"I'll tell Gem - she'll have an easier time tracking them down than me." Note note.

"Then there's the question of how to reintegrate the Númenoreans."

"The ones who were under all the rock and are currently stashed in the wished-up Lórien duplicate in Gem's Australia for lack of a better idea?"

"Well, those, but also, Númenor at its destruction had a larger population than the current population of the whole world, and a higher tech level, and were conducting all sorts of horrible colonial abuses."

"Unless they're attached to specific geography finding them a place to go isn't a problem. And I think Gem's model of resurrection will probably sort of - meter the influx? Maybe they can do a slow integration."

"The whole society was - and still is, in some places, three thousand years later, a hierarchy of who had the most Elven blood. A very slow integration might do it, but on the scale of Ages, not even centuries."

"Oh. Yeah, the model won't throttle it quite that much. Gem could just annex them on behalf of Mîr, maybe, if it's that bad."

"They enslaved and/or extinguished most of the native cultures they encountered, it was a mess even before Sauron."

"You should probably be aware that by default Elf populations are really pleasant and docile compared to human populations under like any stress."

"Oh, I think their behavior was entirely typical of humans told they were specially chosen by their gods and Ages ahead of anyone else with technology. But also, it was very harmful, and I think would start up again."

"Okay. It's just probably not going to be that surprising to, say, Gem, who has some human population in Mîr."

"Then she is welcome to handle it. ...having humans under Elven rule was also tried and was also not great."

"What happened?"

"Uh, ended up with a serious problem of internalizing Elven aesthetics and abilities as the ideal and valuing humans commensurate to how well they approximated Elves. Also Elven sexual mores don't seem to work very well for humans."

"Oh, I was expecting something less obvious."

"Well, the Elves also tended to treat humans as disposable on account of their mortality, but that won't be a problem any more, and if there were other ones they were overshadowed by the obvious."

Nod. "It's worked on a small scale, me and Kib both lived in Valinors for a while - Loki basically adopted the entire race of Men when they were three weeks old and had them living in an Elf city for a few years - but I guess it doesn't scale up naively."

"I have - something of a claim to King of Men, as much as King of the Noldor. It did not seem like a good idea. It still doesn't."

"...they were ever that united?"

"My brother was the King of Men. Not all of them in the whole world but more than six in ten."

"Yeah, I wouldn't try to trade on that."

"I used to know someone who used to be someone who could have pulled it off."

"We are all very impressed with how Maitimos do politics when they do politics, yes. But, uh, we're anticipating that when this one is hauled out of Mandos he would prefer to cease to exist."

"Yes. Can that be done?"

"Yes."