Remei wasn't too hard to find, if you gave her description to enough people. She's here.

Victòria is here, looking miserable and not really trying to hide it.

Lluïsa has stormed in with different clothes from usual (still hatted and cloaked and booted the same, but with slightly fancier and better-fitting clothes under them, and gloves).

"I hardly hold out hope for Useful Work to be performed by such a Laughably Small Rump Committee," she opens. "Perhaps I shall be Pleasantly Surprised, or perhaps I shall have to Denounce your Irregular Business in the absence of a Quorum. More pressingly, have any of you any News of the Whereabouts of our Colleagues, chiefly among them Delegate Enric Porras and Select of Iomedae Valia Wain? Certainly the whereabouts of Select Wain in particular are the Chief Issue of the Moment in this City."

Is Porras important or something? Remei assumes that if Wain's not in the stocks somewhere for people to throw tomatoes at her then it's probably because the Queen wants it that way so she won't speculate on that either.

"She wasn't at the palace and she wasn't at the temple either, Alicia and I went and checked, and no one at the temple had seen her since yesterday morning. ...I think she was probably murdered. Liushna is also missing but I don't know if she was murdered, I don't know where she was staying."

"Certainly not even the Gods bereft of Prophecy could have predicted such an Outcome," she replies icily. She should probably be nicer to someone whose... lover? (it's still unclear) was possibly killed, but she isn't being nice, for some unclear reason.

"And my count of Delegates who are Missing and Presumed Murdered sees Increase once more. I have heard it rumored as well that the other Select of Iomedae was Strung from a Lamp-Post. Thus the Church of Iomedae in Westcrown is Masterfully Decapitated; is your Goddess pleased with your Work? Did you awake to a new Circle of Spells?"

"I don't think people should murder innocent people, if that's what you're implying," she snaps.

Taldaris managed to avoid being on either end of an angry mob last night by the timely rainstorm and concern for his sister. "Barrister, Avenger, there's no need for this. We're here to ensure justice is possible, not to sling petty insults. There will be plenty of time for that later."

"Should Select Wain live, and perhaps even if she be Dead, the Law will turn its Gaze towards her soon enough. I invite you to keep a Great Distance in that event, Calistrian, that you not talk her under the final blade. Unless it is to take all the Blame yourself, which I would hardly gainsay."

"—but she didn't break the law?" Victòria has enough sense, barely, not to say we checked. "The Queen's — I don't agree with everything she's done but she's not Asmodeus, everyone knows it's Evil to punish people who haven't done anything wrong!"

And now that she's thinking about it it feels very stupid to have trusted her even that far, it's not like the nobility would care whether you actually broke the law if you upset them enough, but surely even the Queen isn't going to decide that Delegate Ibarra throwing Fireballs into crowds of innocent people is somehow Valia's fault.

"Yes, someone who hasn't broken any laws should probably not be prosecuted by the queen's magistrates. That's a good legal principle to have. Does anyone else have suggestions to make about the judiciary?"

"People who Fireball crowds of innocent people should be prosecuted for it even if they're nobles or powerful wizards. Does that count as a suggestion or is it too specific."

"It's pretty specific. Also kind of implies that we have to have trials for everybody in the crowd, to check if they're innocent? It should probably just be illegal to Fireball crowds of people if it's not self-defense even if it should happen that every one of them is a murderer."

"Select Wain's speech was plainly a Lawful Act." Agreeing with Victòria takes most of the acid out of her voice. "Perhaps an Ill-Advised one. Perhaps the givers of said Ill Advice sit among us now," one last snipe.

"Just as plainly, an Enraged and Grieving City sits Burned and Pillaged, and who is the Public Figure at the Center of Events? I hope for Law to prevail; I hope for a Trial to Ratify before the Public that Select Wain did no Unlawful Act. Even if Dead she may well be Raised for such a Trial. It is certain that Select Wain will not be permitted to Silently Vanish Away, leaving the city to Stew in its Rage. Whether it is Justice that is done, or a Sacrifice given unto the Mob, may still yet be Decided."

Probably she'd have given different advice if she'd realized that the nobles were going to take advantage of the situation to start murdering people but she doesn't see why Delegate Oriol i Cornellà is trying to make it seem like she was — trying to get Valia killed, or something. Obviously she didn't want Valia killed. She is not going to cry about that in front of the Judiciary Committee, that would just be pathetic, it's not even like an azata where they're too confusing to hurt you over it.

"Obviously anyone who took advantage of what was going on last night to kill innocents or burn down houses full of people or anything like that should face justice. But — look, we barely even had trials where I grew up, but — I don't see what the point of putting her on trial would be? Like, it wouldn't make sense to — randomly put you on trial for murdering Delegate Porras, if everyone knew you were on the other side of town, or something. Unless they were trying to execute her for something you didn't even do, which would be... incredibly Evil... obviously..."

"Trying her is the Favorable Outcome, unless you would prefer her Summary Execution. Perhaps the new Queen is not so wasteful as to Raise the Dead merely to Execute her Publicly; or perhaps she will think that less Costly than letting her Lie."

Taunting someone with the death of her probable-lover is best used sparingly. She'll leave it at that.

"...It would definitely be worse to just execute her without a trial? Do we need to pass a law saying 'innocent people should not be punished if they didn't do anything wrong,' I really thought that was obvious but maybe not. ...I guess probably if the Queen would do that she wouldn't care what we said about it."

"Your Prodigious Wisdom is the Balm for all Ills of Justice, good Delegate! Perhaps you have the Tenth Circle of Spells of your Goddess, and may Divine what we Mortal Wretches know not. But the Demigoddess Victòria Ferrer can be in only one City at a Time, and in those Sad Days of your Lamented Absence we Mortals must resort to Trials."

"—I didn't say any of that???"

Alonso... had not processed that Wain would be resurrected, if murdered during the riots. Some of his anger softens, tho it is unlikely they will manage to resurrect everyone who died. He speaks up, now that everyone else has had a chance to vent some of their emotions, and hopefully to cut off the squabbling.

"We should perhaps step back from recent events and think about the judiciary as a whole." He nods towards Lluisa. "If you'll forgive me for speaking quickly and oversimplifying things, the point of the judicial system is to not to make law, or even really to enforce it, but to answer questions related to it. In a contract dispute, which party is in the right? When someone is accused of a crime, did they do it?"

He turns towards Victoria. "I think we could and should have a law against punishing the innocent, but if I understand correctly, that is a question for the rights committee."

He pauses for a moment. "I also don't think we can say, in general, that no one should be executed without a trial. We have to be wary of exceptions; if someone is burning down a village, I do not think we should encumber the protectors of civilization with the welfare of that evildoer. But trials in situation of uncertainty and no imminent harm trials seem important for not making mistakes."

"I think there's some overlap between the Rights Committee and the Judiciary Committee, and the Rights Committee isn't meeting right now. ...How hard is it to resurrect people? I've only ever heard of that happening in stories, could we have a law that if you have someone executed and it turns out they're innocent they have to be brought back?"

"Thousands of gold," says Remei flatly.

"Which is so enormously expensive that it was not until I came to this archmage's convention that I ever met someone I knew to be resurrected," Alonso says with some bitterness, "but I suppose if it doesn't leave a mark, there'd be no way to know for sure."

"The Commission of Violence in the Moment is not a Judicial Proceeding, though it may Occasion one after the Fact." She sighs, most of her yelling-at-Victòria energy sapped.

"Proposed: It is the Finding of the Rump Committee on Matters Pertaining to the Judiciary that those Charged with Capital Offenses have the Right to be Tried Fairly on those Offenses. Yea or nay?"

"Yea."