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"They were intended to coexist peacefully with the extant races. That's why the decedent chose mice."

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"That was a careless choice, which could have been prevented by researching mouse behavior in advance, and could have been revisited after the decedent became aware of his own mice injuring and killing each other."

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"I didn't have space to keep them properly!"

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"Careless cruelty."

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"The decedent removed the aggressors from the breeding population. He saw the conditions he kept the mice in as a necessary sacrifice. He was neither careless nor sadistic."

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"However we categorize the mice, as they exist and as the decedent intended them to become, his behavior of considering some of them unimportant and expendable for the sake of the others is Evil."

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"That is a trade that people of all alignments may make."

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"I said he considered them 'unimportant'. He went beyond the necessity of a trade to considering some of his mice to be unworthy of care."

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"Let's hold off on slogging through his minute-to-minute motivations unless that becomes necessary for Leudorfell. And also wait on a 'myriad daily actions' ruling. He intended to cause broad changes to society, I quote: 'a cantrip-mouse in every home, a healer-mouse in every town'. At the very least, that would cause a population boom. Chaos."

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So is Elysium trying to get him ruled Chaotic on the hopes that Axis and Hell will then stop trying, leaving Good with two advocates (one, Nirvana, presumably very experienced) against Evil with one (a random demon who thought this sounded fun), and no Neutral? Even if that works it's only a small expected effect on the likely verdict (and the demon seems pretty well-prepared), and if the decedent is ruled Lawful that leaves a stronger imbalance for Evil.

"I concur, let's focus on the Law/Chaos of that particular act for now. He did not intend to disrupt any systems, so we can only speculate on the likely results. Golarion has many species already, adding one more isn't a big deal. We could draw analogy with other acts of establishing trade." She can't recall any of the case law...

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Axis can!

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"Those analogies break down because mice require much less food than most sentient species and reproduce faster."

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"The mice he planned to breed, with the average Intelligence and lifespan needed to have a first-circle wizard in every town, would disrupt the balance of power."

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"Not necessarily." Coordinating to overthrow a lord is hard for any mortal species and thank Marra for the Intelligence that let her remember the decedent is from Andoran before she said that aloud.

"It's possible to keep a wizard enslaved. See: Cheliax. That would avoid disruption of existing social structures."

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"That's enough factual speculation to establish the hypothetical consequences of this act to be of unclear systemic alignment, thank you. Are there any further legal arguments?"

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"The decedent obeyed all laws relevant to his project. In observation of the Bellis prohibition on bringing 'vermin' into the city proper, he camped in The Pit, at personal inconvenience, loss of custom, and danger."

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"That's a 'myriad daily actions' argument."

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"Yes. I do not hold Axis to be out of order, but unless there are other legal arguments about the systemic alignment of the decedent's project, considered as having singular import, let's move on to its moral alignment."

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"Forcing a slave to bear children is Evil, as is enslaving those children. However we decide the status of the mice as they are now, at some point they would have unambiguously been more than just farm animals."

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"This slavery stuff is nuts! I just wanted to improve people's lives, and I wanted the mice to be happy too!"

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"Shh."

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"And yet he did not take care of them as if he saw them as more than playthings, casting doubt on all of his supposedly-noble intentions."

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"What, so my good intentions make it worse for me? That makes total sense, tentacle dude."

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"Mortals are assumed not to be legible unless proven so, Abyss vs Freeman 0831. By correlating feelings and actions, we gain information about the feelings."

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"I advise you not to argue without training."

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