I mean, yes, that's not what I meant.

What do you mean?

Knowing all the specific things that happened to him rather than just the abstract of being tortured and having hallucinations of rescue would probably be traumatic?

Also I suspect he'd rather not share.

Yeah. And I feel like neither the human nor Elven mind was built to hold the amount of negative emotion that would be necessary to be an amount of horrified proportionate to what happened.

I don't think there's any specific torture that would upset me over and beyond the outcome.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I know what resulted. I find that however horrifying I find it. I don't think I'd be additionally horrified to get more details about how that outcome was produced.

Oh. I see what you mean. I think my point about what happened was more--I can see the outward effects, but I don't think as it stands I get how bad it is inside his head.

Yeah, trying to get a better picture of that is probably unwise.

Yeah.

I think it caused a brief improvement of emotional state, the first time he did magic.

I bet. Your magic's amazing.

It is!

And defeating Melkor is pretty important.

It is.

We found some books. It always takes the Valar five hundred years to get around to it.

Huh. So, about fifty years from now?

Yes. But they're an ugly fifty years.

I mean, it's kind of moot now that we're here, but it does make me wonder if they would have anyway even if I kept the ugly from happening...

So, um, do you have any advice for telling and/or Definitely Not That the Ozymandians that the guy I got to hold the door is Beren.

I doubt they hold much of a grudge against him personally.

It seems like it could be an awkward surprise.

Yes, but safe to mention.

Probably still awkward but less so.

I sincerely expect them to regard him as a fellow victim.

Okay.

I have no idea if I should go out of my way to make sure he meets Luthien or to make sure that never happens.