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"I bet people a few hundred years ago were psychologically healthier in some ways - sure, they didn't have the internet or modern healthcare or easy travel or anything but if they wanted a baby fifteen springs in a row they could damn well have them, nothing would stop them."

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"And everything wasn't as crowded."

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"Yep. As many kids as they wanted and places for all of them to go."

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"Even if FTL's not possible, people might spend their life on a ship, to give their kids that."

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Nod nod.

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Sigh. "Maybe someday soon. - do you want kids, Klimati -"

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Klimati sighs. "I would but - couldn't really - I'll just chip in when I can with Isama's."

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"Makes it nearly impossible to date, too, not wanting kids, there's a people-who-don't-want-kids dating site but I didn't get anywhere."

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"Yeah, that sounds hard - I know a few people like that and they're very eccentric -"

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"Who?" asks Isama.

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"Uh, I know a girl with a principled objection to having children until depression has a reliable cure and a girl with a principled objection to having children until death is cured and a guy who finds the sounds babies make really really aversive and a negative utilitarian and three people who are mad about factory farming."

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"What's a negative utilitarian?" says Klimati.

"What does factory farming have to do with kids?" asks Isama.

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"They'll eat meat. A negative utilitarian is someone who thinks that ethics should be about minimizing suffering."

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"You could raise kids vegetarian, it's cheaper anyway," says Isama.

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"And having kids doesn't increase the number of people in the world anyway. I don't think they are being particularly reasonable."

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"Well, more for everybody else, I guess."

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"Yeah, no one really tries to talk people who don't want kids into it."

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"Evolution," says Isama. "No species that didn't want kids would survive the invention of birth control."

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"I suppose. And even before birth control you could just be careful in the spring. Do you suppose there are aliens -"

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"I hope so, that'd be really interesting," says Klimati earnestly.

"There probably are, but I don't know about nearby," says Isama.

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"Without FTL we'd probably never find them - and if there is FTL why haven't any of them found us - but it would be interesting. I'm curious if they'd have a caste system. Probably not."

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"No reason to expect aliens to work that much like us," Isama agrees.

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"And then I could get answers to all my theories about how things go without one."

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