Sadde and Bell in Worm
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"Yeah, I figured."

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(She is really seductive and really straight and that is slightly annoying ngh.)

"The solution is of course to become post-human immortal mind uploads with access to our source code and backups and stuff."
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"Sounds like a plan. And then ruling the world as a software Tinker will be much easier."

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"...hmm, I wonder if we'd keep our powers upon being uploaded, though."

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"...Good question."

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"We'll probably need to figure out a lot more about how powers connect to people before getting there, I guess."

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"Yeah. I wouldn't like to go without mine."

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"I... don't think I'd mind losing mine all that much if it was a necessary part of becoming an emulation?"

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"Well, yours is kind of different, if we're assuming the sim quality is any good you could replace most of its effects. Mine's about how I think and can think and cannot be made to think."

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"But having full access to and edit rights for your source code would obviate the need, wouldn't it?"

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"In principle, if we assume nobody can hack me. Not for my tinker power."

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"The hacking problem would still be there regardless of your thinker power, though, and if you were an em you might be able to actually develop your tinker knowledge in a way that's not nebulous sourceless ideas."

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"Maybe. We don't know how tinker bullshit actually works well enough to guess if that would cut it."

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"Well, whatever it is you're doing is actually doable, so it should be possible to figure it out..."

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"It's been speculated that tinkers are actually not tinkers, that we have some kind of other power holding stuff together."

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"...what, like, teekay holding their machines together or something?"

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"Nothing that obvious but that's the idea. Some low-key Shaker-sorta power."

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"Well, but, it'd have to be really long range, wouldn't it? ...although I suppose my power's pretty long range, too."

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"Or it persists on the tinkered thing - plenty of capes can affect objects and then be arbitrarily far away from the objects."

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"Persists but wears off, under that hypothesis. I... suppose it has some merit, but then how does software tinkering even work? What is the power focusing on?"

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"No clue. I'm not relying on rand seeds or anything."

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"Well you might as well be, given the mysteriousness of the source of the knowledge."

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"It's just not obvious that there's any nondeterministic behavior in the software for a power to sneak in to help with."

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"There could be unforeseen side effects with the particular implementation of your language? And it's not unthinkable that your power might be subtly influencing your mind from the inside and making you neglect to notice this kind of thing."

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"That's possible, although it'd have to be making the bot not notice too."

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