"If you say so."

"...like I haven't specifically read a lot of twin studies or anything but I think that's basically how it works, it's not like people have souls to provide differentiation that isn't coming from either of genes or what-all happens after the genes are all spelled out. I guess if I believed in souls I would have a different opinion on this?"

"But they're not usually born exactly the same weight, are they?  Like there's other stuff besides genes that go into making up a person which, you could call them circumstance, but - seem different from that, to me."  Actually could they be hugging tighter than this.

They could! They so could! "They're not exactly the same weight, sure, that's - off center as a nurture factor but still something of one, same as if you fed them different amounts after they were born and got them to keep on being different sizes that way."

"I think I'm claiming that twins have nature factors which are not genes which maybe spy thriller cloning instead makes the same as they were for their person, or something.  - I am really hating quibbling about this but it seems important for figuring out how to get the least possible amount of child torture??"

"I don't think it affects our ability to prevent child torture? We are both against child torture whether or not it turns out that they have also cloned Svetka's soul or whether or not there are important things one of us is wrong about regarding the nurture hypothesis? And also we're awakening and kinda on the run and stuff."

Cling!  "But if we think they're only going to hurt the clone then maybe we can find some sort of intermediate measure that delays them without putting us in danger until we're done awakening, and if instead they're going to go for classes then that's - more complicated.  Isn't it?"

"Classes like Baby's First and Second and Third Contract Hits or do I misunderstand?"

"Of random first graders."

"Well, they haven't made any specific threats yet."

"I can check the article for ciphers.  Would you like pizza?"

"Yes please!"

She blinks.  "- This is one of your fawning symptoms?"

"Yes sorry please ignore that unless it ever actually in real life affects your willingness to abandon me."

She nods and brings him and Julien a slice each, bare out of the box.  They're still warmish.

Time to figure out maximally snuggly pizza-eating.