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And their opaque force-bubble now has a Quendi utterly insensible with excruciating pain! Out from under Sauron's illusion he is screaming in agony. 

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Leareth scoops Belrun into his arms, kisses her forehead. :That was quite impressive: 

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Telumë makes a sort of soft whimper, which isn't actually audible over Maitimo screaming. 

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Melody waits three seconds or so, starts to step toward the barrier. Stops. Looks at the Stefs. 

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Sure, they can switch to painblocking Maitimo directly and see if that works. 

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It seems to help. A bit. He is still in a lot of pain but enough he can think through it. 

 


He wonders vaguely what is going on. Is he rescued? Seriously? He is worried about Telumë - that will be really bad for Telumë -

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(Belrun snuggles up insofar as she can do that with very limited access to behaviors like 'moving at all'.)

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Melody reaches in with her Gift and scrambles Maitimo's senses enough that he won't get much out of hearing their voices or seeing things even if they take down the barrier - and won't have much success trying to stand up - and then skims through his mind looking for any hint of information about Sauron, and particularly about the Ring. 

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He went and found Sauron, who did not at the time have the One Ring, and explained the situation to him and said Velgarth magic could be used to get the Ring but Sauron would need to learn it first, probably by observation, and then he swore himself into a contradictory oath so that Sauron would get on that and not be distracted, and he has no idea how much magic Sauron has observed or anything else that has happened since he did that because completely unfathomable agony. 

 

The oath he swore was to not serve Sauron. This was mostly just because it was at hand but a little bit because it might make Telumë sad when executing him, if things shook out that way, which he mostly expected they would.

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:Does anyone object to my knocking him out for a bit?: Melody sends to everyone who's a Mindspeaker or equipped with osanwë. :Elrond, he - swore a contradictory oath, apparently, is that a thing, does it normally, er, have this effect...?: 

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You are supposed to never ever do that but I have not actually witnessed its effects firsthand. ...probably? You'd be - ripping your soul apart - please do knock him out -

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:Goodness. Just a minute, I'm trying to poke to get the wording of it, I want to check if it was for a certain time or until Sauron released him or what, I don't think he would do that to himself permanently...: 

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A week. He finally notices the Mindhealing despite all the noise in his head, thinks at Melody that she should make him unconscious if it's going to take two hours of Findekáno yelling at him to get Telumë to agree to kill him - not because this state is actually intolerable, by comparison it's doing really well and he's perfectly happy, but because it's got to be really awful for Telumë and that's the one part of his motivation system that isn't being agonizingly yanked as far as a mind can bear it in two directions -

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....wow. 

Melody renders him unconscious. "I can't keep him this way for all that long without it being bad for him and I need to stay here, but it's not tiring, I can do a few candlemarks. Stef, er, both of you, maybe get some rest now?" 

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The older Stef nods gratefully and leads his littler self off. 

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"So does he know if Sauron has the Ring?"

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"Sauron didn't have the Ring three days ago. Maitimo thought it was gettable with Velgarth magic, suggested Sauron do some observing. Doesn't know what happened in the interim. I...expect he doesn't have it. Since it looked like he was doing reconnaissance out there, which would make sense for observing our magic, and I think he'd have switched to, er, something else, if he had obtained it." 

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"That seems right to me although I'd really like to be more sure than 'probably'." 

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"- if he just got enough demonstration of Fetching - I doubt he did because I remain confident he can't see into Imladris - could he Fetch the Ring - is there anyone who could do it first, into the fires of Orodruin, I think that'd kill him -"

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"Mmmmaybe if Leareth boosted me?"

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Belrun is so good, Leareth squeezes her a little. 

"I do not know what or where the fires of Orodruin are," he says. "Human Fetchers cannot usually Fetch an object unless they know where it is, and exactly the destination is, and there is a range limitation. Though the ring is small, I assume, which would make it easier. ...Sauron would be less limited, one assumes, if he learned it." 

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"I would worry about whether Fetching the Ring counts as picking it up." 

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Thinking is hard right now and she is tired and snuggled.

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"That does seem like a worry. Orodruin is a very large magical volcano south of here. I can point it out on a map, but you'd need to be precise. And it does seem possible the Ring would - hijack a Fetching and show up here, to catastrophic effect." Sigh. "Maybe Sauron - split himself, searching for it - most Maiar can't do that but it'd explain why you saw him in two places -"

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"I think we'd better let Belrun and the Stefs rest, and regroup later, I'll keep watching Sauron with scrying - in both places - so we've got warning if he does anything weird. Would the ring show up magically to scrying, do we think?" 

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