"...why wouldn't everybody still get two kids?"

"- everyone's accounting for people dying. If everybody dies, and everybody has two kids, the population stays the same. But if a billion people move to Voa, the population doubles, and if you think Voa only has room for a billion people then they can only have one each to make it go back to that in the long run. And it's still too crowded in the short run."

" - huh. Is Voa where everybody would move to if they could?"

"It's hard to get into because a lot of people want to go there. They guarantee two children per family, most places don't do that. Most places auction credits."

"Huh.

If you could pick a country which one would you pick?"

"Do I get to retroactively have always been orange if I pick a matrilineal one? Are we assuming I have to learn the language?"

"How long does it take your species to learn languages?"

"Depends on the individual. I have no reason to think I'm any good at it, so probably at least a season if I were focusing almost exclusively on that, which I couldn't be because I'd need a job and stuff."

" - you can't just spend a season learning a language?"

"...not if I want to have a place to live and so on - I mean, in credit countries there are usually good social services but I think that'd probably break down some if they had a lot of immigration -"

"Oh, you need money to get a place to live?"

"Yeah. I live with my family still because I don't make enough to move out. I'd have to get a job that paid better if I wanted my own place."

"That sounds bad for people who don't want to do a job. Or don't like any of the jobs that are their color. Or want to have a baby, which apparently all of you do.'

"It's bad for the first two groups of people... people do manage to have babies while they work."

" - but that's terrible."

"I thought you said your dad was the king."

"And people think that's why I am such a terrible child and even then he doesn't have work very often."

...hug.

"Well. It's pretty normal here for people to work while they have babies. Sometimes they bring the babies to work."

"Elves mostly don't work until the children are all grown up."

"That sounds really nice. It wouldn't work very well here but some people might do it in Voan style countries."

"I think it is nice unless the baby is a very stressful baby who makes their parents miserable. Then maybe it is better if they work."

"...I think most people even if their baby is very difficult would rather be with their baby than at work."

"I meant for the baby. It is not very fun to be small and making your parents miserable."

"I think most people are not miserable about their babies. Maybe our aunts and uncles and grandparents visit more than Elves' ones do?"

"Maybe. My parents' parents are dead."