Let me know if I can help with something non-suicidal there.

If you have a way of getting the layout - really small mapping automata or something -

Even with the goggles there's a limit to how small I can write, I couldn't likely get anything useful smaller than a shrew, doubt it'd go unnoticed... shades maybe, though, it'd be tedious as fuck but they could do it -

Can you hand over some of the tedious work to someone whose time we need less desperately?

Yeah, it'd mostly be programming and then watching the shades when they came back. 'Course, if the Enemy figures out what the shades are doing or just suspects he wouldn't like it he can have the kids co-opt them - and now that this idea has occurred to me we need to write tiny stopping instructions all around our perimeter so he can't send shines or shades at us -

Right. That first.

It honestly might be worth doing even without a way to get him out.

Mercy kill?

We've found escaped or released prisoners. Most of them want to die, the ones who don't want to die it's because they don't believe they're really talking to you....Mandos will not send our Maitimo back to us but he'll send the Noldor back their King, and the less damage he has to undo first...

This would be a much easier question with a higher quality god of death. But yeah, I follow the logic.

Let's set up a perimeter and then see if we can get anywhere by spying with shades.

Yeah.

Kib delegates the perimeter; it just needs to be really tiny writing to keep out even really tiny intruders, total program cancellation, anything sent in will just accumulate cleared of instructions at the border and they can reuse it themselves if they want. He outlines parameters for telling shades to trace the shapes of Angband and then turn around and come home and repeat the dance in the confines of a box drawn on the floor; go as far as they can within the box, scoot around on the edge to the far side, draw another box's worth. They'll have to be bridged over the program cancellation border or the box will have to be outside of it.

He makes shades.

And he goes back to his talking golem.

Lári is now a toddler. With aggressive coaching from Feanáro she can make shines. It's a good harvest and the Noldor can afford to export food to everyone else in the region. Some of the locals are interested in living behind their walls. They trade Doriath golems and the Dwarves everything they know. 

They have a map of Angband. 

Findekáno gradually relents on working himself half to death. 

You shouldn't trust this map too far. If he has good intel and noticed the shades he could have spoofed it.

Yeah, understood. 

The harder question is whether to trust what Maitimo says, when I'm in osanwe-range of him.

Don't know what to tell you there.

He stares blankly at the wall.

Yep.

Are you going to be okay if I don't come back?

Define okay.

Does that need to be a consideration in planning my operation to rescue and or murder my boyfriend and my King without wrecking everything he'd want me fighting for.

I'll function.

Aydanci'll grow up eventually, I can't go completely to pieces, I don't even want to go to pieces on reflection so I won't.

He pulls him closer. Okay. 

Aydanci won't even take eventually, he's already walking and talking. Maitimo used to get updates on that and now they go through me.

Pretty eventual from a human perspective, but yeah. Dream ordering's more of a crapshoot.

If we both come back from Mandos I'm not sure how much he'll let us remember. I'd appreciate it if you told us, if it's not very much.

Of course.