Yoda doesn't exactly understand the question. "Light Sith is Jedi, hmm? Dark Jedi is what some call the Sith, and those others who use the dark side."

"...no Sith a merely Fallen Jedi is, Master Yoda.  The distinct philosophy of the Sith proves such on its own merits.  The question I inquire upon, then, is thus; if it is possible for one who knows only a Jedi's teachings to fall to the Dark - why could one not take...the seeds, that planted in the darkest of places grew Sith philosophy as we know it - and reach nonetheless for the Light with them?"

"Freedom to choose for themselves, a Jedi has, but the wrong choice, many have made. A Sith has no choice. Some try to use both the light and the dark, to master both powers, but eternally in conflict, the two are. Tried to return to the light, some Sith have, and yet their addiction pulled them back into darkness."

...She's just going to give him a Look for a little while, before she can continue.

"The entire premise of this question is that there is a way of reckoning with the Force that seems to be distinct from the archetypal Sith's focus on the Dark Side.  Which means that if you are taking as your position in this discussion, that the philosophy of Sith-ness is impossible to separate from its Dark-ness, it is - important, to have something with which to back up your position.

"Not just -

"Blank incomprehension of my own.  That's not knowledge, that is ignorance, Master Yoda."

"What say the Sith of the Force, that is not about darkness?"

She has exactly the quote for that, actually.

"I can't say I've found much, but while I did have to tear out a few bits of obvious Darkness -

" 'The Force will change you.  It will transform you.  Some fear this change.  The teachings of the Jedi are focused on fighting and controlling this transformation.  That is why those who serve the light are limited in what they accomplish.  True power can come only to those who embrace the transformation.  There can be no compromise.  Those who try to walk the path of moderation will fail, dragged down by their own weakness.' "

"Where found you this?"

"...Why does that matter?  Though you can rest assured that the Temple is not exposing Sith philosophy to impressionable younglings; it wasn't just sitting around in the Archives.  Which I would hardly dare try to break into without direct instruction from the Force on the matter, which I haven't received.

"...Nor was it acquired from Dooku, if that is your concern; I have been obeying the Temple's requests that I not speak with him.  Despite the fact that I think it's not actually helping anyone that we don't talk to him...at all?  He really needs friends.  I swear I can feel the Serennian angst from all the way over here.

"Or if you mean to ask from what Sith this originated, I'm told that this was posited by a Darth Revan, in the periods of time when he wasn't instead a Knight Revan."

Sigh. "The transformation, that Revan spoke of... very different from the light, that is. The light changes you as well, but only for the better. Listen to what the Force wants, follow its path, and stronger, you will grow. But different, the sacrifice of the dark side is. Destructive is the dark side. Who you are, it rips away, and leaves only rage and fear."

"Weak and limited are the Jedi, say the Sith, because we refuse to hurt those around us. Focused on helping others is the light, and the Sith hope to gain power at their expense. Incompatible, they are."

"...And yet so many Jedi Initiates speak of the Agricorps with contempt.

"As if perhaps our largest single impact upon the galaxy is -

"Master Yoda, if the Force of compassion is strong within the Order, why was the Senate allowed to be so corrupt without even the slightest challenge for several hundred years?

"The change Revan meant was obviously Dark.  But I do not think that the Order as it is has been giving ourselves fully to the Light.  Even if his solution was bunk, I think his words as I've restated them hold some insight into a real problem.

"Let me tell you, Master Yoda, what it takes to be a farmer on Tatooine.

"Tatooine is an absolute suns-blasted hellpit, where to even have a hope of growing something useful you must first have extensive infrastructure of some sort in order to give your crops water.  Oh, there are a few native plants that do their best, don't get me wrong - but even those barely manage to propagate themselves, let alone produce anything worth the effort to digest.  The cultures that have actually lived their entire lives on the planet have turned to ranching as the only plausible source of food, and they were damn well right to; even the animals that chew cud barely make it worth their while.

"And yet the average Jedi in this Temple looks upon the people who bring life out of the desert and rain upon the sands with contempt.

"The people who have been struggling their whole lives to bring Light to the suns-scorched Darkness that is the way that Tatuin has been for tens of thousands of years, ever since the Force itself was turned against it in a catastrophe that our myths still speak of -

"Where is our vaunted compassion?  Where is it?  Why are there so few missions to screaming emergencies?  Why are we so passive as to wait for some Senate functionary to collate a report on the pain the Force yet weeps with?

"I say to you not that Revan had a working solution with his emphasis on the Dark Side and its refusal to consider that compassion and togetherness are strengths of their own - but I do say I think he correctly identified a big karking problem."

"And what solution propose you, hmm? Our source of income, the Senate is, and more important still: a dangerous enemy would they be. The Jedi have not opposed the Republic for many centuries, yes, for fight back, they would, and a war with the Republic, we do not need."

"How hope you to help Tatooine, and those other planets in need? The Service Corps do what they can, yes, but limited are we in our recruits. Not many can feel the Force, and harder still it would be to find them without the Senate."

"We help where we can. Enough, have we done? No. And yet to say we have failed does not bring success. No great discovery have the Sith made of the galaxy, nothing we knew not already, though with more fury may they say it. If our alliance with the Republic we tear apart, no one, does it help. Curious, it is, that reason and calculation, the Sith speak of, and yet so often does it lead them to the same path as anger and revenge."

"And furious are you too. Something must be done, say you, and say the Sith, and so many others. Easy is that to say. Far harder it is, to know what not to do. Problems, the Senate has, but to lash out against them... help, it would not."

...She shakes her head.  "No, Master Yoda, perhaps furious I am, but propose those actions I do not.  Yet, an alliance with the Republic this Order has not had since the Ruusan Reforms subordinated us to them, for entirely understandable reasons but with disastrous long-term effects that solved not even the intended problem of Jedi with armies by making of the Jedi Order an army.  And regardless, my argument is that proactive the Order must be in finding things it is uniquely equipped to solve.  In the Outer Rim, Jedi are mythical.  And that is a problem.  We say that guide us, the Force will, and yet our missions determined almost entirely by Coruscanti politics are.

"To lash out against the Senate think you I call for?  No.  Put our own compound in order we must, as an example unto others - one worth following."

Is she mocking him?

"Enough. Helping the galaxy as much as we can, we are. And as for you - tolerated, this disrespect will not be. Warn you, Master Windu did, not to read what the Sith wrote. If unable to follow our rules, you are, then taken away, your devices will be. Dismissed."

...No?  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and it's not like she's making of this a public spectacle.

"Are we, though.  You should think about that.  Because the greatest power of a Jedi is coordination, and yet - observe how empty stand the Temple's halls.  So few contacts we have with our sibling organizations in relief and recovery that I know not of one with which we regularly work.  We are gardeners without a field."

Yoda has nothing further to say.

That night, Yoda and Windu will discuss Kina's recent actions - with both agreeing some sort of consequences are needed, although Windu is somewhat less concerned about the disrespect than he is the possibility Kina will be so upset she runs away, straight into Dooku's grasp. Nevertheless, when Kina wakes up the next morning she will find that any attempt to access the HoloNet, or indeed make any connection with the outside world on her datapad, is blocked.

That, was a dumbass move.

Also, cracking it open and twiddling some of the bits around so that the Temple's holonet thinks it's a different device, and thus permitted to pass the firewalls, is insultingly simple when you can use the Force to do it.

This time when she walks up to Yoda it happens in public.

"No knowledge there is, but ignorance.  A wonderful start to my morning this is.  Perhaps won the battle you picked you have, but instantly forfeited stands philosophical conflict when force it is that is applied to secure victory.  Have a wonderful morning yourself, and rest assured that I have not a single thing in my day planner that would constitute any of the numerous mischiefs that would stand culturally justified on Tatooine, should it be a slaver's hand upon my collar.  Really, though, if believe you knowledge to be dangerous, then weld shut the stable door after the bantha fled, you have.  Knowledge is in any case best combatted by more knowledge. So do what you are supposed to, Master Yoda, and teach me, rather than blinding yourself.  I am quite willing to learn, though at the moment I must busy myself with meditation, in the way that works best for me, so that I do not do something more inadvisable than this."

She'll be in the workshops!

"Kina."

(The workshops clear out, for definitions of "clear out" that involve standing right outside the door within hearing distance. And then actually clear out, once Windu gives everyone his second-worst glare.)

"I told you. I specifically told you not to look into the Sith and you directly disobeyed me. I don't know if you think insulting Master Yoda's going to get you your HoloNet access back, but it won't. Frankly, I would have expected better from you."

She carefully finishes her weld.

"At no point, actually, did you do any such thing.  Discourage, yes.  Order, no.  I would have performed a different calculus had this matter been an order.  And I am quite aware that insulting - for some value thereof - Master Yoda is not going to change Temple policy, as stupid as it is in this case - but perhaps it will cause him to remove his gimmer stick from his rectal cavity."  Her voice is tightly constrained, her pronunciation clipped and sharp.  "He would neither elucidate me upon any breaking flaw in my argument, nor explain his own to any significant degree.  Debate in bad faith, that is.  And when no good response he had, he turned to force.  Do you see the problem here?"

"The problem is that you read shit by Darth Revan, and that more generally that you can't seem to pay attention to what we tell you! Do you not understand that this gets people hurt? Have you even considered that we have reasons for what we do - clearly you don't agree with them, but if you can't even show us the basic respect expected from a Padawan, then what's the point in us even trying to explain things to you?"

"If I wasn't paying attention to what you told me you would not have known I was looking into this at all.

"But I face the looming specter of a war over the Force itself and I need to arm myself with the understanding necessary to defeat the enemy of flourishing that is suffering and the Darkness!  This isn't out of some morbid fascination with the Darkness - not a lust for its self-defeating power - It's going to try to kill me, because I reject it utterly - and I refuse to do anything less than go down swinging when it tries!

"Not to mention that right now, the Force has three sides as it's personified, and two philosophies.  Does that seem balanced?"

"I think one of them is standing for balance, the - no, I'm not arguing this part right now, the point is I told you something was stupid and dangerous and you did it anyway. Can you understand how this is a bad idea in general, separately from the specific details of the thing you did?"