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I still haven't forgiven You for not inviting Me to Your war.

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Whoever it was, they accomplished great Good!

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But it was Evil.

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Exactly!

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They really did a great deal of Good! It's a mystery how they still detect as Evil.

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My judgements are perfectly objective.

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Hey, Abadar?

I want to enter this into the evidence of trial no. 98237489(iixv), ongoing in Axis, Nakht vs. Church of Abadar (of Golarion, of Osirion).

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Let me see... A suit claiming unjust conviction. Of a man convicted and executed for murder fourteen years ago, in Sothis. The plaintiff claims that a priest of My church gave materially misleading evidence. The suit was put on hold at the plaintiff's request, pending further discovery, implied to be waiting for the priest to arrive in Axis.

That suit? What about it?

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Your priest told the court that, being detectably Chaotic Evil, he was "far more likely" to have done it than the other possible perpetrator, who was Lawful Neutral.

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Do you have to do this in public? We're busy with important matters, here.

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Alignments should not be allowed as character evidence in court.

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I am familiar with that argument. Such evidence is allowed by the laws of Osirion, on a balance of probabilities basis.

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I think that's a miscarriage of justice.

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I didn't write the laws of Osirion.

 
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And yet they reflect Your own prejudices, which I experience living in Axis. Hence My interest in this suit.

Will Your judge in Axis rule that Nakht was wrongfully convicted, and deserves reparations, if I show the testimony was wrong?

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If you can show that the character evidence did not support the weight of inference assigned to it, certainly. But the evidence establishing the propensity to murder as predicted by alignment, in the relevant population, is very well-founded.

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You've been measuring from the wrong population.

That man you've been past-watching? That's my cleric. And we just heard from the best authorities on the matter that he did great Good. 

Despite having an Evil alignment aura, which I have to tell you is extremely prejudicial to one's career. Unfairly so.

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Making someone Your cleric and then having them do Good is not valid evidence of what Chaotic Evil clerics do, only that Your clerics do whatever You tell them to.

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I knew You'd say that. Which is why I made it a fair experiment.

I didn't tell him to do Good. I didn't even tell him who I was, he still assumes he's Gorum's. The only thing he got from Me was spells, and the Evil part of his alignment aura.

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But now I sense him getting far enough towards Good that I can't keep him on. Or rather, He doesn't want to pay what it would cost to have a CG cleric, but He's not going to just admit that He can, now is He. Probably can't give him spells tomorrow, unless he murders some cute squirrels really quickly. So now I'm telling you.

I'll see you all in court.

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There is a brief pause as the gods process this.

 

Thank You, Norgorber! You did Good, and helped your cleric do Good! I knew there was Good in You, of course, and it is wonderful to see it in action!

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He's still Evil, and that means He does much more Evil than He does Good.

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He is making the argument, by analogy, that just as His cleric received an Evil alignment aura from Him through no fault of their own, and yet they were themselves Good, so too Norgorber has received an Evil alignment aura from Pharasma, and yet - He would claim - He is Himself actually Neutral or Good?

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I'm not saying anything about "actually being" Neutral or whatever. I'm just saying having an Evil aura is not nearly as predictive of behavior as You all thought.

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I state objective facts about alignments. I am not concerned with the inferences others make from that.

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