"No one would find out without you telling them?"

She forwards all this to the Elves.

If it's true they can keep that secret, they shouldn't be more of a threat than any other orcs, right? We'd have to add on oaths about content, so they don't just happen to know what subjects we're interested in or the fact that I'm here, but that should be easier.

I really doubt that's true. But yes, if it were I suppose it'd be fine -

Yeah, everything comes with that "if."

And keeping promises means different things here; if they have weekly random mind readings or something then we couldn't promise that in their position but they could.

Yep. Which is worrying.

So she adds to the last question, "If anyone finds out without you saying, how?"

"Melkor reads our heads?"

"Melkor reads your heads.

How often?"

"Not often. Only if someone's betraying him or there's a mystery."

She can't find that last word anywhere.

"Would he read your heads if you came back from here?"

"Only if someone told him."

"And is there any other way of people finding out?"

"Could have seen Elves attack us, wonder we're not dead? Think we worked with Elves." He spits.

"How often is it that anyone sees?" It'd be awfully convenient to be able to talk about probability directly. Oh well.

"This hasn't happened before."

"When Elves attack, how often is it that anyone sees and thinks everyone is dead."

"Usually they run away so they don't die too."

"After they run, how long does it take to find out who is alive? More than how long you have been here?"

"Not that long probably."

"Then if they see you they will wonder why you're alive?"

"No."

"Why not?"

"Sometimes it takes longer than it's been, won't be strange."

Nod. "Can you swear you only said true things?

If before you leave you can swear enough things to know that Melkor will not find out we talked, Elves will let you leave.
I swear that I have not lied to you."

I really doubt they'll be able to, not to the amount of certainty we'd need. But– if.

"No."

"Elves think they will have to kill you because of your oaths. I'm trying to find what your oaths allow, lies won't help."