At the End of All Things Elves in Revelation
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" - if only there were a way to only give them a specific language," he says excitedly.

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"The PR-cost to real-value ratio seems very low here."

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"You're such a spoilsport, Nelyo. What's the point of being evil if you can't even do dubious psych experiments on babies?"

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"It wouldn't be that nice to the brand new daeva, either, some people are wild about babies but not all of 'em."

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"I wouldn't imprison people," he says, sounding horrified. "If they didn't want to raise babies for science they wouldn't have to."

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"Ah, of course, my mistake. Brand-news usually don't know what they're into yet though."

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"If they're adult humans with no prior exposure to language it's bizarre they can learn it at all, adult humans don't have the brain plasticity to be brand new."

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"Getting summoned for a first language is easier but didn't use to be feasible and someone has to communicate with them enough to get them to try it."

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"But it's possible without getting summoned? With an adult non-daeva human it wouldn't be."

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"Is this data from studies on deaf kids or something? How do you otherwise get adults with no language without confounding neglect?"

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"But even if they weren't neglected per se they'd presumably have some accumulated home signs, plus years of noticing everybody else could talk and they were missing something..."

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"And yet if not exposed to a signed language by age ten or so they can't pick one up at all later, and if they get implants they can't pick up a spoken one either."

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"But a new daeva isn't ten. They're adults in the sense that they have adult impulse control and motor skills and sexual maturity and attention spans and bodies and so on but they're new. - Do deaf kids not exposed to sign ever manage to learn to read -"

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"The question is whether a new daeva has the brain plasticity of an adult. And the populations where this occurred were illiterate ones."

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"Well, new daeva can learn languages."

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"So then maybe they do."

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"Maybe. Inconveniently there is no way for you to talk to one who hasn't done so yet."

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"Could have a baby summon one!!"

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"I thought you were anti-imprisoning-people-for-science."

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"I am not sure why you're imagining that summoning people involves keeping them if they want to go home."

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"If a baby summons them you can't send them back promptly. Unless you want to kill the baby."

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"You could get a baby who was dying anyway?"

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"I guess."

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"Do we have a ship design?"

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