At the End of All Things Elves in Revelation
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"Yeah I didn't actually ask that question - they have a very low crime rate, maybe it actually literally never came up, but as described it did not metaphysically discriminate."

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"I think people will be sold on not doing that to their kids."

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"Hopefully."

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More sightseeing! It's such a pretty castle.

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And when she has had her fill of castle and Elves he will look up demon-assisted fertility clinics.

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There are twenty-three of them! Four are in L.A.; they're also popular in China and Korea.

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He doesn't have Korean. He starts with the ones he can talk to first.

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"By law we're not allowed to use DNA from a living person without their written and notorized consent," says the receptionist at the first clinic, "and we were advised by our legal office to stop using DNA from dead persons as well, once the whole afterlives thing came out."

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"Great, that's very good to hear. In the unlikely event you get ahold of an Elf willing to notarize consent please be exquisitely clear about what parental rights they can expect, they will expect more than a comparable human by default."

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"I'll make a note. Thank you for calling Miracle!"

Next four places have the same policy. The one after that says "our clinic provides a safe environment for new families to arrange for fertility assistance. The arrangements are between the families and the daeva involved."

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"There are potentially serious negative externalities associated with the possibility of Elf children or Elf hybrids," Cam says.

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"I'm sorry?"

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"If somebody wants Elf kids that has more serious ramifications than if someone wants Einstein's kids."

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"There are a lot of people concerned about the implications of letting people have Einstein's kids, too."

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"I would be very sympathetic if Mr. Einstein chose to complain. But that's not what I'm calling about. Elves have different afterlife outcomes from humans; if humans can have Elf children at all that will be part of the result. Half-elves have special cased characteristics selected by divine intervention. Inviting divine intervention is a bad idea. And any specific Elf whose genes are used will find this much more violating than a comparable human."

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"...do you want to speak to my manager?"

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"I would love to speak to your manager."

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There's a pause. "Uh, Bob? Revelation's on the phone and he's talking about Elves and inviting divine intervention and -"

"Revelation?"

"I mean, I suppose anyone could say that. Bit more coherent than most of the eugenics doomsday callers, though."

Sigh. "Hello? This is Robert with Love and Life Family."

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"Hello, Robert, I'm Cam, if it would help in any way for us to work out a way for me to prove that I'm happy to do so, I'm calling to advise that you write into your demons' bindings that they are not to make Elf DNA."

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"I was not aware that Elves even have DNA."

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"It's possible they don't! There are so many reasons not to try finding out that I have avoided doing so, and while I understand that there are also lots of reasons to find Elfhood tempting for one's offspring it is a very bad idea to let people go for that."

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"What sort of problems might arise for the families doing that?"

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"If they get full Elves, well, for one thing they take fifty years to grow up, but apart from that if they die - still possible for them to die of accident or violence - then instead of going to a daeva afterlife or Limbo they will float around as a disembodied soul until they find the Vala of the dead, who might choose to leave them disembodied indefinitely or reembody them and forbid them from leaving Valinor at his unchecked discretion. Additionally, Elves whose genes are used will take even more exception than nonconsenting human genetic relatives. Half-Elves have existed in the past but many of their characteristics are inconsistent and seem chosen through divine intervention, which it is deeply unwise to invite."

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"...I can tell people that we don't think attempting that will produce healthy babies?"

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"I don't think you should give anyone the idea if they didn't already have it, I think you should write it into your demons' bindings. I have taken the liberty of writing up a variant on your circle template which I would be more than happy to send to you."

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