"Wasn't under the impression he decided to do it of his own free will," murmurs Cam.

"He didn't. It was what I'd want and it was a fucking dangerous phrasing - no leeway - I can tell him you knew that."

Or you could go die in a fire, she does her best to suggest through body language.

"Advantage to killing you now is you can't fuck with him further."

"Yeah. He's under really light orders right now, it's not a bad time for it if you're sufficiently confident you won't get evicted and you don't care how terrified he is of you - because he'll be terrified of you, I don't do summary executions for crimes committed outside my jurisdiction and until he heard about the -"

"I told you to shut the fuck up."

"Until he heard about scarier things I was his benchmark for scary people not literally working for the Enemy."

"Hey, Bar. Hypothetically, if someone kills someone else in Milliways, are they evicted, or what?"

Cam writes his Maitimo a little note - To the extent you have influence over him you should spend it on Findekáno not me and to the extent you don't you're just painting a target on me.

Within the main bar area, that would be typical absent some kind of extenuating circumstance.

He would need, like, an actual pen and paper to write back to Cam. So he can't say that, yes, point taken, but to the extent he has influence it's in the common ground they're tentatively establishing right now - it's not a 'I have so much and I can spend it' thing, this is a Fëanorian, we won't get anywhere if he's not confident we're trading rather than bullying -

"Would it get anyone else kicked out too, or just the person who did it, and what counts as an extenuating circumstance?"

"Are they both yours?"

"They'll both probably listen to me if I tell them to back off, yes - though I had to swear that I wasn't like you - do you know how painful it is to realize that you need to offer people you care about assurance that you're not something they'd be disgusted they knew -"

"Not into men, or not into hurting them?"

"Is consent just not a concept your world has or something."

"...not really? But I don't have a deficit, I could have figured it out, I just don't see why I should."

"Makes sense, if the only people more powerful than you were the Maiar and Valar and therefore in some respects beneath your contempt. But now the stage is bigger, now you're going to need it."

"Really compelling introduction, this."

(Bar answers Edie: If the perpetrator were acting on the clear authority of another party that patron too would be shown out. Uninvolved or less authoritatively involved guests would not be punished.)

"I can't help you if you're sleeping with someone you've got under obedience oaths, I just can't. I'm not that gifted, together we're not that gifted, I can walk a really narrow line but that's not giving me anything at all to stand on. There's someone here who might be able to clear oaths up. Let him do that, promise me you won't just pick the next of the thousand avenues available to you to get him in bed without making him want you -

- and then win him back - you've got centuries in here, you've got projects to plan, you're not going to get a better chance and think about the implications of a multiverse, you cannot have forever, not like this -"

"And you and your friends swear not to use your magic on either of us, here or anywhere else, and not to place any conditions on the technology you give us, and not to enable or assist or be a party to efforts to remove me from power -"

"I can try but they're really upset with you and in my culture oaths that are binding over future action are really taboo -"

"Then I'm unclear on what you're offering."