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and he tells me i am his own
yves gets yeerked
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He (none of his names are real, he was going by Yves most recently but it hasn't escaped him that that or the hair or the fact that he's five foot two has people ma'aming him and also that name was chosen by demons from Hell to cause problems) thinks he's probably gotten somewhere Hell won't specifically be looking for him. Now he just needs to duck into some building where no one will see him - one of these will surely do - or maybe they won't, he's never been so intensely aware before that every single thing he thinks he knows he was taught by demons to make him better at doing evil and very nearly everything he has ever seen was specifically crafted to trick him into doing evil. Or maybe that's completely wrong! Who knows! He's also never been so intensely aware before that he's a spectacularly horrible judge of character who absolutely cannot tell whether everything he sees is designed to trick him into doing evil!

But his body has been changed since he died (or maybe none of his memories really happened! why stop at three existential crises when he could collect them all!) and that means there is some way to suppress his healing and he will find it and he will find some properly awful way to carve it into his flesh that he is done trying to - trying to do things in full generality, trying to understand the world, trying to -

- That building over there seems empty, though of course he doesn't know anything. He breaks in.

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The building continues to look empty for the first little while. It's dark inside, and really dusty.

When he sneezes, there's a flurry of movement in the shadows, and a flare of blinding light, and then he's out.

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Yep. Not for as long as expected but much longer than they actually need.

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When he wakes up, his eyes move, but he isn't doing it. He sits up, but he isn't doing that either.

There's a hissing screeching nightmare noise and then his own lips say, "Who said that? I can't see in the dark from in here." More screeching. "No sir, no one likely to look for him." Screeching. "Understood, sir. I believe I'm able to make it on foot if it's not convenient to give me a ride at this time." Screeching. "Of course, sir, thank you."

He stands up. He walks, eyes flicking around as though to get hints from the bits of light here and there, out to the exit and back into the open fields that surrounded the apparently not very abandoned building.

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He wonders why he's reflexively doing that and then he gets suspicious of the fact that that's not something he would do reflexively and even if he would he would still have stopped immediately on wondering about it and - no he can't shut up, no he can't just scream instead, no he can't raise a hand - it takes a while after that for him to think anything other than oh fuck oh no over and over.

He's been speaking modern English for a while, but his most comfortable language is Latin, and it's not even his first. He's got Old English, Old French, Classical Chinese, Cantonese, Japanese, Classic Maya - more than that, actually, so many languages he's lost count, most of them too rusty to jump back into without spending a while listening to someone else - and he hates it, hates that he can interface with the world in so many ways and all of them were taught to him by demons.

That's the most notable thing about him, is that either he's delusional or he died centuries ago during a plague epidemic, and since then he's been in Hell most of the time. They told him it was Purgatory, that he'd learn better and then go to Heaven, that while he was there maybe he could help them help others, too, for values of "help" that included "break their wills because they need to stop being so sinful" - he doesn't want to think about it and also he doesn't think he can ever forget, not the time he took the hand of someone he'd up till then called a friend and started breaking their fingers, not the times he ordered someone else to drag someone off out of his sight while he knew what was happening and relaxed -

- It's a lot but it's not definitely centuries. If it is centuries, then there are stretches of years eaten by sleep deprivation or blurred by sheer monotony. It's more than there really ought to be at his apparent age, anyway. And some of it's testable; he thinks he's not really alive, will never age, doesn't need food (he had that driven home to him particularly humiliatingly), heals from literally everything and often in under a day although there's some kind of extremely painful workaround for that (he didn't start out male, that was a reward or maybe a reminder of what he's done, one or the other).

It's a very good healing factor but it doesn't keep him healthy, he's weak and miserable and exhausted and fuzzy-headed and being stunned was the closest he's gotten to sleep in months. They dolled him up a bit when they sent him to Earth (to save people, they said, but he's pretty sure he's been damning them, actually) to make him look more vaguely angelic than obviously damned, but that's only the magic of personal grooming. He has long since forgotten that living people who feel this way have a tendency to fall asleep as soon as they're horizontal.

Someone will, actually, look for him, but not today, and not someone who'd call the police, and anyway maybe he's delusional and they won't. It's only been about a day since he decided to go to ground on Earth and hope Hell couldn't track him down. They weren't even going to check in for days yet.

Though when he manages to unstick his thoughts from sheer horror he supposes that actually they can just possess him, so that's fucking delightful, and it's also baffling but he's in no shape to think about why it's baffling. The most salient thing about it, at the moment, is that he can give up.

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Yup. He can totally give up. He doesn't have to exercise any volition at all in order to continue walking till reaching the road and then keep going from there for a couple miles, his mouth trying out some of the languages while his feet take step after step.

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It's - miserable, really, that there's nothing he can do, but at least maybe their incentives line up so they want his body really healthy and maybe that means not torturing him.

He thinks, for the first time and surprising himself even though after everything else it shouldn't be a surprise, You know what, I think I hate you. He doesn't even strongly expect to be heard.

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<Yeah, I think that's pretty common with human hosts,> replies a nonvoice.

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Why can they read minds on top of everything else! He thought they couldn't do that! But as established he is a complete idiot!

He keeps trying to move, even though he's pretty clear on that not working, because it's such a weird experience and he keeps expecting that whatever he's doing is something he's doing, and it seems like a good idea to get used to the way things are as fast as possible.

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<I'm not a demon or anything, I'm a Yeerk. We're space aliens.>

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He kind of effortfully tries to consider the likelihood of that. He's never seen one in Hell but they seem to be invisible and maybe they're best tortured with systematically different infrastructure and have their own area, or maybe he saw them and forgot, and at any rate maybe they don't even sin, who knows, he sure doesn't. It would be so confusing if demons could do this and not confusing at all if they couldn't, but he's very stupid so why should it matter if he's confused?

Most importantly they clearly aren't trying to trick him, because whoever this is doesn't need to, so - that's good. If they're not demons and they might never have committed any sins then actually that's great, he's sorry to have said he hates them, probably they're fine.

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<I actually have no idea if this thing happens to us when we die. Or if it even happened to you. But the healing thing seems real so you're probably not totally delusional.>

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He deliberately suppresses all the things he might otherwise think of to say to that since, in fact, they are not optimized for keeping people out of Hell after all. Maybe listening to his thoughts is a dangerous idea considering how much he as a person has been optimized for malevolent ends, but he doesn't quite manage to actually suggest ignoring him because that would be crushingly lonely.

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<I know, right, being alone in your head is awful. I'd heard humans weren't like that but it's neat that you are!>

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<External people are also good company, maybe that's the thing you heard? Probably better in some ways because I'm not sure Satan himself deserves to hear all my thoughts.>

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<Oh, it's not so bad. It does look like you had a very rough time but I'm not planning to get you into anything too awful going forward if I can avoid it.>

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Aww, that's nice. And there's not really any point in doubting it since there's not really anything he could do if he knew it wasn't true, though he seems to be kind of quietly doubting it anyway just because at this point he doubts the existence of gravity.

<Thank you. ...What are you going to do?>

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<Well, we're kind of at war, but if I don't tell anybody you've got a magic healing factor I bet they'll let me keep you and won't be especially likely to put me in a combat position. Humans aren't best for that anyway.>

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He's pretty sure wars are bad because they kill people and killing people is bad because then some of them go to Hell. Or maybe that's fine, as established he can't tell right from wrong. Probably it would be silly at best to try to second-guess their choices here when he knows absolutely nothing.

<...I hope you figure out whether you go to Hell when you die and how to avoid it.>

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<I have no idea how I'd find that out, honestly.> How did his host even get here?

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Seems like demons can just appear on Earth? Probably not casually all the time, nothing looks like it would look if they could do it all the time, but they can do it at all and they can take passengers if, for example, they want to make someone else run their errands for them.

He got here as in this city by walking and also taking a bus.

He thinks maybe it's important not to give up on figuring out something that important? Or maybe he's completely wrong. No one should take his advice, it'll only make everything worse.

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Well, how is the demon he's running errands for supposed to find him?

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He was supposed to be in a specific area but maybe that was actually completely unnecessary, he was figuring he'd be able to tell if it was actually necessary based on whether he successfully hid or not. He was thinking of changing clothes and doing something different to his hair and maybe some horrific facial scarring would make him harder to recognize...? But maybe none of that would matter. In hindsight they probably wanted him not to be able to derive anything useful about their capabilities.

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Does he have any money on him in his own right literally at all?

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He has a blade and twine and some wire and a couple of tools from a craft store tucked away in pockets and $1.73 that wasn't given to him by demons and he does not have or need a house or food or water. He has shoes so he feels pretty rich although they should trade them for different shoes that don't come from demons, unless maybe whoever has them next will have problems, he has no idea whether there is actually any problem with them.

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$1.73 will get them a bus ticket next time a bus passes by.

Once they are in a more populated area and can find an ATM they can get a few hundred and go to the nearest thrift store for a replacement outfit and shoes.

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<Do you think if I have taste in clothing it's probably somehow evil enough that you shouldn't care?>

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<I can't see how, really. You want to pick stuff? I've never worn clothes before.>

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<I haven't picked clothes for this society before but I have worn clothes before. I hate wearing white, let's try green or blue or orange. I've seen people roll up their cuffs so it's fine if we get pants that are too long and if they won't stay rolled up we can hem them. Or maybe I'm wrong, did anyone with better information maybe at any point tell you anything.>

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<I have some briefing but they were expecting human hosts to be better oriented to the situation than you are. We'll figure it out.> He finds blue jeans and a green shirt and some flip-flops that have some orange on them though they are mostly black, and they fit tolerably, and they can be worn out once they are purchased, with the things they came in with left in the dressing room unceremoniously.

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This is the best thing that's happened to him in centuries and probably in the top ten things that have ever happened to him.

<We should get a haircut, I think this style is used in iconography of Jesus but otherwise it's kind of unusual locally, or maybe I'm totally wrong about that but I think we should still change more things just in case - not sure if we should also stop shaving, it gets prickly - on the other hand maybe they expect that I'll think that so maybe we specifically shouldn't, or maybe you should pick something at random.>

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<Yeah, looking around I don't see a lot of other male humans with long hair.> Walk walk walk. There's a barbershop. In they go. "Just hack it all off, I'm sick of it being like this," he tells the barber, when they get a chair. There are lollipops and he takes one of those. Mmmmmmm.

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<Um! We don't need food, we can save it for other people - I'm sorry - I'm sorry - > He's trying very hard not to remember something and not otherwise thinking very well.

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<They're free and even if they weren't I got plenty of money out of the ATM. This way the guy won't expect us to talk to him. Besides, what's the point of having a host with tastebuds if I don't taste anything?>

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That's probably right since the person who had the idea wasn't thoroughly and comprehensively corrupted and made as bad as possible. He apologizes and then apologizes again for good measure, and it's not entirely clear even to him whether he means anything by it or if it's just a reflex.

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The Yeerk ignores him and enjoys the lollipop and gives the barber a nod and a hefty tip after his hair has been cut down to a nice shaggy-layers situation that doesn't come close to brushing his shirt collar. Onward!

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Onward, apparently. This really sucks and his judgment is terrible so he probably only feels bad because he's a terrible person and deeply mistaken about right and wrong, only that's not reassuring at all because it means either they're going to do bad things and hurt people or he's going to be miserable all the time. Or conceivably both.

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Next the Yeerk is going to find a public library and go on the internet in it and send an email through a provider called Sharemail.

Sub-Visser, this is Atsinni 3094 reporting supplementary to the presumable report you will have had from Ishkan 8015. A vagrant human entered the work site and was presently stunned and I have been given him as a host. The human does not presently have his own means of support and I would like to requisition an apartment and sinecure until a permanent assignment is found for me. CCing Nansta 1223 to this end. I will write again from a new phone once I have acquired one.
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He tries to pay attention to that to distract himself from the horror of the lollipop but then that results in him knowing Atsinni 3094's name, which is terrible, what if he doesn't like that name, for that matter what if at some point he wants to use a name for his prisoner?

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<I mean I'll probably have to call you something at some point to get you fake papers and whatever with a human name on them but I don't care what it is. My name's fine.>

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<...Okay. If you want.>

And now he's back to feeling bad about the lollipop. Surely there's something else to think about but nothing seems as salient. He's trying not to think about why that is, it's humiliating and horrible and he'd just as soon not share it. Surely there's something else to think about but nothing's coming easily to mind.

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When the email is sent they are going to go buy a phone. Without any guidance from his host the Yeerk is going to put his name into the phone as Stan Peters and then text his superior again so he'll have the number. Then while waiting for a reply he's going to play Bejeweled.

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Stan Peters is fine. Bejeweled is nice. It seems like it'd be fun to play but it's also nice to just watch, and anyway it's very distracting. He'd ask for a turn but why would Atsinni 3094 let him do anything ever.

<Do you do this a lot?>

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<What, Bejeweled? No, I've never tried it! All this human stuff is new to me.>

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<What did you do before?>

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<Swam around. Read. Not like with eyeballs, we don't have those.>

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<Swimming sounds interesting. I can't remember if I've done it. Not recently.> What is even the point of not having eyeballs if people make you read things anyway. He doesn't especially intend that thought as part of the conversation but it's not like he can hide it. He had his eyes sewn shut for a while and honestly it was fine but that's because it gave him a break from things that were even worse.

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<Seeing things is great, if you ask me. They have colors!!>

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<Colors are nice!> All senses are nice when you can control what you perceive with them and not otherwise. Or maybe not, he wouldn't really know. <I like natural landscapes a lot, I missed them while I was... you know.> Or maybe he didn't, why would he remember anything correctly.

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<Aww.> He will switch the default phone wallpaper to a landscape one, they have some nice generic landscapes on the thing. Eventually he gets a text back and summons a taxi to take them to their new apartment in a building where they've got the landlord.

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That's so unfathomably kind!

He has actually seen the insides of some modern residences, but his standards were mostly set by a medieval village and then Hell. He'll probably think the apartment is amazing but he does know enough to expect to find it amazing. Sort of. With all of the caveats that apply every single time he thinks anything.

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The place has a beige sofa and a queensize bed and a square dining table with four cheap chairs and some remarkably bent blinds. Once Atsinni has assessed this he plops down on the sofa, feet up, and creates an Amazon account and siphons a few grand out of the mysterious money fountain of the Yeerks and orders sheets and soap and a set of basic pots and pans and stuff like that, and then plays some more Bejeweled until their feet don't hurt any more, and then goes grocery shopping.

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The apartment is amazing. Bejeweled is great.

If he thought it was worth making decisions at all he would beg Atsinni not to get them food that could otherwise go to starving people who might die and go to Hell and that will taste like guilt and worthlessness anyway. Well, it's... not like the vast majority of his existence hasn't involved being regularly subjected to unpleasant experiences... but couldn't Atsinni have been really unreasonably enamored of something less miserable, like being boiled alive.

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<If you want to get me ordered out of you so they can dissect you to figure out how you don't need to eat... well, tough luck, because I don't, but I don't think you do either. Besides, it won't taste like guilt and worthlessness to ME.>

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<I don't care if they dissect me. I didn't mean to say anything, I'm sorry, I haven't really worried about my thoughts bothering people very much before but I think what you're bothered by is all the misery and I've already been very motivated for a very long time to figure out some way to stop being miserable and I don't really expect to suddenly figure it out this decade.>

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<I mean the misery is whatever, I don't rank high enough to get a consensual host, but the specifically pitching a fit about eating food is weird.>

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<I'm sure it would be weird for someone who needed it.>

They went to such lengths to drive home to him that he absolutely didn't, and that not instantly realizing he could just fast indefinitely made him a disgusting sinner. Maybe there's some secret reason why actually that was an example of them making him a worse person, but even if that's true, there's a difference between agreeing that yep he's so thoroughly corrupted no one should care what he wants, and actually ceasing to have feelings.

Maybe he can try to stop having thoughts or noticing things entirely? That's an underexplored option since it would just get him punished at home before he came here.

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<If you wanna just dissociate suit yourself, I guess. I should ask Enstat for advice except I'll have to make it sound like you're traumatized about something besides food since that doesn't make sense. Sex or something, are you traumatized about that?>

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<Um. I.> Now he's trying to stop having opinions or preferences about sex and also trying to figure out what other preferences he needs to stop having. Maybe all preferences in full generality? He literally can't do anything, and he is still somehow managing to do something wrong. <I'm sorry.>

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<Wow, chill. I'm just trying to figure out how we can eat like a normal person without this being somehow the worst thing about having a Yeerk for you.> He is continuing to grocery shop while they have this conversation. He wants four kinds of breakfast cereal, and a box of chocolate fudge, and a bag of potato chips, and a microwaveable vegan pesto tortellini thing, and both strawberry and mint chocolate chip ice creams, and a pile of deli turkey and another pile of sliced cheese, and everything listed on this package of gnocchi's recipe for One Pan Creamy Gnocchi With Artichokes, which takes them through the spice aisle.

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<...I appreciate that you care about that.>

Maybe he should be coming at it from the direction of suggesting less unappealing foods but as established all his decisions are bad and he has been pessimized. Also he doesn't even know what some of these things are.

Also, it occurs to him that tonight he might not really need to sleep, it'll take longer than that for they-never-told-him-what-drug-it-is to finish wearing off, but in a few nights they're going to have a somewhat similar problem. He can go without sleep indefinitely and cannot function indefinitely without sleep or drugs, and he hasn't been allowed - he's caught little naps sometimes when they overestimated how painful something was and left him somewhere but in so doing he's basically trained himself not to even try at any other time - or maybe since sleep happens in private and isn't entertaining and he doesn't ever need to be functional again it's fine.

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<Well, I sure hope you're not so insomniac that I can't walk us in a straight line this time next week but we'll give it a whirl, I guess. Should help that I don't have to let you run the autonomics. I was going to sleep on the couch tonight since the bed doesn't have sheets yet.>

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<Run the autonomics?>

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<Like your heart rate and whether your... hands... sweat... or whatever. If you were in charge of that your pulse would be spiking constantly, it'd be miserable. Maybe it'll even help you calm down if you don't get the feedback response any more.>

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<...Oh, that explains it, I guess. Can you make me sleep that way - you shouldn't, though, I'd have nightmares, you probably don't want to watch - >

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<You know, I'm not actually sure if I'll see your dreams or not, that's a good question. I will certainly be trying to make you sleep that way but anyone's guess if it'll work.> Quart of milk and a loaf of bread and a quartet of bananas and they can check out. With... all these things from the checkout aisle. A Snickers and a pack of gum and a thing of tictacs and a weird strawberry fruit leather thing.

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The strawberry fruit leather thing almost seems appealing. If he were sure it was a good idea, and sure his own certainty meant anything, and in control of the experience, and only having a strawberry fruit leather thing. So, not really.

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<Tell you what, this is good for like two years, I won't eat it till you wanna in case that helps. I can let you chew without letting you try to call the cops, pretty sure.>

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<I don't see why I would call the cops.> Also why would that even help, when there's this entire cartful of stuff and he isn't confident it's a good idea. But what would the cops even do, for an exorcism you need a priest, and also why would you exorcise a nice non-demon from someone terrible. Maybe it's actually a perfectly reasonable idea and he just can't understand why.

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<Oh, yeah, the cops wouldn't help at all but it'd get me in trouble for making a scene.> He pays and out they go.

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Ugh, how did he manage to go straight from "it's right to endure all this suffering because the angels say so" to "since they were demons all along it's right to endure all this suffering", he had sort of hoped that not having every aspect of his life optimized for making him and everyone else miserable would be more different. As established he doesn't know anything, but it feels so terribly pointless. Which is definitely because he just doesn't understand anything. Whatever, what does it even matter to him what Atsinni does with Atsinni's body, who is he to have opinions about that.

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And home they go with all these groceries, and Atsinni puts them away and takes a rinse-only air-dry shower in the absence of relevant accessories and then changes into a fresh thrift store outfit to sleep on the couch in.

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He tries very hard not to have opinions about any of it and eventually his internal experience is of being three feet away thinking about which shapes tesselate.

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Then probably they will be able to get to sleep eventually.

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He dreams he's been caught and a demon is dissecting him to remove all his muscles to feed to a lion. (He has very little idea what lions look like. This one has scales.)

Normally, insofar as there's a normal for something that happens so rarely, he would wake up disoriented and try to get back to work before even parsing where he was.

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This time he is not controlling the autonomics so he's going to just stay asleep.

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He has a wide variety of additional nightmares and one non-nightmare about Atsinni's friends possessing all the demons and taking them clothes shopping.

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When they wake up in the morning Atsinni gets up and stretches all the sofa-sleeping kinks out. <Turns out I don't get your dreams except insofar as you remember 'em, which isn't much.>

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<Arguably neither do I, I guess. I don't think I can remember ever sleeping that restfully before.> It'd be a good time to try to mull things over, given how many things he needs to rethink and how much sharper his mind feels, but he doesn't really feel like doing that for... at least not for this audience, and he could also unpack that but it'd probably be rude.

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Atsinni doesn't comment on that, just sets about fixing breakfast, humming tunelessly in the process.

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<You know, you could give things away to different beggars on different days in different places, maybe you wouldn't get caught.>

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<No way, pal. You can be three feet to the left the whole time if you want but I am having One Pan Creamy Gnocchi With Artichokes.>

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<You're not - > He thinks better of saying anything but that has basically no impact since it's obvious what he was going to say. It was going to be you're not thinking about them at all.

Because it makes sense, of course, that no one should think about what he wants, his desires were optimized malevolently. And it makes sense, too, that he wouldn't be right about whether and when and what to give to the poor, and so there's no specific decision Atsinni could make that he could possibly know enough to judge. But Atsinni explains himself enough that never having mentioned anyone but the two of them or someone threatening them stands out.

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<D'you want me to like, find a nice charity, drop a few grand on them? Couple times a week? Diddling human banks is easy, they've got everything on computers but don't know how to make that work right yet, nobody scary'll care.>

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What, he's supposed to make decisions now? But he's terrible at -

- fine, Atsinni has strictly more information on literally everything including whether he should make decisions, Atsinni doesn't seem to think that's an obviously stupid idea, so, considerations - is stealing from banks wrong, well, literally everything he knows about morality is suspect and should be thrown out, he really doesn't know what the answer is, just that the right question involves the impact on other people - mostly the thing to do is keep them from going to Hell, and he... should disregard everything he thinks he knows about how people end up there, maybe excepting things he thinks he remembers very vaguely from a very long time ago, which he should instead disregard for being vague memories from a very long time ago.

<I guess if the bankers and their families will starve, then no, unless more people will starve otherwise; and if it's more of a thing where they show off that they have twice as much gold jewelry as some other banker then yes. I think. I'm not sure, I mean, you know more than I do but if it's - if it'd be a good thing to do and you're asking me if I want you to do a good thing then yes and if it's a trick question and it'd be a terrible thing to do then no? I think?>

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<I don't know what lifestyle bankers live and I don't wanna do a ton of research about it.> Gnocchi goes in the pan they got from Amazon, and sizzles. Stir stir.

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He's not at all confident about whether they should give to charity, whether it actually depends on bankers' lifestyles, or whether it'd be a good use of time to try to become confident about any of that. He not-very-confidently expects Atsinni is a much better person than him.

But he's pretty sure Atsinni decided not to do that research because he doesn't care, not because there's a better thing to do with that time or because Atsinni is actually confident that what they should do doesn't really depend on the answer. He's not judging, exactly. For all he knows Atsinni might be doing the best possible things for everyone in the world. It's not even something that bothers him very much on the scale of things that bother him.

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<I don't think I am doing the best possible things for everyone in the world by accident and I'm certainly not doing it on purpose.>

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See, he was right, he's not a maximally bad judge of character, you can tell because he was right -

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- but why did he have to be right about that.

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<Well, I don't think anyone is actually doing that. Sounds fake.>

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He wouldn't know. If there were ever any people like that he doesn't recall meeting them, but then, you wouldn't meet them in Hell, would you, and he doesn't have a very good memory either. He doesn't really understand why anyone wouldn't want to try, but as established he is a total idiot and doesn't understand anything.

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<I dunno, why would I want to try? It turns out actually I want to eat food and be safe and have eyes.>

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It sort of feels like the thing to say to that is so do they but in fact he's against food and indifferent to eyes and can't bring himself to feel like safety is real or could matter, so maybe empathy just doesn't work, who knows. It's just -

- this isn't trustworthy, it's been too long, but he thinks maybe he remembers being okay, some summer a long time ago, and that'll probably never happen again, for him, and he doesn't think he can stop having experiences, and it feels better to have something to get up for, something he can tell himself he's succeeding at - 

- only that intuition might be one he formed when the only mercy was that which was absolutely necessary to let him keep functioning at all, and so having some motivation to keep going seemed very important, because -

- the next thing doesn't come in the vague jumble of concepts and scattered words and images he normally thinks in, and isn't voluntary, and isn't meant as communication. It's just a memory of the worst they ever did, vivid and embodied enough it feels more like rolling back time than like remembering.

He was going somewhere with that but not anymore.

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Well, reportedly some hosts just sort of scream epithets at you in their heads all day, and it's kind of a tossup which is preferable - not having tried the epithets thing, admittedly - and the healing factor pushes in favor of keeping this one.

Garlic goes in pan. And artichokes. Wow, garlic smells amazing.

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It does smell amazing. Not exactly appetizing but it feels homey and inviting and that's sort of helpful for being in the present moment, which also sucks but notably less.

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When the gnocchi is done they are going to eat solidly half of it for breakfast, YUM, and put the rest of it in the fridge for later. Then send more emails about the job expectation situation. Atsinni reports that his host is "23" and in good physical health and probably about 90th percentile cooperative as a stab at a guess and speaks a few languages but has no other special skills. Then he pirates half a gigabyte of random music onto the phone - the Yeerk apartment building has secretly good wifi - and starts dancing around the apartment to random tunes while unpacking delivered packages and putting sheets on the bed and towels in the bathroom and so on.

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Atsinni kind of... isn't that great, as a person, and is doing things that make other people miserable out of a total lack of concern for their welfare.

Once he settles that in his mind he actually mentally files the gnocchi as torture instead of kind of ironically doing that, and - it's not the least horrible torture he has ever experienced, but it's definitely much less bad than average. He would really rather zero torture, and to be used by someone who does good things instead of bad things, but he'll settle for markedly-less-bad-than-usual torture and being used by someone who isn't literally omnimalevolent. He keeps repeating to himself that this is an improvement and he's glad to be here, as though maybe it'll feel true the thirtieth time.

...He manages to notice very distantly that maybe if he had food preferences gnocchi would be better than lollipops.

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<Dude, I'm not trying to torture you! Normal humans are not tortured by eating gnocchi. It's just impossible for me to eat gnocchi without help. Yeerks can't eat, we absorb radiation.>

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And that is a much more sympathetic motive than omnimalevolence and that is why he is repeating to himself that he's glad to be here instead of repeating The Song That Never Ends. Whoops, now it's stuck in his head and he's doing that after all.

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Atsinni doesn't dignify this with a response.

The reply comes back that they're going to be assigned an undercover security position at a Pool; it'll consist of loitering around a mall, on-call to come by if anything dodgy is up, keeping an eye on things in general in case they are the first to see something dodgy and need to tell everyone. Lots of walking, OK to shop and eat at the food court and whatever during the day as long as they don't make themselves excessively obvious regulars to anybody there. Standard issue fanny-pack-looking-thing that is actually a dracon beam holster will arrive at their address that evening. He'll report to Odshen "Sal Jenkins" 709, who manages the Nordstrom that conceals the entrance to the Pool, but she has a lot on her plate and he shouldn't bother her directly for anything that isn't an obvious crisis unless he gets a second opinion from a co-worker. Shift schedule is thus.

Atsinni gives an acknowledgement and then plays Bejeweled.

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At least Bejeweled doesn't suck.

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They are having all four kinds of cereal for lunch.

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Cereal is terrible. Even by the standards of foods.

It feels like some kind of additional problem that Atsinni doesn't like him being miserable about that, and can't get away from it, and... constantly hurting Atsinni does not make him happy. But he doesn't have to care. His ambitions have already, without him quite ever explicitly noticing it, shrunk from destroying Hell to being tolerable company, and they can shrink further, they can wither and die entirely.

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<Aww, you're not so bad. Way better than nothing. It's just nice having company even if you're weird about food.>

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There was a time (actually almost the entire time he's existed) when he would have been ecstatic to be called "not so bad". Between regretting everything else he can remember being praised for and not being sure he wants to want things anymore, it's sort of bittersweet now. But it's still nice.

<Thank you, I'm glad. Let me know if there's anything you want. Maybe. I don't know if I'll do it or just start panicking about how to figure out whether I should do anything.>

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<Yeah, I think you've got some things to process, but no big deal, it's not going to interfere with anything except trying to be nice to you.>

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He's not really sure what to make of that; the idea of someone having being nice to him as a goal is hard to engage with.

<I'm glad it's no big deal.>

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<Lots of hosts are actively trying to be inconvenient and this basically doesn't work at all!>

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Why bother. Well, maybe if you really resent all of the... stuff...

Yeah, that's maybe also something he shouldn't think about. It's annoyingly hard not to think about all sorts of interesting and important things when he's recently slept and eaten. Well, there's always... math? He kind of wants to understand why the quadratic formula is what it is, that seems like a reasonable default thing to try to fill his thoughts with. If he'd been any good at algebra he might've caught on to being in Hell centuries ago - well, there are a lot of things that could have helped if he'd been any good at them but this one is interesting and not fraught to think about right now.

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Oh good. Maybe Atsinni will give him math problems when he's having issues in the future.

They have an afternoon to kill, which Atsinni fills with some more shopping to make their place a little less boring - including a TV, on which they are now going to watch, let's see, probably kids' movies don't require too much cultural context, Lion King it is.

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Weird. Is that what lions look like? Do they really have societies like that? None of the characters are especially likable except Nala whom he's trying not to have opinions about. But mostly it's - it's colorful, it's nice, there's music. It's vastly better than most experiences he can recall having.

<I hope you end up wanting to watch more of these.>

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<I like it! And it's pretty low energy, you still get tired even if you heal and we're going to be walking around a lot at work.>

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<What exactly is your work?> He totally theoretically observed an email about it but it was not written to make sense to him and also he wasn't really up for being curious about his surroundings.

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<Wandering around the mall to keep an eye out and be on hand in case anything threatens the Pool.>

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<That sounds fun. What's the Pool?>

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<Yeerks can't stay in hosts forever. Three days. That's how often I need to take a little break, go soak up some rays in a pool - we're aquatic - and then get back in for another three days. They're a little expensive to build, especially if you need to do it in secret, which we currently need to do, so they have a lot of security on 'em.>

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Thaaaaaaat means he might have an opportunity to escape and that means Atsinni doesn't actually have literally no motive to ever lie to him and THAT MEANS HE CAN'T TRUST OR BELIEVE ANYTHING AT ALL.

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<No, look, they don't let hosts escape, they lock them up for us while we're in the Pool. You'll see for yourself, on the way in before I get out of you, okay. The only thing I need from you is to not tell anyone who'll listen, while I'm out, that you have magical powers, 'cause those are weird and they'll want to figure that out and that isn't going to look like you hanging out all day in the mall being undercover security.>

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That isn't trustworthy, though, that's obviously something Atsinni could be saying to keep him. Not that he should be thinking about this now, he shouldn't think about it until he's at the Pool, right now he should think about math instead.

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Right. They can just postpone this till they get to the Pool.

They are having deli turkey and sliced cheese for dinner and then they are putting on the first episode of Steven Universe and then they are going to sleep, in the bed, which has sheets now.

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By which time he's gotten to the point of sort of groping toward the idea of calculus.

He hates Steven Universe.

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Wow, okay, next time they can try that one about the kids with classical element themed powers, that looked cool.

Sleep!

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Sleep! Definitely the most convenient thing about this whole situation, that. He has more nightmares.

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Atsinni doesn't comment on that in the morning. He has potato chips for breakfast and hops in the shower. <Are you going to be cranky about it if I jerk off?>

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The potato chips... don't suck??? False, the potato chips suck, but he keeps unexpectedly not actually being nauseated whenever Atsinni eats anything and it's sort of serving to wear away some associations and the potato chips are very predictable after the first one and don't taste like memories and after multiple days of being sort of adequately taken care of he's emotionally stable enough to just dismiss the idea of feeling guilty about it. If his sense of what counts as okay had not just been dramatically recalibrated by watching The Lion King, he would maybe consider classifying this as an experience that doesn't suck. Very much. Mostly.

Will he be cranky? In the sense that it'll bring back horrible memories, yes, there aren't really any cheap pleasures that don't. In the sense of being on net worse than anything else they might do, not really. He probably should not attempt to have any kind of take on the morality of it because all his moral opinions are thoroughly pessimized. (If he did then obviously his take would be that it's wrong.) <I'm not complaining.>

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Well in that case it's happening. He doesn't make a huge production out of it; it barely prolongs the shower beyond what it would likely have been anyway (not that this is a short shower, since this time there is shampoo and stuff and that's exciting). And then they get dressed and hop on the bus to the mall.

Atsinni swings through the Nordstrom to nod at the fitting room attendant and duck into a back room to confirm with her that he's Atsinni, this is what his host looks like, yeah he can show up earlier tomorrow he'll set an alarm. "Do you need the Pool today?"

"I could wait till tomorrow morning but as long as I work here seems wise not to push it."

"Yeah, all right. Come right before lunch or he'll puke in the cells, if he's a puker, and the Taxxons don't get it all reliably."

"Gotcha."

And they are off to patrol the mall.

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Shampoo is exciting. It's not as new to him but it's still nice.

The mall is also nice.

<What are Taxxons?>

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<Another kinda host. There were some around when we nabbed you but it was too dark to see them, there'll be some around in the Pool. They're the centipedey guys.>

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<Huh, okay.> That will probably be interesting but he's trying not to anticipate anything about the Pool too much.

In between noticing things about the mall he tries to figure out how to square a circle.

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Atsinni drifts around the mall, window-shopping, trying on clothes, actually buying some clothes but asking them to be held for him till later, taking selfies wearing half the merch at a sunglasses kiosk and buying a pointy-cornered red pair with rhinestones which the proprietor pronounces "interestingly genderfuck", and when he finds the whiff of Cinnabon too tempting, back to Nordstrom to go through the secret passage in the employee bathroom. There's stairs, and after they've gone down the first flight, they can hear the screaming!

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Oh, it's not going to be lonely. Hell is often lonely. They presumably have much less space here.

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Atsinni introduces himself to people, some of whom he apparently knew at least distantly before, and gets in line. The process appears to be that each host - they're only doing humans right now, maybe the centipedey guys and the scary spiky ones take off-peak-hours - gets locked up and then tipped forward over the sludgy-looking pool of fluid in the center of the room, their Yeerk goes out, and they get tossed in a cell for some amount of time, after which they get hauled back to get their Yeerk back. In the cells, they appear to be doing things like:

- sobbing and screaming
- puking
- jerking off, while having a shouted argument with the host in the next cell about whether this is a reasonable thing to do in this situation
- pleading with their captors
- sitting quietly doing the crossword (this one isn't restrained at all - is in a cell, but not shackled there)
- looking for ways to commit suicide (this one has been a bit more thoroughly restrained than most of them)

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On the way to the Pool he just repeats don't think don't think don't think don't think don't think don't think over and over until Atsinni isn't going to overhear anything. Math would also be fine except he can't focus on it at all. It's not that any individual person is suffering that much, they actually mostly seem to be suffering relatively little, and it's not that there actually are more total people suffering, but it's more visible suffering all in one place than he can remember ever seeing before and they're being loud.

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<As you can see you are not going to escape, and if anyone listened to you talking about your healing factor, which they probably won't anyway unless you hurt yourself, all that would get you is studied. We good?>

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He is not thinking about that yet. It's entirely possible that he's going to do absolutely nothing but he's not going to commit to that before he's thought about it and he's not going to think about it till he's alone.

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<Dude. If you rat me out they probably kill me for not reporting you as an interesting find as soon as I hit gray matter. And then for all I know I go to Hell! Is that what you want?>

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That is not the way to get him to commit to anything but it is a way to reduce him to incoherent internal screaming. Maybe soon it will be incoherent external screaming.

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FINE. Atsinni gets out of the line and grabs a gag out of a basket and makes to tie it on. "It's his first time, he's usually a sweetie but this is throwing him and I don't want him to panic too bad and bite his tongue," he sighs at the curious-looking guy ahead of him in line as he slips back into place. "That's what these are for, right?" Then he stuffs it in his mouth and knots it.

"Ah, yeah, legit," says the guy in front of him, who looks like he's probably not more than sixteen. "Mine's a pussy about that kind of thing but he just fucking loves pissing himself to make a nuisance for me. Hosts, right?"

"Mm-hm," sighs Atsinni around the gag.

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He doesn't react much, even internally. He's too busy freaking out about what kind of afterlife Yeerks go to.

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Then they can make it to the head of the line and into the manacles and tip forward, held securely by a couple strong staffpersons.

Out goes Atsinni with a little plop.

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Once Atsinni's not suppressing it he feels intensely sick.

Takes him a while to manage to think anything at all, and even then... well, there's no actual point in thinking about whether he can possibly make decisions, then, is there. Fair enough, really.

It's just... he obviously can't be trusted and it's obviously silly to care about his preferences, but it would be kind of unexpected for that to be true of all of these other people, and no one else seems to both disapprove and be in a position to do anything about it. That's true of Hell, too, but there aren't countless damned souls screaming at him right now, and he's not so exhausted that he wants an excuse to give up this time. So it hurts more.

He does not, in the end, make any progress on anything he meant to think about.

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He's escorted back to the pool after about an hour and leaned down for Atsinni's convenience. Atsinni breaches the liquid into his ear.

The nausea settles down. The staff unlock the shackles; Atsinni unties the gag himself. Doesn't say anything right away. Heads for the stairwell.

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He doesn't say anything either. He's not thinking much.

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They go up the stairs. The screaming sounds die away. They pop out in the fluorescence of Nordstrom. Atsinni heads for the food court.

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This is fine. He deserves to suffer anyway. It's so unfair that he can't just gut himself, too. He keeps having to suppress he urge to be angry at Atsinni when this is so reasonable, and the urge to try to talk Atsinni into doing something good when he has no idea what that would entail, and the urge to try to run away when that wouldn't even have any effect.

<Can you maybe skip sleeping in the future, I think it's easier not to care about anything when I'm tired.>

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<I can try it tonight and see how it goes but I don't know how hard it'll be for me to do stuff with your body if it's tired.> They are having a Cinnabon and, ooh, what's that, a slice of pepperoni pizza, for lunch.

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Cinnabons are horrible. Pizza doesn't taste like food, not really, it tastes -

- if his emotions connected to anything anymore he would maybe throw up.

<The chips were better.> Why is he bothering to say so, it's not like anyone should ever listen to him about anything.

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<Yeah, I know. Kind of weird that I can like sweets when I have to eat them with your mouth and you don't seem to like 'em.>

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<I used to like things. I think. If I don't remember wrong. I think maybe a very long time ago I would've liked the Cinnabon. Maybe you have the taste I would've had if not for everything?>

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<Plausible.> Atsinni busses the tray like everyone else and explores more of the mall. There's a fountain. There's a little indoor playgroundy thing with toddlers. There are escalators. There's a shoe store, he pops in there to shop because they currently only have flip-flops.

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Extra shoes, wow. They could - nope he's not going to have opinions about things. Atsinni will get whatever Atsinni wants and he doesn't need to think about it.

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Well if he's going to be that cagey about his opinions Atsinni can't throw him a bone even in this situation where he totally would because it doesn't involve compromising his ability to enjoy this desirable host body! He tells the employee he's been wearing nothing but flip-flops for a while and doesn't know how you're supposed to fit regular shoes, can he help, and gets fitted, and of his original shortlist of five styles of sneaker finds one that the store guy says fits him. They're white with gray piping. He is also going to buy these neon green alternative shoelaces, why not, and get the guy to put them in for him.

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He has no opinions about that. Ideally he would not even have any thoughts. He wishes he couldn't even perceive the shoes.

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<I think there's a fancy trick where you don't let your host access their own senses but I super do not know how to do it.>

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<You don't have to. I'm sorry.> That would be so nice. Counterpoint: all of his preferences are wrong. Whatever, it apparently doesn't matter anyway.

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<Well, if I run into someone who knows how I might as well ask.>

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<Thank you.>

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<You're welcome.>

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Atsinni is simultaneously dramatically more solicitous than anyone else he can recall ever meeting and also the most openly horrible person he can recall ever meeting and it feels weird and dissonant even though there's no real puzzle there, just the fact that everyone else was secretly horrible. That thought seems like it might bother Atsinni and he regrets having it.

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<I don't think it's that complicated. I'm a Yeerk. We're in the middle of a war for the survival of our entire species. Earth and the hosts on it are an indispensable resource because without taking them we are helpless and tiny. So we can't exactly cut it out with the whole slavery thing. The Andalites will find us here eventually, or corner us on another front and backup from here will be what wins or loses the war, or some other key thing will only work if we have the hosts and the industrial base to keep going. I don't want to die, or hang out useless and blind in the Pool while all my friends contribute to making sure we still exist next year. So they gave me you and I took you. But I don't have to be any more awful about it than that. I guess I could report you as having magical powers but I don't actually think they'd figure out how they work.>

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<I don't think you treat me in a way that makes you horrible. I think the fact that when we talked about it you told me you weren't trying to do what's best for everyone and you didn't seem bothered about it, the fact that you didn't want to bother doing research on how bankers live even though you could either ask a friend who's possessing one or, if you couldn't, the information would also be useful to your people, and the fact that - I don't know - maybe it's the slavery thing but I never previously had the impression that non-demons who kept slaves had to invest that much specifically in measures to prevent suicide but I don't really know anything so maybe I just didn't know that - I don't know anything about the Andalites, and maybe they'd do horrible things to everyone if you don't stop them, but you just told me about your motivation for fighting them and it's "I don't want to die" and "I don't want to be useless and blind" and - I wouldn't want to die either, in your place, but you only just found out about Hell, so I'm a lot less sympathetic - or maybe that's not it, it's not how I'd put it if I had any filter here but I don't - I don't even know that you do horrible things, I just think you want to have fun and preserve the ability of your friends in particular to keep having fun and don't really weigh anything else - I don't know, though, you're an alien and I'm not very smart. I could be completely wrong about all of this.>

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<I mean, if I weighed other stuff it seems like that would really prevent me from having fun and preserving the ability of my friends in particular to keep having fun, so, I can see what you're going for but have no particular incentive to go from here to there myself. I think you're doing some weird mix of like, ethics the way I was led to expect humans sometimes do it, and also being incredibly traumatized but not in the way I was led to expect humans to do it because nobody knew about having-been-to-Hell trauma.> They are going to sit in this Barnes and Noble and look through a photography book.

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He would rather not have opinions about the photography book but in fact he thinks it's great.

<You also... seem to only be worried about Hell for yourself when it's - hm - when you were telling me you didn't want to die of me talking to someone, you don't seem like you care about it enough to do research on that instead of look at photographs. I think when I try to imagine being really selfish I still imagine caring about things besides having fun.>

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<I didn't want to research how it affects bankers if I make the numbers in my account go up. I kind of doubt that's even the sort of thing humans actually know.>

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<Why is that in particular confusing?>

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<Well, banks get more complicated with computers and stuff, they're not just, like, a place with armed guards with a pile of silver coins in it these days. There's insurance, probably. Complicated financial... instruments. Of some kind. I think if any bankers were going to notice we'd have a stricter policy about hacking, or at least we'd have prioritized taking over some banks. You can pick the next book if you want, this seems like a good store to spend the afternoon in anyway, I just don't have enough practice at reading and talking to you at the same time.>

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<See if there's anything useful about - I don't know what keywords they'll want to use but I remember not being surprised to have an afterlife and I remember priests existing, so it might be possible to find information about Hell, only I guess I'm not sure how to confirm that a book wasn't actually secretly written by demons - I don't know, it would be useful if you think you'd be able to tell if it was actually wrong or something. Maybe. If you don't think you could tell then I don't really care, photography is nice.>

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<Yeah, I have no idea how I'd tell if a book was written by demons. I think some humans are aware demons exist but I also think some humans are aware Skrit Na exist and neither of these groups of people is a majority.>

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<Maybe the humans who are aware Skrit Na exist would know more than the humans who aren't aware of that? Or maybe not, I wouldn't know. I don't think I've heard of Skrit Na before.>

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<I don't know if they go by that name among humans they abduct. Sometimes they grab people and study them and take their stuff.>

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That sounds bad but then again perhaps it is good, it's not like he knows what things are bad.

<It's so frustrating that you can't just trust someone enough to ask for help. Unless maybe they wouldn't be any good at helping anyway. That would also be frustrating but not in the same way.>

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<Yeah, I have friends but not ones who'd be good at this thing you're interested in or who would definitely not turn me in for keeping you secret.>

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<I don't really see why you're not also interested, at least while we don't know enough to rule out options like "you totally do go to Hell but only if you die on Earth" or - I don't even know what else - there could be something simple but - > Unfortunately they have to figure everything out from first principles since his information is untrustworthy.

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<Wouldn't anyone who wrote a book be someone who escaped from Hell, like you? And you don't know anything useable.>

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<I don't think so? It's... hm. First of all, I think I remember there being people who had information about Heaven and Hell that came from God - but maybe I remember wrong - I just think I remember hearing something like that before dying, but maybe not - and maybe I heard it but it wasn't true - anyway. It's not just that, though...>

It's hard to put the rest into words. He has a sense that he doesn't currently have usable information but if he weren't so stupid maybe he would; he's pretty inclined to blame himself for not figuring things out sooner, and he can't do that and think a smarter person wouldn't be able to use his observations somehow, if not his inferences. But he's not wedded to the idea that there was ever any way to do better; maybe it really is impossible. Maybe it's impossible for everyone, from all vantage points, only - this thought is labeled "only I should have been better at math" (he was once taught about functions, specifically to fuck with him, taught them as pairs of values that constituted solutions for functions like 7483x^3 + 0.093y^2 without the idea of graphs ever being suggested, as an illustration of how a question could have an infinitely complex answer impossible to fit in a human mind; he doesn't think of this whole incident in detail but it could have tipped him off, if he'd just managed to think of the right things on his own) - he's reluctant to conclude that it isn't possible to know things, because he really could have been better at math, and he mostly squares that circle by thinking other people are smarter. And maybe they're smarter in ways he could learn to emulate, or maybe they're not; and maybe his memory is too distorted and spotty to be of any use to a smarter person, or maybe it isn't; but he has no reason to be certain either way.

It seems like, also, there should be other ways of getting information, since they do send people to Earth and those people do things on Earth and it might be possible to piece together, not what those people say, but what effects they have on the world. And then, Heaven might or might not also be real, might or might not also be interventionist, which might or might not mean the effects that visitors have are a wash.

If they tell different lies to different people and multiple agents get captured, what then? Do lies have to relate to truth in some kind of way - like being able to produce enough supporting evidence - that if you know ten of the lies someone's told you know something true about them? How many of their agents are even deceived in the first place?

<...I don't know. I guess I think - concluding that all the information would come from a specific source and there's no way to use that source is more certainty than I can understand having? Maybe you have a reason for it.>

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<I mean, we have pretty good intel about humans and things humans know? I think if the Yeerk Empire knew Hell existed because any of the reports on it were credible that would change the strategic picture enough that I'd have heard about it. There might be something that would be credible only with the information you add to the picture but I have absolutely no idea how to find it. You were alive a long time ago, maybe everything God said has been degraded to the point of being indistinguishable from insanity among people alive today.>

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<...Does the Yeerk Empire not know because all several thousand of the people possessing people with firsthand knowledge of the hereafter haven't told anyone.> Maybe not, maybe he's the only one they've ever caught, but if he's a secret then why would he expect to know about anyone else.

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<That is one way the Empire could fail to know, we haven't got enough humans to be sure we'd have grabbed one. Uh, besides you. I guess maybe we have twelve and all their Yeerks are doing the same thing as me.>

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<Is there a way we could signal to them that we know, without making anything clear to people who don't know?>

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<May...be? I can't think of anything obvious though.>

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<Me neither.> Since after all his judgment is absolutely worthless and all his ideas are bad.

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<Well, you know, it seems worth doing if it's feasible so think about it if you feel like it and maybe we can come up with something that would work at all between the two of us.>

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<Do you really think it's really worth me thinking about it?> He figures it isn't, since he'll just come up with whatever answer the demons would want him to come up with, but then again he doesn't trust his own judgment in thinking that, either, so if Atsinni is sure then he'll try.

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<I mean, I don't know but I don't think it can hurt anything, if you come up with something stupid I just won't do it.>

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Ah, to imagine that if someone proposes a stupid plan you just won't.

Maybe Atsinni just has judgment that good. Maybe almost everyone does.

<Okay. I'll try.>

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Cool.

As far as Atsinni is concerned they might as well spend the whole rest of the afternoon in this Barnes and Noble, they probably shouldn't do that every day because they'll get to be recognized but they can do it today. After they have seen all the photos he grabs a randomly selected Chicken Soup for the Soul.

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Ugh, he doesn't feel the need to pay attention to that.

So, ideas. Ideas. The problem with trying to come up with ideas is that he can't trust his own judgment at all - okay, not not at all, he thinks the Hell thing is more likely than not. He thinks one plus one is two; he thinks two plus three is five; he thinks a lot of really easy things like that, things that he can be sure of. There's just - no obvious way to turn that into anything useful. Not literally always, if someone said they wanted to have two scribes copy four books of equal length and wanted to divide the work evenly then there'd be mathematically grounded answer, though maybe they should do something else instead like give all the books to the faster scribe and tell the other one to figure out how to make a printing press...

When he tries to just make up things that intuitively seem like good ideas he doesn't even get relevant ideas, just ideas for ways he could maim himself and speculation on how to keep it from healing.

So how would someone smarter reason something definitely correct out from first principles? He doesn't know, he's not someone smarter. How would a version of himself who had caught on to being in Hell a lot sooner do it? They... wouldn't, there weren't any opportunities to escape, there were only opportunities to resist and -

- instead of going anywhere useful this train of thought dead-ends in a flashback. 

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Atsinni puts the book back on the shelf and takes them to the nearest mall restroom. <How would you write a story about it? Or, what would you expect to come next, if someone said 'let me tell you the story of how I...'>

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It takes him a minute to get from noticing that that's a very sensible question to realizing it's aimed at him and he should consider it at all. He's - not, actually, shivering or hugging himself or breathing hard, and it makes him a little calmer but also less able to parse the here and now as more relevant than his memories.

<...Good question. Um.> He's instinctively stalling for time while he drags his thoughts back onto the topic, as though if he puts up a good enough front Atsinni will somehow not notice. <So someone says 'this is the story of how I identified the secretly dead hosts' - injure them, only that's rude and cruel, don't do that. Someone who wasn't damned could pray. I don't think the saints or God or the Blessed Virgin listen to me anymore but it wouldn't be me, anyway. Those don't feel like the ends to satisfying stories but I don't think being true is what makes stories satisfying. Hmm, really in a story if it's been told a few times over I think it goes, I don't know, something like 'I went into the woods and I met a mysterious stranger who told me to solve my problems by, uh, never telling anyone I met her and bathing my new spouse in rosewater while wearing this magic scarf.' And that would cause all the Yeerks to hatch into humans. By magic. I think maybe it depends on the type of story, though. Oh, maybe the most satisfying vaguely plausible way for a story to go is that someone jokes about it, and it's obviously a joke except it's so specific that people who know it's a real phenomenon wonder but people who don't have any reason to think "my host is damned and regenerates" is more likely than "my host is a selkie and can breathe water" don't think anything of it.>

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<Well, I guess I could try creating a social atmosphere where people are making jokes of the form 'my host is a selkie and can breathe water' and then come in with the damned regenerating thing. I could try praying if that might work, I guess, but I'm not clear on how you could tell they were listening in the first place let alone how you could tell they stopped.>

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<They don't answer my prayers but I guess maybe they never did in the first place, and maybe they listen and laugh at me.> Oh no, he was too certain of something in the face of no evidence, even after trying so hard to realize he doesn't know anything, that's awful. Maybe he's even wrong about them not answering his prayers! Only he's pretty sure the last time he believed in anything to do with saints he was humiliatingly wrong about it! Or maybe he wasn't! Maybe he is a space alien from the planet Jupiter who appeared out of nowhere with false memories two seconds ago!

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Atsinni doesn't really know what to do with that. <Well, being ignored isn't a big deal, I can try it when we're home.>

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<That makes sense.> His ability to notice things that don't make sense is obviously broken, how could he be from Jupiter and have just started existing. No, wait, he's just assuming he's on Earth. And that Earth isn't part of Jupiter. The gulf between his inward reaction and what Atsinni's body is doing is making everything feel unreal and disjointed and like there are absolutely no constraints on how ideas might relate to experiences or other ideas.

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<I think it'd be worse all things considered if you were piloting the autonomics, you were so nauseous in the Pool.> They are done in the bathroom and head back out into the mall. Back to the bookstore, why not, this time he grabs a YA novel with a dragon on the cover.

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Those things... happen. He exists and doesn't really react to things for long enough for a reasonably quick reader to get through several pages.

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Atsinni isn't that quick at it, he's in no hurry to find out what happens at the end of this honestly not very well written dragon book, but he will sit in the B&N and page through it.

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After a while he gets sort of interested in it. Dragon stories are different these days. Stories are different these days, but stories about dragons are additionally different in their own specific ways.

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When the store is starting to empty out toward the end of the day Atsinni buys the partially-finished dragon book and heads out to get dinner at the Rainforest Café.

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The Rainforest Café is really cool.

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Even though they're going to eat a bacon cheeseburger there?

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nOPE

But it is really cool before they're served, so, there is that.

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You win some you lose some. Atsinni really enjoys the cheeseburger and fries though!

They have a little more time to kill before their mall shift is over and Atsinni is going to spend it in a massage chair at the Brookstone.

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Well, that's nice.

<You should maybe time food for when I'm being like I was earlier, I probably wouldn't care as much. - Or don't, I don't know, I don't have good judgment, do whatever.> He doesn't have a better articulation than "earlier" because he is unfamiliar with the word "dissociation" in this context.

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<Worth a try.>

When their shift is over Atsinni heads out through the Nordstrom and nods to his supe. You can't hear the screaming at all from inside the store.

Bus home and back in the apartment. They can finish the dragon book.

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Cool. Books are cool.

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They were going to try not sleeping, so when the dragon book is finished and propped up in an empty cardboard box - Atsinni did not anticipate the need for a bookshelf - the TV can go on. No Steven Universe, how about Avatar.

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Avatar is nice! Parts of it are upsetting in ways that have nothing to do with horrible memories and are nice and distracting, and parts of it are just funny. It should have more music, though.

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Atsinni cannot accommodate this but they can binge Avatar all night. He sips water but does not insist on snacking in the middle of the night.

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That makes the night the best stretch of continuous hours of consciousness he can remember ever having.

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Oh good. He'll get the hang of having a human eventually.

Once the sun is up it is hygiene and breakfast time and back to work.

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He succeeds, this time, at dissociating so hard it doesn't really feel like it matters. Also at spending most of the morning not having thoughts at all. Somehow it is still not an experience of transcendent bliss.

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Well in the bookstore they are going to read a book about MEDITATION, how's THAT.

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That is probably useful. He tries to pay attention. He's notably worse at that.

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Atsinni buys the book about meditation and after lunch reads it again in the atrium with the fountain where there are comfy benches.

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Somehow this experience is the exact flavor of nice that feels like the only proper response is sobbing. He isn't sobbing. That feels very wrong and he has no idea how to react to it. He would really like to stop existing.

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<I'm not going to start sobbing in the middle of the mall, everyone will notice.>

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It feels like Atsinni keeps being mad at him for things that aren't volitional and that bothers him because he doesn't really want to feel like being a good person requires putting a lot of effort into not thinking anything that might lead to having feelings Atsinni doesn't like. Obviously he isn't suggesting that Atsinni should do stupid things just because all his preferences are warped by demons and he's vaguely offended.

Also he would like to stop existing even more now and possibly do things to their body that would kill a normal person just because he ought to suffer horribly. Or possibly because it's familiar and he'd like to feel in control of it and he's not totally not a masochist. (Actually he's pretty significantly masochistic, it just hasn't historically helped much because demons are pretty good at noticing when things are pleasant and not doing those things again. He hasn't noticed this is an axis people vary on.)

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<You're my first host, I don't actually know what a normal amount of reacting to your thoughts would be let alone whether it'd apply to you.>

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<I don't either. Are you aiming for normal or are you aiming for something else?>

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<I dunno. I want to do my job and experience cool human stuff but within that constraint it'd be nice if you were - calmer, happier, something like that.>

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<That would be nice.>

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<I think I imagined it'd be really easy to figure out how to take care of a human! I'm not sure why I thought that, presumably most people's humans have less going on than you and they're still usually upset about everything.>

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He's of two minds about that. On the one hand: it feels like maybe it could be as easy as not repeatedly intentionally doing things you already know are upsetting. Sure, there are compelling reasons to ignore him and act without regard for how he feels, but that's not "it's hard", that's "I have chosen to do something else instead".

On the other hand, he's ended up hurting enough people with good enough intentions that it seems plausible that someone could have the best of intentions and still do worse than nothing. Since if he recalls correctly, well, he's done it himself. And noticing that something is hard is compatible with not trying to do it.

But then on the third hand maybe none of that applies to whatever is up with other people, there aren't compelling reasons to ignore what other people want, unless maybe there are, he doesn't really have any idea. Maybe it does apply. It's - probably specific to Yeerks if pretending to be normal involves not crying and everyone in the Pool is obviously miserable? Maybe? Maybe that's not right, he's wrong about basically everything, the idea occurred to him but he can't evaluate it at all.

In lieu of words he just sends the idea of a shrug.

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<Oh, I think most humans just really don't like Yeerks in general, is what's up with them. Some of them are chiller about it and those ones are the ones who weren't as restrained since they aren't going to try to do any murders. I'd really rather it didn't upset you when we eat things but I can't suppress hunger the way I can suppress being sick to your stomach with emotions you're having and I'm not. Also I like food and there is not other equally fine stuff that is not food that I can do instead to accomplish experiencing tastes and not being hungry. I'm trying the not sleeping thing! We didn't watch any more Steven Universe because you hated it!>

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<I appreciate that when it doesn't have any bad effects you try to be nice to me.> Which is a completely different thing from actually prioritizing it, it doesn't seem like most things can be achieved without making any tradeoffs ever, although maybe he's wrong about that? But it doesn't seem like this thing can be. And obviously it's perfectly reasonable to make all the tradeoffs in one direction because if you have two people and have to hurt one of them why not pick the one who deserves eternal torment. This train of thought does not crash into a flashback and die but it does come with some relevant sense-memories. He isn't being sarcastic, he's entirely genuine, although he's refusing to consider head-on whether he cares that that's what he deserves or whether he's even correct that he deserves it, and he's very bitter at no one in particular.

It seems like if people in general just really don't like Yeerks and are being forced to tolerate them then it's not really a mystery why they're very upset. Maybe. Or maybe human emotions work some different counterintuitive way. Who knows. He's not saying it's wrong to hurt people, of course, he has no idea how he'd tell if it was wrong to do that, it just seems plausible that there might be an easy way to achieve it, or at least to avoid this one particular category.

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<Okay but to be clear I'm not prioritizing me because you deserve it, I have no idea what you deserve and I'm not thinking about that, I'm prioritizing me because I'm me.>

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It's so intensely frustrating that Atsinni keeps - doing that - he doesn't really have any idea what exactly it is, just, that.

<It seems like if the situation were totally different and I were someone else who didn't deserve this that would be unfair. I think. Maybe. If you think I'm wrong you're probably right.>

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<I didn't say it was fair?>

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That. Thing. The total lack of interest in whether he's doing the right thing, whether he hurts people, whether he's being fair, or basically anything other than whether he's having fun. He has so many advantages, like not being fundamentally corrupt and evil, and having friends, and trusting his friends, and having the ability to make choices both in the sense that he can take actions at all and in the sense that he can predict how his actions will affect the world and take actions to affect it in ways he likes. And he keeps rubbing it in, that he's wasting all that, making sure his worthless wretch of a slave can't even look on the bright side without being constantly reminded that the approval of some damned fucking sinner is unnecessary and irrelevant, that the only virtue left to be cultivated in this situation is the humility of submitting himself to Atsinni even though - Saint Aurelius said, "we should in truth think it possible for another person to have something that is hidden to us and whereby he is better than we are" (or maybe he didn't, maybe that was a forgery!) and Atsinni insists on making it as hard as possible to do that and it feels unfair.

Probably Saint Aurelius actually never said that. Maybe humility isn't even a virtue. He has no idea and he's so tired and so frustrated and just wants to stop having a conversation that is obviously just bothering them both and see if he can stop having thoughts now.

<I'm sorry. I keep thinking stupid things and I'm sorry. I hope you forgive me.>

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<I could just stop talking to you if you'd rather but I'd expect you to get lonely. Maybe you wouldn't, I think humans don't get as lonely as we do.>

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The thing is that he desperately wants to be spoken to and desperately wants to stop answering back and can't achieve both of these things. <I would get lonely, yeah.> Now he is dwelling on just how lonely it gets, to not be allowed to talk to anyone for long stretches of time and then afterward only allowed to talk to the demons for even longer... <I'm not really sure how fast in terms of hours, I didn't get to measure time while I was there. I think maybe not within an hour?>

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<Okay.>

And he reads the book about meditation through for the second time and then goes to a craft store to inspect all the yarn and fake flowers.

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He's vaguely in favor of fake flowers. He mostly zones out. He daydreams but he tries not to daydream about anything with a plot.

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Atsinni walks out of the craft store with a book on knitting and a ball of variegated yarn and pair of knitting needles. He sits in the atrium and starts attempting to teach himself to knit, book propped open on one knee with the opposite foot.

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He has a little relevant muscle memory. Sort of. Actually modern beginner projects are different enough that his memory, such as it is, gets in the way, and he isn't skilled enough for it to be net positive that he's ever picked up a set of needles before.

Knitting is nice. It's probably inefficient now, they have machines for it, although in that case why do they have books for it - whatever. Better not to think about it. It's fine.

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Then they will knit all evening, except when Atsinni's pager-thing buzzes against their leg and he bags all his knitting and strides off for the Nordstrom like he is in a mild, normal hurry, only to discover when he makes it to the Pool stairwell that it was a false alarm.

Back to the atrium to knit more.

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He's starting to be good at just letting things happen without him, except when he suddenly remembers not being allowed to rest and panics briefly as though that has any relevance to the present. Occasionally he chips away at some math thing, or makes mistakes and doesn't successfully chip away at some math thing, or contemplates how much he would like not to exist.

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When their shift is over Atsinni packs up and catches a bus. They didn't have dinner at the mall so he has leftover gnocchi for dinner and then puts on the next episode of Avatar, knitting while it plays.

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This seems like it has nothing to do with him and therefore he should be very happy!

He's mostly just exhausted. Sleep seems so, so appealing. But if he sleeps he'll have inconvenient preferences and think more and his goal is to think as little as possible and have as few preferences as possible ideally none of which should be inconvenient.

The characters have so much fun, except the villains who aren't having fun at all. Maybe it's supposed to be a moral about how being a bad person makes you miserable, though he's not sure if he should expect it to be that didactic and also that hinges on being sure the Fire Nation characters are bad people. Unless maybe it doesn't. It could just be true that being bent on killing people and conquering countries isn't any fun whether it's right or not, or it could be true that someone wants people to believe it isn't any fun so they don't do it.

Not that there's any point in thinking about that. Whatever, it's a fun show.

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<I think we're going to have to sleep sometimes. If we were driving to work I'd worry about crashing, like this, and if we had a more complicated job I'd be worried about that. I can try to time it so you're tiredest when we have to go to the Pool?> Atsinni says when they are in the shower that morning.

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He startles at being addressed. <I don't care. Do whatever.> Probably when he's less tired he will care but that is a problem for future him.

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They have a lazy day at the mall. Atsinni decides to get a pedicure, that kills an hour and they have pretty toenails afterward.

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He was introduced to this concept last night but not really clearly. It's weird! It's like torture, but sort of... opposite? Like there are things that aren't torture the same way that birds aren't trees, but this is a thing that isn't torture the way black isn't white.

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They can get a manicure too!

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Also weird! He tries not to have opinions about it since that's a gateway to having opinions about less pleasant things.

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And then when their nails dry (it's a subtle French manicure situation which the lady recommended) they will have a salad for lunch and knit in the atrium.

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It doesn't matter, it doesn't have anything to do with him, nothing has anything to do with him, he doesn't even exist, he must have imagined he existed.

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That's... good???

Atsinni gets a calzone for dinner and heads home and - yeah, goes to sleep, he can't drag himself through more of this without it.

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His last dream before waking is of a manicurist who also slips splinters under people's fingernails, who's too exhausted to go to work and has to anyway and knows there'll be no mercy.

He wakes up desperately wishing he didn't exist.

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Yeah that seems to be how this human works.

Shower, breakfast, bus, mall. Atsinni has gotten sufficiently used to knitting that he takes his project to the bookstore and reads about whales while he works on it. It's going to be a scarf.

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He vividly imagines gouging out their eyes or cutting out their tongue or carving insults into their flesh, or maybe they could be branded or disemboweled or boiled alive. He kind of misses being boiled alive at this point, at least in the sense that he'd probably be happier if that were happening instead of this. He vaguely hopes that someday in countless centuries he'll have another opportunity to escape and maybe it'll go better.

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Atsinni gets a text before lunch and meets up with a friend in the food court. They get Panda Express and find a place not in earshot of anyone where they can talk a little more freely.

"Does yours think about offing herself all the time?"

"No, not anymore, but it took about a month. Sometimes she thinks about strangling her baby before it's big enough."

"Oh, I haven't had mine a month yet, maybe he'll be fine by then. At least he doesn't have a baby."

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He wonders if someone that never has the chance to make any choices would definitely go to Heaven but, of course, he doesn't know.

Having another victim there but not in any shape to talk, both of them forced to only interact with their torturers, is not new to him even if the specifics are. He doesn't even bother wishing they could talk to each other. Obviously that's not the kind of thing that happens.

Someday after however many centuries it takes to escape this and the next thing and the next and the next, and to destroy Hell, it would be nice to burn all the Yeerks to death. After making sure they have a nice afterlife, maybe, if that's feasible. Because they don't seem to care at all that enslaving the baby might be a good thing to do, and the information he thinks they have mostly suggests it isn't.

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"I'm trying to teach him to meditate but it's not really sticking."

"Well, what've you tried?"

"Read a book about it. Twice."

"Let me know if anything works, seems like letting go of attachments and whatnot would be good for 'em."

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<If I didn't need to add things to my to-do list, maybe.> Yes, yes, the real reason is that he's stupid, he knows that, but he's not going to say it.

Yeerks are terrible. Better than Hell, but terrible, and in his way when he has no reason to believe anyone else is going to try to do anything about Hell at all. He's delayed trying to figure out how to make good choices at least once already because of Atsinni and he's - inclined to reevaluate that choice.

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"Yeah, I'll let you know." Sigh.

"Welp, I've got to go meet up with the hubby," says Atsinni's friend. "Get my tray for me?"

"Sure thing."

And she's off.

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And he's imagining over and over how she'll feel, if her own hands are used to pick up her child and carry them down to the pool past all the screams and - it might well be better for the child but that doesn't matter to how much it'll eat at her. Will she scream, he wonders, or will she be too far gone by then? Will she get to apologize, down there against a backdrop of concentrated misery, or will she never say a single word to her own child in this life and maybe not in the next either?

If he has an opening it will probably only happen once it's obvious he doesn't age. That will take much, much longer than it takes a child to start to be capable of productive work. And he might not be able to figure out how not to be someone easily manipulated into torturing others for no benefit in that amount of time, anyway, who knows how long that will take.

Maybe a perfect person would say the right thing to Atsinni to fix everything. He doesn't know what that would be.

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Atsinni sighs and busses the trays and goes and knits in the atrium.

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So. How do you make good decisions. Well, why did he previously make terrible decisions? Believing people who were lying to him. Okay, and how could he have done something other than that? He could have just not believed anything anyone said, that much is easy, but then how do you learn anything? It's easy to learn things along the lines of "the object that I'm looking at right now is brown in this light" but that doesn't teach you anything worth learning. He's passingly familiar with formal logic but it doesn't really help if you have nothing to start with...

And add to it the untrustworthiness of memory and it's hard to even build up a trustworthy set of bare sense data. Maybe impossible, though it - doesn't really seem like you need certainty, merely being able to be right most of the time and having some way of correcting your mistakes eventually would work. Right? Wait, would that be enough...?

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To all appearances Atsinni is at this point completely ignoring him. He gets faster at knitting, over the course of the afternoon. Finishes his scarf and puts it on.

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It's easy to derive an interesting mathematical toy that sort of relates to the question - if you have two courses of action, to pick a random example whose specifics aren't important you could destroy the planet or not do that, and if you happen to know how many people each action will damn... in this case suppose it's however many people are alive now, or however many people are alive now plus that many again when the population has fully turned over plus that many again as many times as God wants there to be future generations... or maybe arguably that means you'd succeed or fail if and only if God wants you to, and there is actually no difference in any outcome no matter what you do? Well, if that's true then it doesn't matter, now, does it, nothing matters then. Anyway one of those courses of action is several times better, because it damns several times fewer people.

But if you don't know - maybe there's a thing you could do that you think will destroy the planet, but maybe instead it will create twenty extra planets and fill them with people all of whom will be damned - you can just say it could do either and if you take gambles like that thousands of times then you're an idiot and should realize your planet destruction schemes never work but eliding some important details it'd tend to lead to on average damning ten times the population of Earth - no, more than that, unless each of the others gets destroyed after one generation - anyway that neat mathematical toy exists and is loosely related to the question but does not, in fact, answer it, because how do you come to a conclusion other than "this course of action might cause any result" and... and do you actually want to do what damns the fewest people on average, what if there's a way to maybe damn zero people and get everyone out of Hell but it could go wrong and so on average similar gambles damn a person and a half, and instead of that you can do something guaranteed to damn only one person ever - it's not like you can ever actually damn half a person, right? Or, no, you can, if you send them to Hell for a while but then destroy it - is that half, or is it some other fraction - how do you even come up with a neat mathematical toy that works with how it's possible Hell won't be destroyed, ever -

and is it even wrong, if it's never destroyed, if it goes on forever?

...No yeah definitely, or at least, if it isn't wrong he doesn't care, except in the sense that God might interfere with trying to destroy Hell if that is wrong.

Anyway, how can you get anywhere besides absolute doubt? Well, why does he think he was in Hell? Because they lied to him about math, actually, and he could check that - or maybe they didn't, maybe they were confused, and not good at teaching humans, or maybe he misremembers, and in neither case can he trust what he remembers them teaching him, clearly, and in two of the cases that's not because the problem is with him.

He's not sure where to go with that other than "trust people who say true things about math" and he's not sure how to find someone like that, and it can't be Atsinni or selected by Atsinni because Atsinni would know what kind of test it was, which is a pervasive problem and he needs to be able to get useful information from people controlling everything he perceives while not being misled by any of it and... man, this sucks.

That's the point at which he gives up and just admires Atsinni's scarf and lets himself get lost in the movement of the needles.

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Click click, go the needles. When the scarf is finished off he goes back to the bookshop. Looks at some books about math but doesn't buy any of them. Does buy the sequel to the dragon book.

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Dragon book sequel! That is a thing that doesn't completely suck! Maybe he should just give up and let that happen.

- Except. The thing is. He keeps going back and forth on whether he wants an opening, and that's silly. He doesn't control whether he gets an opening, or maybe more to the point when. He'll outlast the mountains. It doesn't matter if he wants to give up, doesn't matter if he would be comfortable, doesn't matter whether he feels guilty about not being able to save that other slave, doesn't matter how he feels about Atsinni or about himself. If he gets an opening, and doesn't take it, and that's not because he's decided not to, if it's just because he's too confused and afraid, then that would be a choice, too. It would be the choice to be lazy, to be so afraid of having more blood on his own hands that he stands by watching all the horrors in the world and doesn't even bother to try.

So. What kind of information can you get from people who control all the information you can get?

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If he wants to ignore the dragon book in favor of thinking about information theory Atsinni will not stop him but it means he will be really confused if he pays attention again after the big plot twist, which they reach while they're on the bus home.

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He's kind of halfway paying attention. Whatever. If he can't have nice things then so be it. Atsinni likes having nice things and Atsinni's an asshole, maybe it's just the case that if you try to have fun you will end up torturing people or causing people to be tortured.

(He would kind of like to ask for Atsinni to go back and reread when he's not preoccupied but he would also kind of like to pretend not to care. Neither of these things being an option the compromise he comes to is to stew miserably.)

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When they get home Atsinni finishes the book and then has ice cream for dinner while watching the third season of Avatar.

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He's too distracted by misery to get much out of the first episode. The second is - really pushing the idea that virtue and fun go hand in hand, even more so than the rest of the series, or maybe he's totally wrong about that. Pushing it from the angle that fun causes virtue, or is virtue, or something, not the other way around. It's - why did someone think that was a good message? Or did they not really think about it? Why is this what Atsinni ended up watching, did Atsinni realize in advance it agreed with him or was that a coincidence or was it engineered by someone else?

<Hey. You've been quiet. What do you think, do you basically agree with Aang?>

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<Oh, I guess so? Like, blah blah the ultimate point of the war and the Empire is to get everybody hosts. Hands and eyes for all. And I'm down with that but they're so humorless and dickish about it which is I guess why they don't know you're magic.>

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<Why are they humorless and dickish about it?>

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<I guess they think it's more efficient that way or something. Or it's easier for whoever's commanding to manage.>

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<I don't understand that.> The things he saw at the Pool seemed like a headache to administer, compared to, say, paying people, but he wouldn't really know. It just seems like it'd be less work for a lot of people, if they didn't have to drag the hosts away in chains, if instead they could just dispense with all that and call them by name. And if Atsinni is right that they could steal vast amounts of money, it seems like they could pay people. Maybe some people wouldn't ask too many questions about where the money came from. That might be limited to amounts that wouldn't be noticed on a large enough scale but there might be people who just want Yeerks, and would pay, for real, no theft required. And just how much of the space could be repurposed - more Yeerks, storage, whatever - if the hosts didn't wait down there at all, if they could just loiter in the mall and come back when the clock said it was almost time.

But there are probably considerations that haven't occurred to him. He doesn't think his confusion is because the way they do things is actually stupid. He thinks if anything it's because he's stupid, and doubts it'll actually help to get an answer, but still.

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<Oh, they go for voluntary hosts when possible! It's just that we're still operating in secret - operating openly would be a huge vulnerability for opposed human factions, let alone the Andalites - and that makes it impossible to advertise. But you saw some of them weren't chained up, right?>

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Well, yes, although he didn't make any inferences from that because maybe they had just given up and made deals or they were too squeamish to hurt themselves or something.

<Why can't you ask people hypothetical questions that aren't really hypothetical?>

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<Oh, people try that, they try all kinds of things, but it doesn't tend to hold up as well as you'd expect when the hypothetical can't have any classified information in it.>

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He doesn't really understand but he supposes that's only to be expected since he doesn't really understand anything at all.

<Thank you for trying to explain.>

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<Anytime.>

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...So what can you learn from thoroughly filtered information? Maybe you can learn what the people filtering your information want you to believe - if they can read your mind, then that's probably just whatever you do believe, if you believe anything - right? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe they're incompetent and don't get the results they want.

Maybe something you can still say is that things that have happened before are likely to happen again, at least if you're careful not to make any other inferences - something really simple like "my subjective sense of how my body felt yesterday was that I had ten fingers, and that's been true a lot of the time, and when it's stopped being true for a while it's started being true again, so I think tomorrow I will feel like I have ten fingers" seems basically reasonable. It does seem like the experience of how many fingers he feels like he has isn't random, at least if his memory is at all trustworthy. If he had somehow done a better job of timekeeping he would know something useful about it like "on thirty thousand days I have perceived myself having ten fingers and on seven thousand I haven't" and then he could say tomorrow's odds are 30:7. That logic seems applicable even in cases where someone wants to convince you you can trust something so you'll be taken by surprise when it turns out you can't: if someone tells a thousand truths so you'll believe them when they lie, they still tell a thousand truths and one lie.

He mostly doesn't pay attention to the episode with the factory but the one after it is... interesting. Everyone on this show has such a comfortable time being taught things and this one goes into more depth about that than most episodes and has such a notably pleasant relationship between teacher and student - they're all notably pleasant, but he's encountered a couple of teachers who are about as gentle as Pakku, and of course Toph isn't in a position to exercise authority as a teacher at all, and so Piandao still stands out.

He doesn't, actually, think it'd be surprising or unlikely if it were easy to teach people more effectively and more gently than he's experienced.  He shouldn't be sure but - that's one of the things that eventually led to him catching on, that the demons were demons. (Probably.) He wonders if good teaching is like good math, and once you see it you can tell it's good just by thinking about it. Probably not. It feels like it should work that way, though, and it feels like it's clear that Piandao is a good teacher.

(He wishes he'd independently come up with the idea of not hurting your students.)

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The next day Atsinni signs up for an embroidery class at the craft store.

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Huh, they still do embroidery by hand these days? Weird.

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Apparently!

They have to go to the Pool today, too, before lunch.

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Ugh. At least he's tired enough to sleep through it.

(Insofar as anything can possibly count as relaxing, being very obviously not expected to do anything and very obviously satisfactorily miserable is relaxing, or at least not a situation where he's used to being punished for trying to sleep. Other people nearby screaming makes it harder, a lot harder, but not impossible.)

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Atsinni doesn't gag him this time; he can catch some microsleep in one of the cells while he's catching rays and then get escorted back to receive him again.

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That... is an opening and he's absolutely not ready for it and he has no idea what to do with it and he hates himself for that.

Is it at least reasonable to think if Atsinni left him an opening that soon it's likely to happen again soon? Maybe. Hard to say. He contemplates that afterward.

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<Well I'm not going to do it if I think you'll get me killed!>

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<That's very understandable. I don't want you to go to Hell. It seems like the fact that neither of us wants that should let us work together in a less adversarial way than this but I admit I'm not really sure how.> It would be obvious if he weren't a total failure as a person, he thinks, but he is and it isn't.

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<All you have to do is plan not to tell people anything or show them anything that'd be a problem.>

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okay but the last people who wanted him to do or not do things were trying to maximize torture

<Is this symmetrical with "all you have to do is - "> He can't actually bring himself to put words to it but there sure is exactly one thing he's selfishly upset about in their relationship and it's not like Atsinni doesn't already know what it is.

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<I am in fact nonzero worried that skipping meals will get me killed. Not sleeping affects how you are to handle and not eating wouldn't help, on top of how conspicuous it could be - nobody is watching me now as far as I know to make sure I'm at the food court every day but if I start acting weird or your stomach growls at the wrong moment or something they might start paying attention.>

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And he's nonzero worried that Atsinni isn't behaving in the way that best minimizes the number of people in Hell, so maybe it is symmetrical, and maybe that doesn't get them anywhere, or maybe at best it gets them as far as having empathy for each other.

(He... accepts Atsinni's reasoning, in the sense that he can't really argue that he knows better, but it doesn't feel like the sort of reasoning that was very careful or weighed his well-being very highly or took more than two minutes.)

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<I'm weighing your well-being, I'm not, like, a sadist, but I'm not going to just suddenly hard juke left and do whatever looks like it might minimize damned souls! I don't even know what that would be but it's probably not me being dead!>

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<I'm also not sure, or I would have explained it to you in detail already and be badgering you about it constantly, but I think... so, it matters if you go to Hell, and besides that it matters if I get to the point where I can actually come up with a good plan, and if I can it matters whether you get in my way.> He expects Atsinni to get in his way, at that point, because Atsinni seems to care about having fun, not about avoiding pain - he's not articulating this part in words, or even thinking it over, or he'd conclude he shouldn't be confident about it, but he implicitly thinks Atsinni is indifferent between going to Hell, ceasing to exist, and going back to the Pool forever. <Because - I guess - I've been thinking that if you want something, like having fun, you'll use all the power you have to hurt other people very badly, because it would be a really weird coincidence if, for example, making other people happy were the best way to have more fun. Even if you personally don't find cruelty fun.> He's concerned that this means he can never ever have any fun because all fun tortures people. <Also I think you keep conflating the obviously completely justified fact that you aren't prioritizing my well-being and the different> (unjustified and egregiously evil) (or maybe it's fine, how would he know) <fact that you aren't trying to do anything about Hell. It's not like prioritizing my well-being is very likely to be a good strategy for that. If you wanted me to be okay that would be really simple, or maybe it would get you killed, whatever, either way you wouldn't need to do anything about everyone else, and if you did somehow destroy Hell it wouldn't make me happy.> (He's not entirely right about that but he's not doing deep introspection about it right now.)

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<I don't know how to destroy Hell! I don't know how to find out how to destroy Hell! I don't know how to make progress on figuring out what would be a good strategy for learning how to destroy Hell! If the opportunity presents itself, sure, let's destroy Hell, but I don't see any reason to expect that to happen.>

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<It'll take some doing but my memories wouldn't make more sense if demons could read minds, if they could control minds, if they could control other people's bodies directly, or if they could achieve all their goals on their own without help. If that happened my memories would make less sense.> He could contemplate specific examples but that doesn't really seem to be the point. <I don't know how to get there without their help, I don't know if they can be injured, I don't know if there's a fixed number of them. I bet all of these problems are solvable if we just do some research and think about it for a decade, only I don't know how to do research so I need to think about that for a decade first. You seem really confident that you understand the world around you and how to make plans, so it'd probably go faster for you.>

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<I understand the parts of the world I'm familiar with! None of which include any way to make inroads on traveling to or influencing Hell, let alone without making it a worse-than-suicide mission.>

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<So I don't really know enough that you should listen to me, my ideas are probably terrible, but the terrible ideas that have occurred to me so far are trying to get recaptured, trying to impersonate someone else that they'd trust more, kidnapping other people they send here and making demands, checking that they're not just underground somewhere we could tunnel to, getting people who don't kind of suck as people to pray in case that helps - I assume there's no help coming but I guess I don't really know - or maybe other people would have ideas, or maybe the way they send people back and forth is actually learnable, or maybe it isn't but we could trick one into helping, or maybe we could talk one into defecting, or, uh, anyway I don't actually know and those ideas are probably terrible, you're right.>

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<Getting people to pray sounds at least not very dangerous? I don't know how to do it but it doesn't sound like it involves attracting demon or Imperial attention which is a great start.>

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Mental shrug. <I think most of what I know about it I learned before dying, which I guess doesn't prove that it really works that way. It - doesn't seem like my prayers since then have gotten me anything but maybe that was because of being in Hell rather than because of anything about me. Or because it doesn't work at all. Or something.> He finds the topic intensely painful, though of course that puts it in company with a lot of other topics.

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<It seems like the kind of thing you should be able to do while I'm going about my business, if you want?>

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<It's possible that'd work but there's a reason to think I specifically might not be able to do it successfully, there's some reason it's never worked for me before.> Also he hates the idea and doesn't want to think about why.

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<I can probably find some sort of church but there are at least three different kinds just on the bus route we take.>

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See, that's the thing: if he thought he had good enough judgment he'd look into all the churches, figure out how they work and whether any of them are likely to be secretly run by demons, and make use of any that aren't. He's not going to because he can't, because he doesn't have good judgment and because he can't take any actions at all. And Atsinni probably isn't going to because it's not fun. It's not clear that Atsinni could, or should, it's just that whether he could or not doesn't actually factor into what happens. Or maybe it does, who knows; the mind reading only goes one way, after all. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

<I wish I understood - so I haven't been to one recently, and I got the idea that it's not very common to do that anymore, but, you know, I think demons discouraged me from it and I remember churches being important before and if there are lots of them around then maybe they are still important - I guess what I'm getting at is, is going a good way to seem like an unremarkable human?>

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<I don't have to spend literally all my time doing things that are fun and going to churches seems safe. I haven't gotten orders about it one way or the other so it's probably fine.>

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Somehow that answer isn't within the range of answers he expected, not that he thought through explicitly what he did expect. He'd kind of like to ask for a better model of Atsinni's goals than he currently has but maybe there's no point in that, since he wouldn't trust anything Atsinni said, and maybe it'd be unfair to ask and then not believe the answer. But it still seems silly if he's going around stupidly expecting something really uncharitable and not even checking. Maybe the solution is to just do a better job of realizing he doesn't know anything and not imagine he has any idea how Atsinni feels about anything.

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<Maybe you'll get used to me after it's been a few weeks or something.>

On the way home they can stop at an Episcopalian church and have a look around.

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It's... a nice place.

He has complicated feelings about church that he's not interested in untangling right now, some tangle of homesickness and anger and grief and self-loathing.

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They can... sit in a pew and look through the books that are lying around?

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Apparently they can.

He'd have an easier time figuring out what was up with this church if he could watch the people who come here interact with each other. No, false, he can't trust any impressions he might have of them, never mind. They can read books. He hates nonfiction, it's untrustworthy but text worms its way into his thoughts and even if he doesn't trust it he ends up thinking about explicitly rejecting it in particular... but this is important and he's not complaining. Sort of. Insofar as it's volitional at all. 

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Well if it'll keep him from complaining Atsinni is happy to sit there and read for a while. <I do want to sleep tonight, right after a Pool visit is the right time for it if you want to be groggy for those.>

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<It's fine.>

He shouldn't have asked Atsinni not to sleep in the first place, it makes it easier to zone out and not have inconvenient preferences but caring about that is selfish of him and he should instead want to be as functional as possible.

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Presumably he means selfish with respect to the denizens of Hell; it's not too inconvenient for Atsinni.

They go home and Atsinni skips dinner and goes to sleep.

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Awwwww. He's not sure he should be happy about that, Atsinni has made all those arguments that he shouldn't be, but in fact he's overcome with affection and very touched.

He has the usual complement of nightmares but the last one tonight involves rescuing Aang from the Fire Nation.

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Aww.

They do have to eat breakfast but then it's off to the mall to mill around - oh, and attend their embroidery class! It lasts three hours and they are doing a sampler.

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He's more upset about breakfast, having gotten his hopes up.

But there's something - steadying, or something, he can't identify the feeling - about the idea that Atsinni would do something for his sake that wasn't trivial. It doesn't mean existence isn't miserable. It doesn't mean either of them wouldn't damn the other if it seemed like a good idea. It doesn't mean either of them has a plan, or that they're working together, or that it will ever happen again. It just means that one day someone chose to sacrifice something for him, and for no particular reason that means he finds it easy to focus on the thinking he needs to get done.

Also it means that if he were confident in his decisionmaking, and confident Atsinni hadn't planned it that way on purpose, and confident it wouldn't damn thousands of other people, and confident that for some reason exactly one of the two of them would have to go to Hell and suffer forever, and if it were his choice who - exactly none of which conditions obtain - he'd go himself, and it wouldn't be a hard choice.

So anyway. Three hours of embroidery class, which is sort of nice to watch and doesn't take much attention to enjoy in the background while thinking. And how do you get to be confident of things? How do you come up with a well-founded idea of some things as more likely than others, if you can't be certain? Of course Atsinni behaving that way could just be a plan to win his loyalty and not actual kindness - a thought that hurts very badly - but surely it means something, even if the thing it means is that Atsinni wants his loyalty, even if the thing it means is that Atsinni either wants his loyalty or cares about him - it seems like it's more likely to mean one of those things than to mean that Atsinni is really fascinated with spiders, right? Only why? Is that just an untrustworthy feeling or is there something to it?

The thing is that if it meant Atsinni were really fascinated with spiders, that would raise some questions, like "how do you get from being really fascinated with spiders to skipping dinner?" Whereas if it means that Atsinni likes him, it doesn't raise questions like that. Is there a way to be sure he's not missing questions? What exactly defines the category of question he's concerned with? It feels like in one case all the steps that would lead from the theory to the observation are clear, but in the other he doesn't see how the theory leads to the observation at all. But doesn't that say more about his imagination? Couldn't there be an explanation that he just isn't aware of? What if which sorts of connections between theories and observations he can easily think of has to do with what he was taught by demons trying to make him wrong about things? Is there something that doesn't rely on his poisoned intuition or judgment, something mathlike in its objectivity?

If Atsinni was nice to him because Atsinni is really fascinated with spiders - what, does Atsinni want to ask him later to ask another slave questions about spiders while they're at the Pool? Maybe there's a slave who studied them before being captured? Something else could happen to be true that, in addition to Atsinni really liking spiders, would explain Atsinni being kind. (He's going to feel so stupid if Atsinni actually just wasn't in the mood - another simple explanation - but that's not the point.) Atsinni liking him would explain it without needing any extra facts - is that true? What if Atsinni was going to Hell and didn't want him to grieve and decided to be an asshole to achieve that? Okay, additional facts do determine whether Atsinni liking him leads to Atsinni being kind to him. That feels somehow weirder and less default, as though there's something default about being nice to people you like that's not default about being nice to people you don't like when you're fascinated with spiders, but maybe that's just poisoned intuition. If there were a quantifiable amount of expectedness and he could be confident about that then he can see how he could get somewhere from there without relying on poisoned intuition about how to change his mind when things happen. But that's a big if, that he can basically only see how to apply to extremely simple and objective things like how many fingers he subjectively experiences himself as having.

Well, but aside from that - he's confused and mostly feels grim and afraid, but he'd say he's okay for the first time he can remember. (He'd say so because he doesn't have experience with a wide enough range of possible amounts of okayness to know what being okay even means, but still.)

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There's a section in the sampler that the teacher leaves open to put whatever you want at the end of the class. Atsinni puts a spider in it.

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He wonders if he's being made fun of.

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<Partly that but partly because you were thinking about them so much I couldn't come up with anything else.>

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<I guess.>

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It's a delicate carefully-embroidered little spider and the teacher compliments it.

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Maybe he should be proud of Atsinni. Or maybe the teacher is lying. Or something. Who knows.

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Atsinni doesn't have an opinion on that. He buys a sewing kit and more thread and embroidery hoops and muslin and embroiders in the atrium for a change.

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It seems nice that he has a hobby.

Which is odd, because arguably having any preferences or goals besides destroying Hell is not nice at all. But still.

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This time he is doing flowers and birds.

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Flowers and birds are nice. They're right up near the top of the list of things he missed while he wasn't on Earth.

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And end-of-day they go home.

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And when they're out of sight, there's an unexpected touch and they're elsewhere, in the middle of a cherry orchard.

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<This doesn't look like Hell so I assume we haven't been shot or hit by a car or something...>

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Being shot or hit by a car or something shouldn't matter but Hell lies but this place seems big, he can't think of anywhere in Hell that there's room for someplace like this, but that doesn't prove anything.

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"Hi there," says a person behind them.

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Atsinni spins them around.

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"I didn't have much choice but to scare you. I'm sorry. You're in New Jerusalem. I can take you back where you were if there's a reason to do that, but I'm hoping we can help each other first."

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"New Jerusalem?"

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"One of three... places... sometimes known as 'Heaven'. Um, before I get into too much detail about that, I did get both of you, right, I don't want to leave anyone shriveling up by accident..."

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"Uh, I'm not aware of having left anything on me behind."

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"Good, it'd be a bad idea morally and strategically to leave anyone behind. So New Jerusalem is a monarchy ruled by a person sometimes known in English as Jesus Christ - I can give you the rundown on the laws you'll need to know about in a bit if you're staying - and we've dealt with people who've escaped one hell or another enough times already to have procedures for it, although, well, none of them take into account this situation. My plan is to take you to a place that's harder to teleport into, out of an abundance of caution, and discuss how the Yeerk Empire changes things. Is there any reason why, assuming this isn't a trick and I've been basically honest with you, you'd still want or need to return to Earth immediately?"

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"Uh... not immediately but if I don't show up to work it'll complicate getting fed."

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She starts walking and gestures for them to follow.

"I don't suppose you know exactly how to do that and just lack the runway or the materials to get it set up?"

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"I do not know exactly how."

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"That's annoying. We'll see what we can do. So - my current understanding is that the person I'm talking to, who is probably not named Stan Peters, is an alien slaveowner communicating through the body of someone also not named Stan Peters who was probably stolen from one of the hells, possibly one that lies about that. I would like to know if that's correct, and if you have any idea if they know about you, and I'm wondering about the prospects for an alliance between your people and New Jerusalem."

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Well there goes the plausible deniability tactic not that it was a very good one. "I didn't think anyone knew that but apparently someone does."

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"I honestly wasn't sure, it just seemed likely enough to be worth bringing you here."

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"Well, I don't know how many people besides you know, but don't know there to be any - I mean, Yeerks know who I am and demons know who he is but not in combination."

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"Speaking of which - I'm Sara, what should I call you?"

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"Atsinni, I guess."

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"Nice to meet you, Atsinni. So, do you have any useful input into the question of whether and how to reach out to your leadership or what it would take to make it easy for you to transition away from slavery?"

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"I haven't really had much direct interaction with the higher-ups..."

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"Hmmm. Would I be wrong if I said it doesn't seem like you'd be better off if you had?"

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"I'm not really cut out for it."

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"Huh. What does that mean?"

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"I'm not ambitious or risk-tolerant enough?"

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"I personally think that speaks poorly of them. If I were in charge of something I'd try to be - available - safe - if someone had something very important to tell me and wasn't very risk-tolerant or ambitious."

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"Yeah?"

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"I would basically not worry about my own safety if I wanted to talk to the king. If I bothered him he would tell his secretaries not to schedule any more meetings with me. The worst thing I've heard of him doing to anyone any time this past millennium is having them put in a prison covering about half a square mile and containing its own library. He did worse before that but for reasons that aren't true anymore. And so when people learn things he'd very much like to know, we tend not to be afraid to tell him, so he learns what he needs to know and things run more smoothly than they would if he didn't. I want to be like that, because I want what he has and because I would want anyone who answered to me to have what I have, which is - not being afraid all the time, and being able to make plans to make myself better off instead of just to avoid things getting worse, and having people I can ask for help."

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"Maybe the Yeerk leadership needs more secretaries?" says Atsinni uncertainly.

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"Maybe! Do you know anything about their staffing?"

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"Not really, just who I'd have to take orders from."

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"Oh? Who?"

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"My direct supervisor and anybody with a Visser or Sub-visser before their name."

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"I see! At some point I'll want to talk to one of them but I hope to do that without putting you in danger."

And out of the orchard there's a barn and a house, both of them sturdy and intricately ornamented and well-maintained, and between them an arbor and several benches where two people are waiting for them, one of whom has wings.

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It seems like a perfectly nice place. "I'm not sure how you mean to do that."

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"Yeah. My current bad plan is for you to move here - I'm pretty sure I can keep you alive, but not nearly as cheaply as I'd like - but if you don't want to then I'd need to do something else. Anyway, these are Theo and Jess," she says, gesturing at the other people; Jess seems to be the one with wings. She raises her voice a little. "Everyone, this is Atsinni and I didn't get the human's name."

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"He sort of doesn't have one."

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"The human incorrectly known as Stan Peters," she says.

Jess waves. "Hi, it's nice to meet you, I'm excited about aliens."

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"Are you... not... an alien?"

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"I guess if there are people from at least two planets then everyone's an alien from some point of view! I'm from Earth originally. I guess normally I'd say 'you can get wings too' but I have no idea if you can, and, um."

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"He could get wings maybe, I don't think it'd work on me."

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"They're certainly an option if he wants them. - Your situation really looks like slavery but if people started introducing me as a slaveowner I'm not sure I'd feel confident about contradicting them and I haven't even puppeted anyone."

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"I mean, it isn't unlike slavery, but this one in particular really can't take care of himself, I think he'd probably just curl up somewhere and hide and starve and avoid sleeping."

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He does not want wings and he's trying to catalogue notable observations about these people and this place because internally screaming about how this is crushingly important and he has no idea whether any of it is true doesn't seem useful and might be distracting and he really shouldn't distract Atsinni.

He would kind of like to be offended right now, though, if that were remotely reasonable which it probably isn't. Probably he should just acknowledge that Atsinni is right and be ashamed of himself. But then again perhaps Atsinni is totally wrong. How could he possibly be sure. It's not that he wouldn't do that but it seems important that it wouldn't do him any permanent damage even if it might in some sense temporarily hurt. He's not better off for being physically healthy, he doesn't think, but then again what does he know.

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"Which to be fair would not permanently impair him. He doesn't want wings."

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Awwwww, the theory that Atsinni cares has not yet been falsified!

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"That's not unusual. I don't off the top of my head know the exact number of similar cases New Jerusalem deals with annually but it's a few."

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"- what, people who just want to curl up and do nothing? What do you do with them?"

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"There are resources available to them, which they can opt out of any time they want - I'm guessing he's from Demon U, there are residential programs for people from there and different ones for people from any of the hells people come out of not knowing how to talk, but if it's more a case of, just, flinching at everything and feeling like doing things is hard and pointless, that's what public housing and food deliveries are for. Also libraries."

(Sara looks like maybe she would have put it differently but she doesn't contradict Jess.)

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"I don't know the name of the place. - also he could probably talk though admittedly I haven't asked him to try."

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That sounds tremendously stressful. Which isn't a no.

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"They don't use that name themselves. They call it Purgatory."

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"Sounds right, yeah."

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"They've got procedures for that. But maybe we should talk about the more unambiguous slavery first, what's up with that?"

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"- me being in his head?"

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"The people who aren't the two of you. Unless all the human slaves are from hells."

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"Oh. No, just this one far as I know. So like, some humans are into it, but we can't advertise or anything, it's all hush-hush, so there's like. Kidnappings and then we can't exactly let them go because, again, hush-hush."

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"Can you tell us more about why you can't advertise?"

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"Security thing, there's other aliens who want us all dead. Last time they caught us on a planetful of hosts they bioweaponed all the host species to death and we got away with some of them but the planet's done for."

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Advertising openly sounds pretty win-win but who really knows.

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"Did they explain their reasoning at all?"

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"I wasn't, uh, there. My understanding is that they think we're so awful that we can't be allowed to like, exist, and they'll do whatever it takes to make us stop. Or maybe they'd let us exist confined to our home planet but I hear the native hosts really suck and they wouldn't let us do much of anything so it's not a huge step up."

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"Are there open channels of communication with them?"

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"Nobody told me, if there are. I'm not important like at all."

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"Do you want to stay here and take your chances with our ability to heal you when you get hungry and let me know how I can get in touch with your superiors by myself, or would you rather not?"

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"...I don't know?"

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"It's fair not to know yet but I worry that it's hard to cause you to actually have relevant information just by saying it, and I'm not personally comfortable volunteering to let you take it out of my head right now and not sure how else to help you make informed choices."

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"I mean, if I stay, and it turns out you can't keep me alive, I have to go back, and then I will be in quite a lot of trouble. So I would kind of like to know if you can do that."

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"I'm pretty confident but I can't actually test it unless you can already notice yourself feeling hungry."

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"I can tell the difference between now and straight out of the Pool but it doesn't hurt for days and I'll be noticed missing at my job before then."

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"Then I can test it now, unless there's any reason I shouldn't."

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"As far as I know that'll be fine?"

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It works.

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"- oh, that's so neat. Uh, yeah, I'm good to stay here probably and I don't think he cares." <It's not like we could get back without somebody's help anyway, so if they're evil it doesn't make anything worse.>

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"I am going to want to ask him that at some point but at this exact moment I don't have any other options to offer you and I want to be able to ask you more questions so it wouldn't change anything if he turned out to hate you." She sounds very done.

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"I mean, I can read his mind? I guess maybe you think I'm lying."

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"I don't especially but why trust what I can verify?"

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"I could let him talk but I don't think he wants to."

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"It's not urgent on a scale of minutes but if you're ready now I can get some water for you."

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"Water's not very comfortable, are you going to put me back after?"

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"I assume if he were going to scream about it you wouldn't be volunteering, so yes, but if there's something more comfortable I'd also like to know about that."

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"I mean I don't think he will but once I'm out he can surprise me. Pools are thicker and less transparent."

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"Do you know what makes them that way? I don't want to add something that looks right but is actually poison."

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"I don't. Water is okay if you will really put me back even if he has some freakout."

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"I'm not going to fight him for you. Look, I didn't intend to force this issue until I had a volunteer on hand, and I expect that to happen within a few days at the most."

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"Water is not okay for days."

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"We can pick this up again when we have more options, if you'd prefer. Right now there's more I need to know. If I contact your superiors to talk with them, are they going to try to take me captive?"

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"- well, yeah, of course?"

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"What do you mean by 'of course'?"

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"That's... the obvious way to find out for sure what your deal is, if you show up like that. Otherwise you could be an Andalite or one of their allies or something."

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"Ah. That's reasonable. Would they want to keep me, then?"

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"Maybe? I obviously don't know what they'd find out if they sent somebody in."

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She nods. "I'll take that into account. On another topic, if you do end up leaving your current host, do you think we can trust him?"

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"Not especially, he's reasonably likely to decide you're all secretly demons too."

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"That's how it is sometimes. Is there an email or a phone number you'd suggest I use to set up a meeting or should I figure something out myself?"

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"A meeting with - who? - I mean, not really, no matter who, I don't think they'll show up to meetings with mysterious people without at least trying to capture you."

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"Well, is there a way to get someone important to show up to a meeting and do that and not end up captured by a random person with no incentive to tell anyone anything?"

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"I mean, you could probably make it into a big enough deal that coverup would be really hard and then they'd tell people things."

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"Do you think I should instead just offer individual people the chance to move here without establishing diplomatic relations at all?"

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"I... don't know? Not if you're going to keep them in water?"

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"Ideally we'd get someone who knows how to provide you with better conditions than that."

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"That would certainly be ideal and it is not currently clear that you are actually going to wait for ideal conditions."

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"Before what?"

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"Before - showing up and trying to chivvy people out of their hosts and keeping them in fishbowls?"

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"So my intention here is to make it possible for people to leave what seems to be a startlingly poorly run polity, and to make people aware that it's possible. There's a bootstrap problem here where it would be easier to offer better conditions with more help from people who know things like what substances ought to go in the water with you, but I wouldn't have brought you here without both the ability to keep you alive in a human head indefinitely and the ability to take you back immediately. I am very concerned about all the slavery and I would like it to stop but at the moment I'm seeing how far I can get on that without making anyone I interact with worse off for having interacted with me. I don't want to keep anyone in a fishbowl if I can reasonably avoid it. I would appreciate your advice on making that clear."

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"Don't sound like an Andalite," he mutters.

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"I've never talked to one."

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Shrug. "Neither have I."

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"Do you have a sense of what they sound like?"

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"Well, they offered us help at first, and then when we wanted anything beyond our own shitty little planet, suddenly they started doing genocide about it."

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"That reminds me of some of the hells. People get very distrustful when they've been toyed with like that, and it's better than if they just blindly trusted demons again and again and never learned their lesson, but it's exhausting. Intentionally. Because making it harder for people to trust each other is funny, to them, or because it makes it harder for their enemies to coordinate against them. I'm sorry that happened to you."

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"I wasn't there."

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"I'm sorry it happened to your people. And that you had to live in the shadow of something like that. It doesn't only harm the people who were there in person."

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"Is there any way not to seem like them that isn't just by being openly hostile?"

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"I mean, you could also... not... propose crippling anyone for any amount of time for any reason."

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"Okay, I'm confused about when I proposed that."

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"Outside a host we don't have hands, or eyes, or the ability to communicate with anyone besides another Yeerk in the same pool without specialized computer equipment I'm going to guess you don't have. If somebody took your hands and your eyes and your voice would you say that was crippling? He's my hands and my eyes and my voice and every time you say 'slavery' in that voice I know you're thinking about how to take him from me."

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"I am expecting a list of volunteers soon. I'm not the one who suggested that I speak with your host before then."

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"- if you mean when I said I could let him talk, I can do that without leaving!"

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"Huh! Verifiably?"

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"Not unless you have a way to do that I don't know about."

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"Then I'm willing to talk to him but I don't think it will be strategically important until you're comfortable leaving. Can I get an introduction to - things like that, that you might be assuming I already know?"

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"I don't know what you already know, it seems to be kind of a weird combination of things."

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"Maybe you could tell me what you are and where you're from and how you came to Earth and who the Andalites are and what your plans were before I interrupted you. Just pretend I don't know anything and that way you won't miss anything I don't know, and I'll try not to get impatient with you repeating things I do know."

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"I was sort of assuming that you knew enough that I could not meaningfully give you any classified information."

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Sigh. "I see. Is there any information you definitely do want me to have?"

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"...not really?"

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"Okay. Do you still want to stay?"

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"Dunno."

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"Okay. I'm going to be talking to some people about plans, but I'll be close by for a while if you want time to think about it."

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"Thanks."

He will go sit under a cherry tree.

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"Hello."

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"Hey. That got heavy as hell - pardon the pun, it was completely intentional - I'm just. Still curious about everything else about aliens that isn't about that."

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"We're little mollusky guys. Andalites are furry blue centaurs with sharp butts and stalk eyes, but they can shapeshift. There's Taxxons, those are yellow and centipedey. Hork-Bajir are kinda like lizard people with knives attached all over 'em. There's Skrit Na, those don't work as hosts but we get along with them better than the Andalites do most of the time. There's Leerans, they're froggy aquatic folks."

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"That's a lot. What are they all like, like, as people?"

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"Oh, and there's our original hosts, Gedds. Gedds and Hork-Bajir are both pretty stupid. Taxxons are smart but they're also ravenously hungry basically all the time, they'll eat each other alive sometimes if they don't have Yeerks but we have good enough executive function to stop them. Uh, Skrit Na run around collecting junk and studying it, they've abducted the occasional human but I think they usually put them back after. Leerans can read minds. Andalites are dicks, they think everybody should be just like them but they don't think it enough to let anyone else have the shapeshifting technology."

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"...The Skrit Na sound cool. I assume you don't have a single-sentence description for your own species because you know too many different people to sum them all up like that?"

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"i mean, we're the ones that go into hosts' heads and operate from there, but I figured you had been read in on that part."

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"Is that who you are, you borrow just any old body and do unspecified things even you don't care about? I also like having hands but I like having them for stuff."

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"I mean, no, but I didn't think you were asking about my fiber arts hobby or what I thought about Avatar the Last Airbender."

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"I totally was! I used to ship Zutara because I used to be a total dumbass."

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"Zu... tara... wow, no, of her love interests I was kind of rooting for Jet but the canon ending was fine except I thought twelve was usually too young for humans."

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"It's not, like, too young to have a crush, it just probably cashes out to wanting to hold hands and giggle a lot and feel special. Jet really deserved better but I think he would have been bad for Katara, they have really similar strengths and flaws instead of complementing each other."

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"Yeerks don't do romance and neither has this guy so I don't have much of a template, I just thought Jet was neat."

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"The script I use for romance is that you spend a lot of time together and do cool things together that you'd have a harder time doing by yourselves and talk to each other when you're making major life plans and have sex if you've been doing the other things for a few months and think you can trust each other. But that's not universal, different societies do things differently. I sort of wonder if that's like your thing or not really."

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"Yeerks don't do life partnerships as a social institution and separately also don't do sex. We have friends."

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"Hm. What kinds of friendships?"

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"...what do you mean kinds?"

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"I have friends I see a few times a year for lunch and friends I go climbing with and talk about life and stuff and friends I wave to every day but never really talk to and there's Theo who's more of a colleague except without a formal organizational context and I'm not sure how to sum up my relationship with Sara at all but it's different from all my other relationships."

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"I mean, any given pair of people might wind up with more or less opportunity to hang out, over time, depending on their job duties and stuff."

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"So do you basically not have qualitatively different relationships?"

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"There's work-context superior-inferior relationships."

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"Huh. I mean, humans have those, but humans have lots of kinds of relationships. What kind of thing is friendship, for you?"

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"I kind of just mean anyone I'd rather be around than a random stranger."

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"That's really broad! I have friends like that and friendly acquaintances and situationally there are people like Crystal who I'd want to be around if something really scary were happening and then there are celebrities and then there's this total asshole with an amazing singing voice who sings arias for hours every evening and it'd depend on whether we had to talk..."

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"Maybe some Yeerks have that. I have spent roughly a week out of the Pool and there isn't that much to do in the Pool."

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"It's weird that you didn't spend all your time before the past week constructing a complicated social web since there wasn't much else to do."

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"There's some of that but we're mostly pretty young, talking by electrical pulse is less private and a little slower than talking aloud, and we're also supposed to spend a lot of time on education, and it's hard to find anyone in particular, or tell who someone nearby is without asking them. Some people are more aggressively social than me but I mostly drifted around eavesdropping in my downtime."

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"I wouldn't like that."

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"Neither do we."

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"That sucks! It's also really weird, though, like... humans who grew up in natural human environments don't always think they're great, but a hunter-gatherer tribe out in a forest somewhere has every fundamental human thing! Maybe not the coolest versions of everything but they aren't missing out on whole categories of things humans care about. Except flying, I guess, if you think of that as its own thing and not a cooler version of running or climbing or jumping."

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"- well, in a state of nature we do have hosts, the Gedds. They're too stupid to do much of anything without us which makes them kind of shitty company but it's company, and they can talk and see and stuff."

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Nod. "And you like having headmates and can't make your own?"

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"I'm not sure what that means but, uh, yeah, we prefer having hosts."

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"Some people insist they have more people than bodies. Humans, anyway. I am agnostic about whether that's a real thing but maybe you'll find out. But at any rate you prefer hosts for the company, not just the hands?"

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"People vary on whether it'd be plenty if we could shapeshift like Andalites and turn into whatever all by ourselves. I think it sounds miserable, though."

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"Does it matter what kind of person you share with or will just anyone do?"

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"It's pretty common to get attached to whoever one's regular host is but some people don't. It's not unheard of to actually dislike your host but if it were really common I'd think I'd see more people ceding theirs to someone else, there's more Yeerks than hosts."

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"What goes into it besides familiarity?"

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"I don't think I understand the question."

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This is a really striking amount of detail on preferences other than not being tortured and doing or not doing what's right. It seems - expensive to come up with. Like Jess probably spent an entire day's worth of hours on Avatar: The Last Airbender to be prepared to comment on any part of it, and then she's also prepared to talk about romance, and types of friendship, and - how many other topics can she talk about in that much detail? How long has she spent having fun at other people's expense because she's a demon to be able to present herself the way she's doing now?

Maybe he's barking up the wrong tree, who knows.

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"I mean, if you have two Yeerks, and one of them likes their host and one of them doesn't really care, is that just down to what the Yeerks are like? Or does it depend on things about them and their hosts, like if they have shared interests or something?"

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<It's a coincidence she's seen Avatar but I think most people have opinions about most things that have happened to or around them if they think about it a bit.>

"I think some of it's the Yeerks, I don't remember hearing about anyone who hopped between a lot of hosts and then said they wanted to keep a specific one, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone didn't like their first and kept their second. I wouldn't think shared interests would be the thing, though."

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"Do you have any idea what would be the thing?"

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"I like this one but I didn't have any I didn't like to compare with. Sometimes people say their hosts are 'comfy' but that's really just a metaphor, the brains are all the same texture more or less. - except humans have the two-part kind and it's weird, most species don't."

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<That's why I have excessively specific preferences about what kind of stone I'd rather be forced to kneel on. If she has thoughts on cartoons instead then - do you think - does that prove she spent time watching cartoons, does it prove something about how likely people she works for are to torture people or...?>

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"I think most Earth animals have brains like humans but I hadn't thought about aliens. Do you know if it's very different?"

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"Well, I haven't been to any other brains but the warning helped, I think the first Yeerks to try humans weren't expecting it and wrapped around one half and were confused about how poorly this worked."

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"Oh no. So can you, like, imagine things that could be different that would make you like this host more or less than you do?"

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<Can we check if she's seen other cartoons without having seen them ourselves?>

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"Yeah, probably. He hates eating and it would be convenient if he didn't, for instance. I think probably a lot of people don't care about what their hosts like because it would be sort of impossible but this one it doesn't seem properly impossible so I'm working on it. Except I do insist that we eat. Yeerks by ourselves don't get to do that at all. He also hated Steven Universe but that wasn't a big deal, we just didn't watch any more Steven Universe, there's lots of other stuff on there."

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"Yeah. I'd recommend you stuff but everyone likes Avatar: the Last Airbender, it doesn't really narrow it down at all - now, if you liked Avatar with the blue people, that would narrow it down - not that you asked for recs, I guess."

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"There's Avatar with blue people? What's the point of having Avatar but also they're blue?"

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"It has nothing to do with the series, it just has the same name. It was really popular for a couple weeks and then everyone basically stopped caring."

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"Huh, why?"

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"I think it's because it had a lot of innovative effects that made it really pretty, but the plot wasn't really deep or interesting and the thing that was so cool about all the effects was that they were possible at all? The reviews were all like 'it's this detailed picture of an alien planet', I guess, not about what the alien planet was like?"

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"Huh. Maybe I should see if they were right about anything on alien planets. I guess I don't know what those literally look like visually."

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"I've only seen pictures of planets in this solar system and now I'm curious if you think Mars and Jupiter are cool."

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"Never seen them. I have heard Jupiter is unusually large, matters for piloting."

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"I guess. Oh, I should be all responsible and ask you - you were saying something about some Yeerks not bothering with what their hosts like, but yours is easy, or something - can you tell me more about that?"

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"...well, I think most of them object more to just having a Yeerk at all."

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"How much does that matter to you?"

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"I think they mostly tune it out. I haven't tried it to know if I'm different."

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"There's this stupid problem. The whole thing isn't necessary, we can bring you all out of reach of the Andalites and offer you, man, I bet we could find hundreds of thousands of people who'd be into your whole deal. And being okay with slavery is going to be a dealbreaker for like ninety percent of them."

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"There are millions of Yeerks."

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"Wouldn't surprise me if there were millions who'd do it for a while if you paid them enough. Wouldn't actually surprise me if there were billions. I haven't thought about that much, I was working on getting a list of people who'd do it for free, since that's already kind of a lot of people for me to sift through."

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"And ninety percent of these people only want us to have eyes and hands if we'd be revolted at the thought of taking them without asking?"

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"I can reconsider people who'd do it for the good person points while not particularly liking you. I would personally find that even worse than someone scheming against me, but you're not me, of course. And I worry it wouldn't be very sustainable in the longer term, even most people here are only finitely good and there's not a clear end date after which you'll stop wanting eyes and hands."

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"Yeah, that's kind of how it works, we just keep wanting things till we're dead."

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"Yeah. Anyway my numbers aren't totally random, I have six hundred two thousand seventeen emails at the nonce address I set up for this, I've sorted through two hundred and, uh, twelve? I think? of them, and came here with a list of a hundred twenty nine people who might consider it a favor to them if we could find them Yeerks, depending on what Yeerks are like, and from what I've learned I think only about fifteen of them would actually like you. It's not just the slavery thing, I don't know how much that even helps, and maybe the next two hundred emails will actually turn out to all be from people who don't mind, and I can run things by people more exactly in case some really specific nuance actually makes them more interested than I'm guessing from their answers to the survey..." Shrug.

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"I do have fifteen people, though. And probably more if you paid them. And definitely more if I'm wrong about... the way that you relate to other people, I guess? Plus all the people who pity you and wish you didn't exist and will magnanimously do you a huge favor and constantly think about what righteous martyrs they are."

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"That doesn't sound much harder to tune out than hating us but it would not be my first choice if I had choices. I'm not sure how I'd pay anyone anything though."

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"You, personally, have been helping me figure this out and that's worth something, and I assume in general there's technology that could be sold or people who could teach alien languages or something. What would be your first choice?"

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"I'd keep this one, I like him."

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"Already?"

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"- I mean, I knew him well enough to impersonate him flawlessly to his intimates from the first minute, if he had any intimates and they weren't demons?"

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"You don't have to keep checking things in real time for that? That's really cool!"

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"I mean, I do but that happens kind of in the background automatically."

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"Still cool. So I still don't really get what makes you prefer one host or another but I assume asking again in different words isn't going to help. Different question. Do you know anyone who's in a really bad situation and would be a lot better off practically anywhere else?"

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"Presumably anyone else who's still in the same hell he came from?"

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"Well. Yeah. We're working on that. I meant Yeerks."

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"...it's not awful to be in a Pool or anything. Anyone worse off than that is probably dead. Or maybe in the process of dying but I don't know of anyone currently in the process of dying."

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Oh well in THAT case the Yeerk Empire is just evil with no redeeming sympathetic motives and any good they do is a complete coincidence.

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"I'm glad to hear that."

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<It's not torment, that doesn't mean we don't deserve better! There are gradations other than 'hell' and 'not hell'!>

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That is - fine, that's totally fair, he never previously actually had the thought that if no one was being tortured it would be better if they were watching cartoons than if they were sitting around somewhere doing nothing in particular, because that's sort of like planning what style of crown he should wear after he's personally defeated every demon in the world and declared himself king of the place he came from. It's not worth the time it takes to think of it, but... yeah, it's not wrong.

Or maybe it is - that's not reflexive and contentless, this time - isn't it supposed to be just and right that the wicked be punished?

- And he doesn't care if that's just and right. Even if it's objectively wrong to say they deserve better, there's - something there that he agrees with - he wants better for them, whatever they deserve.

He doesn't really want to be thinking about how the Yeerks in particular should get to have fun. He wants to make some stupid conversation-ending reductio about how that logic implies the same is true for humans, only he can't make that sound properly stupid and absurd. And making up something to yell at Atsinni about to satisfy his desire to be mad about the whole thing wouldn't work, either, since Atsinni would see through it.

<I think you overweight that and it annoys me.>

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<I think if everyone did things the - way you'd admire - they'd all go insane or run themselves into total resource poverty trying to fix whatever the worst problem they were aware of was. Or both!>

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He doubts this in the manner of someone who has never had a good example of definitely not being insane or in poverty to notice any benefits from. It sounds very self-serving.

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<I bet the people who made Avatar were not even sort of trying to solve the biggest problems they were aware of and they did a cool thing we benefited from.>

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Wow, that's true, Avatar represents a huge waste of effort and resources. That sucks.

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"You two having a chat?"

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"He is sort of trying to construct moral philosophy from a state of total agnosticism about everything except that hell is bad unless it is just in which case he is probably against it anyway but more conflicted."

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"Oh, cool. Is it the fun kind of reinventing the wheel or do you maybe want some books about it?"

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He's definitely against it anyway.

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"It's kind of tedious. He won't necessarily believe the books but I think they're not worse than useless? Though occasionally I have to read things a bunch of times for him to absorb them."

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Yeah, that reliably happens when he's tired enough. Now that he's thinking about it he's sort of nostalgic about the time he spent copying books before they invented the printing press; he barely remembers anything about any of the books and it was exhausting not being allowed to sleep or take stimulants or stop and stretch for who-even-knows-how-long but he trusted the other scribes not to hurt him, and to help him avoid punishment whether he deserved it or not, and he doesn't recall having had that kind of trust with anyone since.

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"So there's a pamphlet specifically for people from Demon U, I don't have a paper copy but you can read it on my phone now if you want. For a way more academic and longer and less practical rec, there's Ethics for Dummies."

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"I'd be interested in the pamphlet."

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She has it bookmarked. She mutters about the idiosyncrasies of the touchscreen lest they get confused about how to scroll.

The pamphlet explains that New Jerusalem (like named-but-not-described polities Rose City and the Bastion) is a very big polity with people from very different backgrounds who have very different ideas and getting along means letting people do what's right in their own eyes sometimes, but there are some extremely broad generalizations that can be made about popular points of view. Relative to a lot of people's backgrounds respect for one's betters isn't emphasized very much; it's more popular to worry about people coming to harm. Not everyone believes in desert at all; people who do still often think most of the things that happen in most of the hells aren't fair (included are some examples of wrongdoing and consequences a bunch of random people thought were fair; opinions vary a lot but less than half the people they polled endorsed anything that could reasonably be described as torture ever); there are very brief descriptions of a couple of locally popular ethical philosophies (or maybe more accurately broad categories of philosophies) and both of these general categories of philosophies approximately endorse it being good when people are happy or comfortable, modulo not necessarily using exactly that ontology, in itself and because it makes people better at things; most people think it's good to give people gifts or adopt orphans or rescue people from hells, and most people think it's bad to attack people for no reason or steal things (though there's disagreement about that) or break other people's things. The pamphlet is about six pages long. There are pictures.

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Is his host paying attention?

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Yes but kind of resentfully because look what happened the last time he let anyone try to teach him ethics. He's mostly paying attention so he can consciously flag every claim as something he read in this pamphlet represented to him by Jess as reflective of some kind of heavenly consensus or something. He's not sure if they're right, if they were represented correctly to Jess, if Jess is legit, or if he even cares. He'll have to think it through in detail later.

At least it's not a mystery?

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Well, that's something, he can give the phone back after getting through the pamphlet only once.

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"I hope that helps. That's really a topic that varies a lot, with humans, but... I think not usually in a way where I'd expect a randomly selected pair of humans living together and in telepathic contact all the time to end up disagreeing with each other."

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"Are there a lot of telepathic humans?"

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"No, sorry, I'm just guessing. Because people tend to agree with each other when they really get each other, and people tend to prioritize people they empathize with, and people tend to come up with similar ideas in similar conditions. I guess I could ask some multiples? I'm not sure that's even a real thing but I could ask them anyway."

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"I guess maybe Yeerks don't work that way. Otherwise we'd presumably converge on host-like priorities and every new infestation would be a defection risk."

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"Yeah, you're weird. I wish I had a better idea what questions to ask to figure out what's up with you. Actually I wish I could turn into a Yeerk and turn you into a human and find out that way."

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"Well, talk to the Andalites, I guess, they're the ones who know how to do that."

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"Okay but the Andalites are the ones who made nice with you and then started doing genocide, right?"

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"Yep!"

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"I don't think I want to talk to them unless it's all a big misunderstanding. Maybe someone else will."

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"Your call."

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"Yeah. Someone else will, I'm sure. Anyway, if you're staying, you ought to meet some of the people left on my list, even if you like your current guy fine and he likes you back you might want to, uh, visit? if that's what you call it? while someone checks in with Mr. No Names Only Self-Destructiveness."

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"- does this involve putting me in a bowl of water, because I still don't want to go in a bowl of water."

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"Do you need to be in a bowl of water in between hosts? I don't know how you work."

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"No, in principle I could go ear to ear."

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"Well, how about I start introducing you to people and you see if you want to do that?"

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Atsinni holds still rather than shifting uncomfortably - why is she pretending this is about what he wants, like he realized over breakfast that he's always truly desired to leave his host to go tour another brain not knowing if he can ever go back home again - but doesn't contest the phrasing out loud. "I can meet people."

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"You can also just go home if you'd rather. I don't think anyone's going to insist."

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It's not like that's going to be safe if supernatural beings are going to be fucking with everything. "I said I can meet people."

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"I can call people for you to chat first but I don't know if you want to bother or just want me to call whoever is closest right now."

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"I don't think it matters what order I meet them in."

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She sends a text.

"Fucking Andalites, this could've been cool," she mutters.

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Mood.

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Her guy doesn't take long to show up. Just long enough for a little awkward silence, and then there's the sound of a motorcycle approaching.

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He adopts a mild neutral expression.

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He gets off his motorcycle and goes to lean against a tree near them. He folds his arms, smiles almost invitingly. "You must be the cool mind control alien."

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"Is that what they're calling me? My name's Atsinni."

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"It's what I'm calling you. So I take it you're being offered a good enough bribe to grudgingly give up your slave but not a good enough bribe to do it happily, yeah?"

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"I am being wedged into a situation where I am incentivized to temporarily leave my host, into another host so that I will still be able to see and talk and run away if anyone tries to murder me and so on."

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"Ah, well, then. This might be overkill but what I told Jess is I won't commit to more than a decade and if you use me to try to get New Jerusalem taken over by your slave empire or Demon U or wherever then I consent to being imprisoned or dismembered or whatever it takes to stop you."

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"I don't want to conquer anything! I just want eyes and hands and I like these ones and they won't believe me when I report what he's thinking!"

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"That sounds like a problem I'm more than qualified to solve whenever you're ready but I'm - concerned I've missed something about it, because the way you're putting emotions on his face doesn't look right for a problem that's about to go away."

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"If someone wanted to take away your eyes and hands and you were not particularly confident you would get them back later and they gave you some spare ones to use but they came with an expiration date would this fill you with joy?"

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He raises his eyebrows at Jess.

"We totally offered to take them back," she says.

"Ah," he says, nodding. "No, that wouldn't fill me with joy at all."

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"It's not remotely safe to be back where I came from if weird shit is happening and I knew about any of it first and didn't tell people. So. Yeah. Not filled with joy."

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"Well, now, that sucks. Should I be doing something to facilitate this or what?"

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"I'll come over and clonk ears with you and then you just hold still," shrugs Atsinni, and he walks over.

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He holds still.

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Well. There was always going to be an opening eventually. And in not already knowing what to do with it, he's failed everyone in the world.

He wants to beg for them to make Atsinni do something good, only he doesn't know what is good. He wants to see if he can insist that Atsinni has to stop making him eat, but all his desires were shaped by demons to make him as bad as possible, so what he wants shouldn't be an input into anything at all.

He wants to rip his eyes out, and not only shouldn't anything he wants be an input into anything, it's like Atsinni was just saying. Those are Atsinni's eyes. How could he want to take them away from Atsinni? That's - if Jess told him to do it to another human he'd decide she seemed probably evil. Maybe not! But probably.

He has no idea how to do right by almost everyone in the world but he's pretty clear on how to do right by Atsinni, and - that's not good enough, but if he's completely at a loss about everything else then maybe it's best to do what's best for Atsinni.

And even if every single day he has to experience -

- he shouldn't think about it, he should say something about how he totally doesn't mind belonging to Atsinni, but instead he turns away from everyone and vomits. Like an asshole who has gotten to take one action in the last week and the thing he chooses is to make a mess.

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Jess shouts for someone else to bring water, then takes a couple steps toward Atsinni's former host.

"I know you probably figure I'm only fucking with you. But."

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He'd forgotten to figure that, actually. If Atsinni had offered him a choice like this it'd be real, and that... felt salient, or something.

"I'm sorry. I don't - I don't - " I don't want to hurt Atsinni won't come out. I don't care isn't true. Atsinni's been kinder to me than anyone ever is a little too honest. "I'm sorry for the mess."

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"It's not your fault. Don't worry about it."

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Meanwhile, of course, Atsinni can see into Luka's soul.

It'd be much more exciting if it were going to last. Luka is bored. Luka is always bored. Luka is constitutionally incapable of not being bored. It'd at least be something new, to see what someone else would do with his life, and this seems like a safer way to achieve that than tulpamancy and a better way to achieve that as opposed to some different thing than taking on an indenture. And realistically if he were indentured he'd get sick of it and stab his boss like he has done to three of the last fifteen bosses he's had, whereas that's not a risk here, for better or worse.

He's between times in his life when he has important secrets. Little Alexandra who asked him not to tell anyone about her crush got over being embarrassed about it after less than a century. The secret paths he used to make it out of the hell he landed in when he died have saved as many as they ever will and been discovered. The plans he and his friends worked on centuries ago have come to fruition; the codes they used to pull them off are obsolete. The backdoors he knows into important databases have probably been patched in the years since he last checked. Doubtless there are people up to very interesting things in New Jerusalem but he hasn't yet gotten them to trust him. He vaguely plans to do something more about all the hells at some point, but as long as his plans stay vague it's fine to have someone see them in his mind.

He thinks he has some idea what's up with the Yeerks. They have a humanlike-or-close-enough sense of what they should be, or they're afraid of human-scale threats, and so just existing by themselves is unacceptable. Their own society is terrible even to its own citizens; it's likely their species doesn't have empathy at all, in the sense of feeling others' pain. However scrupulously fair New Jerusalem might try to be about not taking their other options away, it doesn't help much if those other options already suck. And Luka wasn't at the top of the list. There were people ahead of him who were less volatile, who were more likable, who had lower opportunity costs, who expected to like the experience for more reasons than just that it's new and strange. He's close to the option of last resort. So whatever Jess has seen so far has made her pessimistic about the possibility of making friends with Yeerks. He expects they were probably intelligently and maliciously designed.

He's not judging them, though. Lots of humans would have an implicit next step, at this point, of being mad at Yeerks in general, or contemptuous of them, or disgusted. He doesn't. He thinks Yeerks are probably hard to get along with, and that's purely information about what he can expect other people to do and say. For his own part he's just interested and excited. (He's always excited. He's constitutionally incapable of not being excited. Seems to be of a piece with the boredom, somehow.)

It occurred to him at some point to wonder how to be polite to the other host, but getting an answer would be logistically nontrivial and anyway it seems much more important to instead get him some space to breathe and make his own decisions than to say exactly the right thing.

It would have been stupendously expensive for his whole life to have been a trick or an illusion, he's pretty sure. He's been staying in New Jerusalem for a combination of the kink scene and the altruist scene and the skyscrapers, and he's pretty confident it's a basically nice place for the sort of person who thinks it sounds like it might be a nice place; he's been to several countries on Earth, and to the Bastion (another afterlife, an objectively huge but still claustrophobic cave system home to billions of people), and to this mostly empty jungle plane, and several hells, and the Dead Republic. He's currently shaped for a vacation he was thinking of taking on Earth - maybe America, maybe China, maybe even Europe, he hadn't decided yet - so he had his wings taken off and the rest of his body stretched a bit, from the flying angel shape he had before this one; before that he tried being a woman; before that he tried being a sea creature. It's gotten much, much easier and less painful to do that kind of thing in the past century or so but he's been experimenting longer than that. He knows a lot about body modification. He knows a lot about a lot of things, really. He's not one of the really old people, the ones who remember when not a single word had ever been spoken, but in recent centuries more and more of the people he meets are surprised he's even as old as he is.

And he has a bit of magic. Not as much as Sara. They've been hoping to find out if it answers only to the soul it was granted to or if aliens can take advantage of it.

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What's the magic do?

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He can go between planes but not between arbitrary pairs of them and only in one direction (there's a standard model of planes as having heights, and it's much easier to move down than up), and it's exhausting. He can shift incoming appearances away from a place he wants to protect, but not very far. He can do a little bit of healing, more than enough for a papercut but not enough to be more than a party trick in most circumstances. He has a trick for sterilizing small quantities of things but this, too, is exhausting. He has a trick for extending his senses, but not very far and not through walls or vacuum. He can make himself more silent than a living creature should be. He can in conjure things but this, too, is exhausting, and there's a weight-per-time limit such that particularly large feathers are more than he can manage in a day - so, more than enough to spark an epidemic, not even close to enough to keep people fed. It feels like he flies better than he should be able to but he can't lift things with his mind intentionally in any other context so maybe he just designed his wings very well.

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Nope!

Also, Luka is done being patient and quiet and waiting to see what happens. <Well? Like what you see?> This is a flirting script but only because there isn't a contextually appropriate script for talking to mind control aliens. He attempts to make an associated facial expression but not with any particular concern for whether he succeeds or not.

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Atsinni is not letting him have the face at the moment. <Yeah, you're interesting. I can't use your magic.>

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<Interesting how?>

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<You're old and you've traveled a bunch and tried a lot of things, it's not more than I can sift through but it's still kind of a lot to digest.>

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<Did you get the gustatory metaphor from me or from your culture or did you make it up yourself? How much would be too much? Do you have more of my memories than your own?>

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<From you, and I don't know if anybody's ever found a limit, and yes I do.>

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<How do you know you're you instead of me? Do your memories feel different?>

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<Yeah, I access them differently. Plus the whole having a different personality thing.>

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<What happens if you try showing me some of yours?>

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Meanwhile Sara brings over a bottle of water for Atsinni's usual host.

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<I can't just do that, I'd have to tell you about them like we're doing now.>

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That is extremely disappointing. He half-consciously tries to huff about that and maybe stretch while he's at it.

<Do you come with any upside.>

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<...company? I dunno how you things stand being alone in your heads all the time, frankly.>

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<I like myself, and I like things that aren't people at all. Do you genuinely not know or are you just expressing that I'm alien to you?>

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<I mean, I can remember you doing it, but it doesn't translate into being able to imagine putting up with it myself.>

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Atsinni's usual host, meanwhile, tries to take some water to rinse his mouth and discovers that it makes him gag. Plain water never used to, before, but now he just keeps thinking of everything Atsinni's done with him, and the distant disconnected sense of not being there, not being anywhere, not being real. And now here he is in Atsinni's body and he'd give it away in a heartbeat if he could just leave.

There's no reason to think he knows how his words will relate to anyone's choice to give him back to Atsinni or not, anyway. Or maybe he just wants to think that because he can't bring himself to say either yes or no.

"If you have a plan to destroy Hell, you should do that, and if you don't, you should come up with one, and then you should decide what to do with me based on what will make it easier to destroy Hell, and if I had any preferences besides that I wouldn't tell you."

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"I'm sorry." Sara looks at Luka and, more relevantly, Atsinni. "You still want this one?"

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"- yes! I did tell you!"

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"Well. Here he is, I guess. Can I talk you into writing down everything he remembers that might be strategically relevant?"

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"What, about Hell? Sure -" He's already marching Luka over to go ear-to-ear again.

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It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. At least not resisting when people do things to him is such an ingrained habit it doesn't take any effort. It's fine, this is fine, Atsinni deserves nice things, and besides, it'll be better than almost all the experiences he's ever had.

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Atsinni rearranges his hair and rubs his eyes a bit once he's settled into the brain. "Thank you," he tells Luka, and, "Do you have more specific questions, because if I just generally rummage for Hell memories I get a bunch of torture mostly."

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Luka makes a pensive face at being thanked. (He isn't judging, even if he were in the habit of it it seems likely that Atsinni's going to be able to use this host to significantly shorten the time it takes until yet another hell is defeated, but it'd be wholly inconsistent with his character for that to be more immediately emotionally salient than worrying about Atsinni's current host and feeling vaguely disgusted at being used to facilitate Atsinni taking over that person's body again.)

"Yes," Sara says, "we could use a newer and better map of the tunnels, anything you can tell us about the number of different demons involved in running the place. Maybe you know of evidence of captives trying to resist them, or evidence of divisions or disagreements between the demons. I hesitate to say you should avoid looking through torture memories, actually, if you can get anything from them about the tools and materials they have access to."

(Jess makes a face at that and sighs.)

(And Atsinni's host tells himself that literally anything would be totally worth it if it would help everyone still there, and that maybe he'll get to watch more cartoons later, and really he ought to be totally fine with all of this.)

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"If you have computers I can learn to touch type and then he can watch TV while I'm writing things for you."

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"Oh, with a physical keyboard? I have this cool ergonomic one I can lend you. Not, like, right here, but I have one."

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"Sure, wherever, if it's got a TV and more shows like Avatar."

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"Totally. Like it how, theme, art style, sense of humor?"

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(He has no idea what aspects of Avatar he likes. Also he's vaguely worried that even considering whether he might possibly want anything more was a betrayal when Atsinni has been kind to him like this over and over for no reason.)

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"I dunno. He hated Steven Universe, if that helps narrow it down."

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"Hmmm, what if you try the first episodes of like ten really different shows? I can put together a list by the time you've figured out touch typing."

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"That would be great, thanks."

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She shows them to the place she's been crashing nearby - it's a little cabin near some other cabins, she's renting it for the month, and it's surrounded by weird sculptures and a zoo - and gets them set up with a fancy ergonomic keyboard and a program that teaches typing, and then she can get a list put together...

She ends up with a long list of shows and movies mostly chosen for being very different from each other and each having other obvious things to try next. There are half a dozen Elysian shows on her list, and a movie series from New Jerusalem, and Friends and Three Kingdoms and Taarak Mehta Ka Oolta Chashmah and Slow TV and Spirited Away and a Eurovision compilation and Grey's Anatomy and Kim Possible and Kung-Fu Panda and Fantasia and Lord of the Rings, and each one comes with its own reclist of similar things. She notes that Kim Possible and Kung-Fu Panda are probably the most like Avatar.

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Atsinni teaches himself 140 WPM touch-typing in a few hours with superhuman executive function, and then before settling in to watch TV and type wants to swing through the zoo!

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He vaguely feels like maybe he should be judging this life choice, or maybe he shouldn't and doesn't know anything, but actually all he's succeeding at feeling is that having a break to do something else before doing more typing sounds like a really incredible luxury.

The zoo has, in approximate order of proximity to the entrance, a map of itself, a lepidopterarium, a day-cycle-offset exhibit of nocturnal animals, a reptile house, a gift shop, two aquaria, a botanical garden, and an extremely large lion exhibit.

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Wow, that's a lot of zoo. Maybe this time just the lepidopterarium and the reptiles. He can come back next time he needs a break.

Back to the typing mines! He puts on Spirited Away and looks at it with only very occasional glances to make sure that he hasn't actually dhigyrf sesy gtom homr toe.

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If it made the slightest sense to want nice things for himself he'd want to spend all day with the butterflies and their associated flowers. Or maybe all week.

This movie rec feels pointed, almost barbed. It's been a long time since they took his first name from him; it's been a long time since they took away the name they gave him first; he doesn't remember half the names he's had. He doesn't want to evaluate whether they want him to imply that their explicitly fictional story is accurate about whether losing your name really traps you in the employ of those who took it, or why they would want him to think it might be, or why they would want him to specifically conclude it was a lie, or why they would want him to think they wanted him to think they were trying to convince him it was a lie. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a story. It's a very resonant story, but they probably just came up with it by figuring out what happens in Secretly Not Really Purgatory (maybe by being in league with the demons there) and writing something that'd be sort of similar.

He'd rather work at Yubaba's bathhouse than... anything he can remember ever doing before, really. It seems so nice. The spirit they remove the bike from is grateful; they're not just inflicting something terrible on a screaming prisoner because someone said it was a good thing to do, or because they're afraid to disobey, or because hurting others is the closest they get to having fun. They don't necessarily know if they're doing the right thing, but they know one thing about it and the thing they know about it seems good. And it's a beautiful place.

Also, eating things is terrible, see?

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And meanwhile, his memories.

He remembers the texture of the stone. He remembers the color, sometimes, of places where the light wasn't too dim that he visited at times when he hadn't had his eyes sewn shut. He remembers how firm it was; he remembers the planes of cleavage. He has guesses as to where the stone was carved and where the caves formed as a natural lava tube - confident ones, as long as he doesn't consciously consider whether he really should be confident. He's never actually gotten to study geology; he wouldn't believe a class or a book about it anyway, anymore; he's just paid attention.

(Luka did study geology, once, and anyone with his knowledge could be pretty confident in how the caves formed, and that the topmost layer to be found in Atsinni's host's memories formed of ash that fell through the air rather than from a lava flow, and quite a bit about how the composition of the magma changed as the stone formed.)

He remembers - things, all kinds of things. He remembers what year a fellow damned soul thought it was when they first started working on a printing press. He has a lower bound for the number of nameless interchangeable demons running the place. He has a lower bound on the number of books they have. He has a very partial list of languages they speak. He knows so, so much about their material culture.

They systematically try to train their captives not to tolerate almost anything that would help them think clearly or make careful choices or keep their emotions under control. Food is one. Sleep is another, or was supposed to be; it didn't work out as intended this time. He was allowed water when they didn't want him too hoarse to talk, and could theoretically infer that not everyone ever had a job where that was a requirement. He hasn't identified the pattern and doesn't have enough faith in himself to wonder about it.

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Atsinni writes this up for the duration of Spirited Away and then keeps catching himself yawning and wants to sleep. He will not make his host eat dinner first, this time.

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That's so nice. Why is Atsinni so nice.

He doesn't wake up straight out of a nightmare this time, which is sort of like not having any.

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They are going to have breakfast, though. If there is any food around.

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The only thing that matters at all is the chance that their information will help rescue people. That's all. Nothing else matters. Or so he keeps repeating to himself in a doomed effort to avoid thinking anything else.

(Jess has a bunch of oatmeal and dried fruit on hand and does not in fact know enough to move her from her general habit of generosity.)

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Bowl of oatmeal, half an hour of typing with the first episode of Friends, and back to the zoo.

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The show is weird and alien and confusing and he dislikes it.

Are they going to see the butterflies again? There is no point in him having preferences about that. They can see whatever. He wonders if the animals are miserable being kept in cages. Maybe they don't even notice. They're freer than he can remember ever being.

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They can see the butterflies again. Then the lions.

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The butterflies are nice.

They'll have to be a little bit patient to see the lions, whose enclosure is vast and contains things that break line of sight, but they can also do that and anyway it's a nicely landscaped exhibit with a rock tower in the middle that they can eventually watch some of the lions climb.

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Lions are cool!

When Atsinni gets back he wants to know if he can get craft stuff anywhere. "I got kind of into embroidery."

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"Probably not in the middle of nowhere, I'd try a city with more than like a hundred people."

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"Oh well."

Back to the typing mines. Kung Fu Panda? How's that go over?

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He feels a sort of affectionate rage toward the person or people responsible for this plot. He has an impulse to burn them, but only first-degree burns and while visibly struggling not to smile. (With vastly different life experiences he might instead say "thanks, I hate it." Then again, with vastly different life experiences, that might not be his reaction in the first place.)

He thinks that reaction might be evil or something and he's kind of glum about that.

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Picky, picky. No sequel to Kung Fu Panda, then. What the heck is Slow TV?

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The first example of it Jess queued up for them is only an hour long, the uncut no-music almost-no-talking footage of a train trip from Myrdal to Flåm through a rugged landscape sparsely touched with snow and looking very open with all its trees bare beneath a blue sky. Sometimes the train spends five minutes or more at a time passing through dimly lit tunnels.

It doesn't compare to the butterflies but it's definitely better than almost all the experiences he's ever had and in the top half of experiences he's had in the last few weeks.

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Atsinni's human has weird taste. Slow TV it is. Type type type.

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The next thing on Jess's playlist is several hours of real-time sheep shearing, spinning and knitting. He doesn't like it at all because someone keeps explaining things and talking about things other people have supposedly done. It is kind of nostalgic, though.

(That's really the main thing the other one had going for it, was the lack of claims to worry about the truth value of.)

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Maybe they can skip this episode? Is the next one claim-free?

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It's a questionable number of hours of reindeer doing reindeer things.

It's great, though he'll definitely start to get slightly bored less than halfway through. He keeps mulling over whether these people are legit, and what it would mean for them to be legit, and whether Atsinni is finally doing something about the apparently plural hells or just being tricked. It does seem like telling demons about their own floor plan and instruments of torture is probably not something to worry very much about being tricked into doing?

But then on the other hand, there's basically no way Atsinni would bother to check if these people are, actually, more demons in disguise. So thinking about that probably falls to him, if Atsinni will bother to listen to his conclusions, if he can come to any conclusions, if he can figure out how to figure anything out at all.

He's getting very floaty again. He doesn't have a body or a connection to the world and he keeps looking at these pictures of things that aren't there. Purgatory feels like another world entirely, is another world entirely. The idea of figuring out the truth feels like an abstract puzzle. This is kind of objectively worrying and probably happening because he's stuck in an objectively terrible situation but, well, it does still beat his previous objectively terrible situation. And - previously the only thing he really endorsed caring about was doing something about the apparently fucking plural Hells, he was very bothered that Atsinni wasn't even trying, now Atsinni is trying, and there might be more he can do to support Atsinni in that or there might not be but if he's already being basically mostly used for the only thing he really endorses caring about then there's not that much point in him being a person or thinking about things from the perspective of someone who makes decisions, right? Maybe it's time to accept that this is the best he'll ever get.

The reindeer are nice.

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They can watch the entire reindeer episode, and then when it concludes knock off typing for lunch and a visit to the zoo. Do they have reindeer?

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The zoo has no reindeer. They seem to have gone all in on the giant lion exhibit, which is the size of several Earth-zoo-typical large animal enclosures. Besides that everything is small or comfortable in tight spaces - bearded dragons, snakes, a gila monster, butterflies, colorful and metallic tarantulas, rats, schools of glowlight tetras and bronze corydoras catfish... the closest things to other big exhibits are the fox enclosure and the coral reef tank, and arguably the botanical garden.

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Botanical garden next then.

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Why can't he just lie down in a position with a decent view of one of these plants and then stay there forever while Atsinni does whatever Atsinni wants to do. Why can't he leave this stupid body. Why can't he just be grateful that he's allowed to see this place at all.

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Well, Atsinni's willing to stare at a plant for a while.

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He doesn't endorse Atsinni time off of useful things for him but he's not entirely sure to what extent Atsinni just also likes nice things.

He keeps making basically fruitless attempts to bridge the gap between mathematical certainty and actually useful thoughts.

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Then they can go look at the aquarium!

Then more typing and Slow TV without voiceovers.

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The Amazon biotope tank is a couple hundred gallons, dark and shady-looking from the tannins in the water, planted with freshwater eelgrass. When they come near the glass without the dark water in the way some of the fish stand out vividly, blood red and gleaming blue cardinals and squiggle-patterned iridescent discus. The catfish digging around for worms have big wide-open eyes and tentacle whiskers whose resemblance to any pirate movie villains will be lost on people with Atsinni's extremely sparse pop culture background.

The reef tank is much bigger. It looks artificial, fish in flat colors that dyes have only recently been invented to mimic, bright blue light that looks even bluer filtered through the water, coral growing on an artistically uneven rock arch whose points of interest were definitely planned in advance by someone with a very modern education in image composition. Some black clownfish vibrate at each other.

As almost an afterthought, there a couple of twenty- and forty-gallon tanks containing creatures that were originally intended for one or another of the big ones, with little handwritten notes explaining why that didn't work out.

There are more hours of Slow TV in existence than it takes to finish typing up a reasonable summary of everything strategically useful Atsinni's host knows, at least without more specific questions.

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"Hey, I think I'm about done with the writeup."

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"Thank you. I still haven't made much progress toward having a Kandrona generator for you but I'm willing to keep being available for you until that happens, if you'll let me know enough about your plans to find you."

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"Zoo and TV will probably keep me occupied for a few days. I didn't have that long to acquire hobbies."