"Without magic, yeah."

"What's Angband look like, how many are there and where are they -"

"Let's go in the yard so I have room for a nice big model."

Outside they go.

Angband, Kib's edition. Complete with inhabitants.

It's a big imposing fortress aboveground and much larger belowground. Around a million orcs. Three dozen humans, mostly in the same quarters, a few in separate dungeons, all of them young adults. 

Cam picks it apart, mapping as he goes.

Some stuff is magic and failed to come through, but most of it's there.

"There's presumably servants, I don't know if I conjure those inert or not at all -" He checks. Inert. "The illusions might be more of a problem. Can the Valar counter just those -"

Ambela asks.

Not in Angband.

Okay, well, the model will presumably not include illusions, and will include all the humans, so they should be able to figure that out in the field. The wizard step seems unnecessary since they don't have anyone who can see through the illusions the way they did with Azkaban; just a soul Elf and a fairy will do.

He's love to help dismantle an Angband.

The soul Arda Valar are not done doing the math on how to cancel a black hole with manually applied gravity. 

That's okay, the Arda in question is not going anywhere.

They might want to practice somewhere without people.

The Space Ardas are mostly uninhabited.

Can he make them a flat Arda (they'll handle the gravity?) They can do it but it'll take thousands of Years.

It will take him a couple weeks, no problem.

They retreat to work on math. Sanity's Estë sticks around to help; the other Sanity Valar are putting Singularity's Valinor back together and bringing the Singularity Valar up to speed (and one ducks into Godspring at Bright's request to give not just Cir's goldmage aunt but anyone in the family who wants it extended longevity.

Cir's extended family are delighted.

Death is such a terrible idea, they're really pleased that other worlds have come to their attention, does anyone need anything else while they're here?

Well, if they can do anything about anybody else's drawbacks that would also be swell.

They are working on that; it looks like it'll be really difficult, unfortunately. If there are white mages who want to sit for experiments with boosting their immune systems and improving their health, they can try that, but it'll be a long time before they understand humans and the local magic well enough to be completely certain what they do will help or even that it'll be reversible with no problems if it's not helpful. The soul Arda Aulë can make those memory necklaces faster than any Elf and plans to do a few thousand once a current pressing problem is solved; everything else they could try stuff if there's anyone willing to experiment and able to report the results (or who does not mind having their mind read).

Some people don't mind having their minds read. Dwindled bluemages are fairly incapable of considering the question but some of their attendants think they wouldn't have minded before either. Some whitemages who have already done summonses are interested in experiments.