"I can agree to surrender the demesne to you in three months' time, once it has sheltered my people."

"In exchange for helping keep the other spirits away," Amber stammers to Findekáno. "Instead of as a forfeit if we lose."

Some of those lesser spirits the ice elemental showed them were well within the "run away from" category. 

"All right. If you help us defend our claim, you can have the demesne in three months' time. I don't suppose the workings of the war we go to fight are of interest to you?"

It starts either shrinking or retreating, hard to tell which. "I'm willing to wait for it" per se isn't in its vocabulary, but it doesn't say no to this. Impressions of demanding a lesser being move out of its way, satisfaction at getting its due. Not very flattering, as yeses go.

No response to the war question. It lacks a frame of reference for what a war even looks like, let alone this one in particular.

You weren't expecting beings that powerful?

I was expecting powerful. Too powerful to easily deal with, even, I was thinking we'd rely on having some control over what the challenges are. I wasn't expecting that powerful.

That tower it mentioned, was that one of the Trees?

It did sound more literal than that earlier, but it's either that or they literally used to light the world with foliage.

Are elementals that powerful very uncommon in your world?

And the Globes, probably.

Uncommon is one way to put it. I had to hunt to find anything powerful enough for flight, and I fly with two spirits that we call moderate. I wish I had two of anything on that level. Or one.

What are the Globes? Never mind, it's probably not important right now. She resumes singing to the weather.

You can sing and osanwë. Unless it's too distracting? The Globes are how the Valar tried lighting the world before they tried the Trees.

And it didn't work, apparently. Same reason, or a different one?

Almost exactly the same. After a couple million years the Enemy knocked them over.

Might be a good thing that ice spirit wasn't interested in the war. It did seem to come out ahead from that.

It should know what Melkor is. I don't know how it'd feel about him. 

If we told it Melkor's the one the war's against and it cared enough to have an opinion, I wouldn't want to bet one way or the other on what that opinion is. Maybe there'll be something else that size that we can enlist.

I sort of figured Melkor made more enemies than friends. Bit of a jerk. Also had a history of aggressively pursuing the female Valar and Maiar, maybe if we get one of those we can broach the subject.

A jerk as well as evil. Not even trying for classy villainhood.

I don't think Others are Maiar; non-practitioners can talk to those. But if we happen to run into one, may as well ask.

If you're looking for classy villainhood I've heard his various lieutenants include some of the civil and conversational sort of murdering torturers.

I wouldn't say looking. The lot of them sound like they need a good tearing apart from the biggest spirit we can spare, but he could at least be polite about his evil.

Sorry. I shouldn't be so facetious about all this. Melkor: responsible for an awful lot of deaths and tearing apart this family in particular. Yeah.

It's okay, we all have a morbid sense of humor. To cope. One of the popular discussion topics in camp is in which order you'd kill the sons of Fëanor, if you got the chance. Doesn't mean anyone'd do it.

Oh, right, Artanis said she's going to kill Fëanáro and also said she might not; remind me to ask you about that when you're not in the middle of a ritual.

Is it likely to distract me? She's not going to do it. She'll ask Elwë, if Elwë is alive, and hopefully he'll have more sense. Fëanáro is also rather likely to get himself killed with no kinslaying required.

It is likely to distract you, apparently.

She plans to ask for help after the fact, unless this was just hypothetical like you mentioned. Hard to picture her telling me without it being common knowledge enough for you to already know.

She gave a speech about it. It's probably part of why Fëanáro decided to leave! But how were we going to stop her?

From speaking? Not easily. Convincing her and whatever percentage she speaks for not to do it, that's separately hard.

Is Fëanáro likely to get himself killed before we get there given that we're likely getting there faster than expected?

I'd say it's fifty-fifty.