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No such source is detectable. They can build seismology equipment but that may not help. Would Doriath like floating amulets of true seeing? Because they now have enough for that.

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She'll be happy to bring them a boxful.

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Doriath can do that with Melian, thank you, and does not really want more fishy Noldorin magic in their kingdom.

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Okay then. She'll just bring the boxful back to be elsewhere disposed of.

How's Maedhros doing?
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Maedhros is back to not being chained to the wall, and actually they were going to let him go outside, supervised, would Loki like to come along?

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Sure!

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So they leave Menegroth, with Lúthien's customary hundred-person escort, and go to a brook and sit in the grass singing. Except Maedhros, who is still sound-baffled, and who takes the opportunity to talk to Loki. How's it going?

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Going all right. She relays Fingon's comments about ambassadoring-in-couples and regard/concern/generalized exasperated affection. Congratulations on getting detached from the wall again.

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Elu Thingol will be so much happier once he can have a planet where his wife doesn't have to run herself into the ground protecting his people. I told him I'd be deeply honored to serve him in acquiring them one.

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Should I be volunteering as a taxi service or are you proposing to do that yourself once you can teleport?

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I imagine he'd still be happier to have you be the one doing it. I gave my word that I was accurately representing my current intent but I am not bound to that intent or to actually personally do it.

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I wouldn't have guessed they'd want to move, actually, with Melian so dug in to this particular forest.

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Melian doesn't think you can take down the Enemy without destroying Beleriand. She is not happy about it but she does not see another path, and nor do the Valar apparently, unless your interdimensional magic comes through.

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So she thinks I'm going to go and come back with planetbusting amounts of antimatter but is willing to be evacuated. All right. I totally told Ulmo what my plan was though.

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I don't actually know how the Ainur share information. They didn't tell Melian about the Kinslaying, for instance. It's a bit puzzling.

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Couldn't tell you.

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I am grateful for the avenue to get Thingol's interest in cooperation even if you end up preserving this world just fine.

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Really? I'm looking forward to have the flexibility to stop pretending to give a shit about his opinions.

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I don't think he's ever going to be useful to me. But - my father only notices people who are interesting and useful, most people just escape him, and for me that would be a terribly lonely way to live. I do not care about Thingol but I care very much for doing right by him and ending up a person he respects and trusts.

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I suppose that's a convenient hobby to have under the circumstances.

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Yes, on the scales I'm used to, 'put up with someone for a while' is an insane way to conduct yourself. I suppose that instinct doesn't matter any more, but he knows I operate by it and it helps me.

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I can put up for people with a long time, if I have to.

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I thought I'd be running Valinor's politics quite literally for all eternity.

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Then I suppose some - whatever thing you're doing that's probably healthier than doublethink - is a perfectly reasonable strategy.

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A desire to do right by people that persists beyond the incentives that I had when I adopted it. If you're as manipulative as I am and don't have that, people really cannot trust you.

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