mad investor chaos Carissa lands on Elie
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"I don't even know what I'm looking for, honestly. I'd hire you, if I were hiring, but since it's 4699 I guess I'm really not, and also you'd refuse to work for me.

 

We were - trying to build an Asmodeanism you could believe while also believing true things and not lying to yourself."

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Oh no – is he – yes he is, he's going to burst into hysterical laughter. 

"That might be the most doomed plan I have ever heard," he eventually manages to wheeze. 

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"It did run into some hiccups. I -

 

 

- I think it does work for some people. I might have been able to succeed at being one of them. But I'd prefer Asmodeus lose, so, if that's actually an option, then I prefer it, and Abrogail might as well either present a reason it's not an option or take me apart." She says it again kind of warmly, like she wouldn't hold it against Abrogail either way.

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Élie is never going to get within a hundred miles of this woman if he can possibly avoid it. 

"It might work if you're actually at the very top of the heirarchy? Otherwise, it's like Hosetter said – none of the arguments for the benefits of slavery change the fact that every slave wants to be free and no free person wants to be a slave."  

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"I agree that Golarion doesn't have any places with enough freedom that they make people go 'no, actually I want less freedom than that' but I do think there are places like that out there."

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"Do you know some things I don't about Castrovel?"

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"Let's say that I do, and that Castrovel has a governing elite that lives lives near totally separate from the rest of the population, and advises them in the making of all their laws. And that Castrovel tried an experiment where some people lived among the governing elite, learned bits of what they knew, thought about it for themselves, and all ended up broken and miserable, from contemplating things beyond their capacities."

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"My first question would be who told you that and are they a member of the governing elite themselves?" 

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"Nope! One of the happy slaves."

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"And did he observe these miserable, broken people, or was he simply told by his masters that they existed?"  

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Sigh. "Let's also stipulate that their government actually credibly doesn't lie to them all the time."

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"Forgive my skepticism. In that case, my first guess would be that the Castrovelians are much more mentally fragile than we are. Or maybe their governing elite is descended from a different species and only interbreeds with itself so their minds just work fundamentally differently and they're concealing this fact from the common people for some reason – it would have to be a very different species, though, reading books by Elves or Gnomes doesn't drive humans mad. 

And then I'd say that even if learning what the elite know makes the Castrovelians miserable, they should still have the perfect right do so, if they like. I'm not exactly happy that I'm incapable of being an Asmodean. I have lived in terror all my life. I'll never be able to speak to my family again. I've had nightmares every night for the past decade about being burned alive. And I'd still rather know the truth, that isn't even a question. I'm more capable of carrying out my goals, I know what my goals even are, and I really think I'm smarter, because I'm not wasting half my mental energy trying to keep the other half under control. "Broken" is a loaded term. If you asked them, maybe they'd say they're fixed."

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"Wish you could meet my boyfriend. Too bad how he doesn't exist yet."

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"You're dating an eleven-year-old cleric of Abadar????"

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"No, he's like a month old, he materialized fully grown or depending how you look at it arrived here because of an afterlife malfunction after dying on Castrovel. I did warn you it was a long story."

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"Maybe when our great-great-and-then-some grandchildren are done fixing Golarion they'll have to go help the poor oppressed Castrovelians. As long as we're being ambitious."

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"So, I realize I can hardly lecture you on ambition, when you started a revolution against the government and I very much did not do that even when I had the opportunity to betray Cheliax cleanly and escape to safety. But. I don't think we need to wait for our grandchildren. If we're doing this at all I think we can get there in our lifetimes. - if my boyfriend materializes on schedule in 11 years. If not it's going to be harder but still, I would not want to die with it unfinished."

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"What does he know?"

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"How to make spellsilver much, much, much cheape, and fertilizer that makes land twice as productive."

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"....That's a weird set of things to know. How is it that his society has better spellsilver production but not much more advanced magic?"

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"No magic at all. Just lots of alchemy, which they use for nonmagical transportation and industry, and they're very, very wealthy."

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"Can they be contacted – I assume you tried, or you wouldn't be waiting eleven years – "

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"Unscryable, can't be reached even with a Gate, and also we think they might be run by a very powerful Evil conspiracy that'd conquer us immediately."

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He thinks – that might be worth it, if they can get Asmodeus too. 

"So, the boyfriend – how much did he teach you? What do you need to get started?"

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- okay, she likes this kid. "You need good measuring equipment for temperature and the ability to do things at very high pressures - so very good airtight containers - for fertilizer. We hadn't made a lot of progress yet because it'd only been a month. For spellsilver, we were making some progress on making acids more cheaply, and you can get higher purities if you use pure calcium rather than bone ash. But it was all preliminary. He was also trying to teach us - the principles of systemic alchemical experimentation that his society used to make progress. That was the part that was somewhat in tension with Asmodeanism.


Do you want to work with me on it?"

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