"Clear communication of a list of known churches in good standing and a list of proscribed churches sounds like a useful thing.  The constitution doesn't have to decide everything, just the highest set of laws.  We can trust the Queen with instituting a more fine tuned process for more ambiguous or obscure Gods."

"There's a lot the crown doesn't know about, some good and some evil. Up until a year or so ago, the only way to be a good cleric was to be someone the crown couldn't see. If we try to ban every cleric and church that doesn't get permission, that will put a stop to more good than evil."

To Nuria "- I expect the rates to functionally increase, now that Geryon and Mephistopheles are illegal." To Alicia "- I am confident that cases like yours are only a small minority, and the chief trouble is active cults of active and unaware demon lords, daemon harbingers, and archdevils."

"Do you have an example in mind, Delegate Porras?"

"Why?" Andreu asks Enric. "Yesterday, that was so. The Church of Sarenrae in Ravounel was illegal. Today it is not; today we fly the Dawnflower's banner high. If they wish to do so, they can do the same. The need to fear has passed for all save the wicked."

“Okay but…Sarenrae being illegal was bad. I’m sure if we make worshipping someone not on the list illegal, those people will find cracks to grow through, but it’s still our job to do better than that.”

"Why don't they obtain recognition? The hour of secrecy has passed, and the Church of Sarenrae would gladly support any Good cleric in being recognized as such and allowed to practice freely."

"A surprising number of people don't read, so it's hard to make sure a message definitely gets to everyone!"

Some Gods innately value secrecy or mystery or don’t care for recognition.  But, they don’t have officially allotted delegates at this convention so Thea sees no advantage in raising this point.  And she isn’t very sure of it anyway.

“Also, is it actually the case that Geryon or Mephistopheles would have to disguise themselves as someone unknown and not pretend to be a slightly weird sect of one of the approved gods?”

to Laia "Ah, I'm not- I can't use any who still don't want attention as examples. Because of the hiding. I'll try to figure out a way to explain..."

How does he explain that hiding from the crown and the church and the nobles is the default, for anyone doing anything, and you only come to their attention if there's no other way?

to Andreu- "Not everyone trusts the new queen yet. I thought she was Iomedae, at first, but now I don't know what's going on. Or the next queen might change her mind about a good church, and use the list of all their clerics against them."

To Laia, "If we cannot spread the word of the defeat of Asmodeus and the triumph of the Good gods to every corner of Cheliax, we are failing at our primary purpose - and if we can, we can say what the laws are and are not."

To Nuria, "Hence point two, regarding each temple being inspected by the leadership of their respective recognized churches."

To Enric "- If the Queen does that, the Good churches assembled will strike her down, knowing her to to an oathbreaker and a tyrant and no true queen of Cheliax."

“The Queen is strong enough I don't think any objections mean much unless the Archmagi also agree with them." 

And in which case there will be a more brutal and protracted war than the Four Day War.  Thea should possibly increase her stockpile of food and resources.

"And as for the the leadership... it is still lacking or developing even for normally larger and more organized churches... and many chaotic churches aren’t very centralized or hierarchical in the first place.” 

She gives a nod to Nuria and Tetula about this point.

"But overall, I think that just means whatever constitution is enacted, we need to include a gradual rollout of the terms of the constitution.  It would give time to build up trust and spread the word."

She looks to Enric about her last point.

"The Queen and her archmages are supported by the lords of the Upper Planes, but should they all succumb to evil, nonetheless it is better for us to side with the powers of Heaven and Nirvana and Elysium than with the powers of the earth. The living may kill you, but the power of the upper planes is to save your soul, and forty years of agony on earth - or four thousand in Hell - is meaningless compared with the eternity of bliss reserved for those the gods of Good save. Put not your faith in the powers of lords of this world but in the gods of Good and trust in them, and your reward will come."

"A lot of Chaotic gods don't even have temples. Cayden Cailean doesn't, Desna doesn't... if I start a tavern am I going to have to register it with the state?"

"I think if we try to do this, then Cheliax will have fewer clerics of Chaotic Good gods, and more unnecessary trouble for the ones that there are."

"See, some of the things I'm thinking of are things like what Tetula said, where if you let the crown make a record of what you're doing that just means the officials can mess with you. Even if the queen is good, some places still have barons and tax collectors. So better for your life to be none of their business."

"It's not just a chaotic thing either, not having all that structure for your church. I've never heard of a high priest of Erastil or any ranks there, he just puts a cleric in a place that needs one. Unless they have one now?" Enric isn't a cleric so he doesn't know this for sure.

to Theia- "That sounds like a good idea in general, not messing with how people worship too fast. We've all gotten used to hiding worship of any god, good or not, and that habit takes time to break. If breaking it is a good idea at all."

to Andreu- "You're right that it's better to die good than to live evil, but it's even better to live good. If evil takes Cheliax and all the good clerics die fighting, there's no one to teach the next generation how to be good or to heal or make the fields grow. If evil takes Cheliax but there's a lot of good clerics hidden from them, they can keep things together until good comes back again."

"I also don't understand why it's harder to root out possibly-Evil cults that people know exist than possibly-Evil cults that people don't know exist."

She's going to lose because everything is full of Chaotic people and they hate sense. "Erastil's church has a hierarchy in Andoran," the Lictor says to Enric, in an attempt to appeal to even the horrible chaotic place having a sensible structure, "and in Absalom and Taldor. Each country has its own church of Erastil."

To Tetula "- It is difficult for clerics to remain hidden, especially if they wish to accumulate power. A cleric of Baphomet has few of his powers available if he wishes to keep his status as a cleric secret, and if he then attempts to act as a cleric of another god can be recognized by the church of that god as an imposter and so exposed and destroyed... if that god's church is prsent. Otherwise he must merely claim to be a cleric of some totally unknown Protean Lord - provided, that is, the Protean Lord's worship is legal."

"I don't see any reason why worship of Protean Lords shouldn't be legal." 

"I think we are basically agreed that there should be a published list of what churches are in good standing, but this committee is not actually about cults! It's about spreading benign gods throughout Cheliax."

Lluïsa doesn't see any reason why worship of Protean Lords exists. Why?

"A published list of churches in good standing sounds fine as long as worshipping somebody who is neither evil nor on the list isn't illegal. And you're right, promoting churches more topical. ...I wonder if we can get any of the archmages to make or fund the building of new churches."