"That might be a frog? Frogs are amphibians, which means they go on land and in the water, and they have big back legs to jump with." Vaal hops as he describes that.

"Yes!"

Griffie would also like to know about:

• if there is a word for "thing that makes people afraid"
• if there is a special word for falling while spinning
• stuff that makes people sick that you might get if bitten by a hissing thing or if you eat the wrong plant or the very wrong rock
• a thing like clouds, but lower, that makes it hard to see
• seeing, but in a direction

Oh. Also are there words for holes in space? If there is not lots and lots of magic there might not be words?

Vaal speculates aloud as to whether Griffie wants to know that scary things are scary, or that things people worry about a lot are concerns... or that people kind of use the term "monster" that way sometimes, or maybe that's uncharitable...

"...When people spin they feel dizzy. People who feel dizzy sometimes fall over. But 'dizzy' is the feeling, not the fall."

He knows lots of words for weather phenomena and can volunteer kind of excessive detail.

"...Some species see in all directions at once but for most species you can talk to, all seeing is in a direction..."

He's not sure what Griffie is trying to describe as a hole in space.

"For scary things, a person who works for Ganon might be a scary thing, but a fire that burns your house or finding out that animals ate your food might also be a scary thing. Not a thing you worry about, a thing that is scary right now. I think it is not important to have the right word for the holes. And…" Griffie looks around. "I see a tower and a mountain and a Vaal." Ey turns to face the tower and away from Vaal for a moment. "I mmm a tower, I do not mmm a Vaal. Is there a word for this?"

"Face toward? Look at? You can face toward something even if you're blind, as long as you have a face. Looking at is trying to see, I guess."

"Thank you!"

And now Griffie will go back and forth with Vaal drafting a translation of a song, beginning with "I saw a bunch of frogs show up and it was scary! They fell through holes and made poison fog, but at least they're not dog monsters." …if 'monsters' can also be weird-looking evil people who don't work for Ganon too. Anyway. The second verse clarifies that there's very many frogs, the poison is spreading, it's hard to leave because there are so many frogs, they have too many eyes—"not true but the song says it"—and don't know where to look.

"There are two more parts but I like them less."

Vaal is confused by this, but ventures that actually arguably monsters aren't necessarily weird-looking or people, arguably they're just entities that those who follow Hylia routinely fight for their body parts.

...What exactly... is up with the frogs. This is not how frogs normally behave.

"Well, the people at the stable who are not Vaal say 'Vaal and bokoblins are evil', and Vaal looks like them, and bokoblins do not look like them, so it seemed like their rule is that people who are evil and do not look like them are monsters."

The song is not entirely clear on what is up with the frogs, but Griffie can clarify. "The frogs are people and are called 'Bythasilon frogs'. I learned they were people. People in Suaal used to think they were not because they could not talk to the frogs, but I am good at talking magic. When you do a kind of magic, if you do it wrong, then the frogs go to you, and they are scared because they do not want to be there, and they use poison because they are scared. But you can get useful parts from them without fighting them if you make them a place to live. Where they live, lots of animals want to eat them, so they have many eyes for seeing them, and poison for fighting them."

"Huh. Well, they sound cool, what's their society like?"

"They live in piles and fall-while-spinning. They talk about hard-to-say things all the time because the birds that want to eat them try to copy them, and that is why they became people, they think. They sort of eat from plants — when they 'eat' a plant the plant grows slower but doesn't lose pieces. They do weird time stuff, again to not be eaten. They are mostly female, and only the males make poison. They do not get to build things because they have to move too much and they keep being eaten."

"Oh. Uh. How sure are you that they're eating the plants and not just eating something the plants also eat?"

"I read it in a book that I think is true, and they do weird magic eating, not put-in-mouth eating."

"That's cool. Can they get the plants' powers out of them?"

"I don't think so."

"If someone else eats the plants after the frogs do, can they get the usual powers out of that?"

"Usual plants don't have powers?"

"Huh. Uh, here you can get powers from eating some plants if you cook them just right. Like, if I eat bananas raw, that's fine, but if I simmer the bananas first then eating them will make me stronger. - Simmering is a type of cooking involving liquid."

"You can in Suaal, but special plants, not most plants? Suaal bananas don't make you stronger. …but if you eat no food then you are weak and die."

"That too but it's a different thing."

"Yes. But I want to not make you make mistakes."

"Thanks."

"If we fight, then I will want to make you make mistakes. But I want to find better, and not fight."

"Yeah. ...That's why I haven't asked you to spar, which is where you fight but you don't really fight. You fight and everyone is alive afterward and you fight better later."

"Oh. If I did not think we may really fight, I maybe would want to spar."

Ahead of them, blue ooze rises from the dirt road and forms two giant quivering droplets each at least five feet across.