does Ambela think or should they try to reason it out themselves and then compare their conclusion to Ambela's?

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She's curious what they come up with!

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People have a preference that makes no sense to the Valar, usually when that happens the best thing to do is to not try stopping them from acting on it unless it's hurting people. This could be hurting people if they agree to a deal and then can't withdraw agreement, or if they agree to a deal under emergency circumstances, so those things are probably bad but those are also things that disallowing wouldn't fix. It could also be hurting people if casual or transactional sex is inherently bad for Elves. But Elves probably have more insight into that than they do. Uh, they think the answer is to check that people aren't doing that because they are systematically desperate for some reason? And to collect data on the inherently bad for Elves question. 

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That is also Ambela's conclusion!

Also, Elves have an easier out than most species from deals they can't renege on because they can if they want just die to dismiss their daeva and be reembodied.

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People aren't doing it because they're systemically desperate they're doing it because having demons around is amazingly convenient and also demons get so excited over how pretty Elves are, it's very flattering. They're mostly doing long-term tasks so the task isn't complete and the demon can be dismissed if they are being a jerk. Obviously they're collecting data on detrimental social effects.

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Good!

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The soul Elves are so weirded out by this. 

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"Unless you don't end up married to someone who isn't themself an Elf? There are presumably worlds in which this came up - Bar, soul Ardas, stories about interspecies relationships..."

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Bar produces stories!

It looks sort of like Eru's case by casing it or something.

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He reports this.

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"Charming. You poor things."

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"It probably wouldn't bother most people that much, but..."

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"But thoroughly ruin a few lives? Which is exactly how Eru likes it."

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"Well, the constraint would annoy a lot of people in an incidental not particularly tragic way but the life ruining is probably why it works like that, yes."

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"Yeah. If it's rare enough they don't treat it as a constraint, more opportunity for-" Sigh. "Well, none of our worlds have summoning and they don't need it soon or anything."

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Nod.

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