"That's– even Elves don't do that." Strongest invective there is, probably.

It gets a stir.

Melkor: worse than Elves in at least one way.

"Melkor's evil. Elves are worse," someone says after a while contemplating.

"If you want to live but can't betray Melkor, I have an idea.

But I don't want to tell you if we aren't going to do it. Will you swear you've only said true things if I swear I don't think my idea betrays him?"

"Haven't only said true things."

"Then most things true, but say which were lies?"

"Don't remember."

"That you can't help Elves or betray Melkor, have to kill Elves, orcs swear at three, you will be able to keep people from knowing you were captured..."

"Those are true, last one not sure."

"Last one would have helped.

Can you swear to the others and that the last is more often true than not?"

"Yes. Swear I can't help Elves or betray Melkor, swear we have to kill Elves unless we can take them prisoner and then we have to take them back to Angband, swear to Melkor as soon as you can talk whole sentences, usually no one would guess we were captured and let go."

The language source does not include a word for "thank you," for some reason.

"The thing I'm thinking of would not have you betray Melkor. I swear that I have not lied to you."

There are a lot of other people who need to have a say in this. She tells the Elves: plan, likely failure, unlikely failure, what each of those would mean.

And, she adds, the Fëanorians need to know. They'll be in favor, it's a positive expectation gamble without Valar-based interference, but it's really high risk. Possibly the highest.

I can't reach Maitimo from here, Findekáno can you—

They need to know right now?

Before we do anything, and the longer we wait the more suspicion the orcs would be under.

If you're in range you're probably not the only one, it's not so urgent that it has to be you in particular...

Maitimo?

Yes?

Amber has an idea. He relays it. We won't do it without your approval, given the risk -

I will ask the King.

Sigh. He waits.

We think it's worth it.

They're in favor. Of course.

Predictably. Realistically objections or royal vetoes would have to come from our end.

I'm asking my father. 

Amber?