Narcis nods at Enric's "right to your family" idea. And again at the one about not being tortured.

Xavier is going to let some of his moral objections to Victoria's plan leak to his face so other people will feel safer having moral objections to Victoria's plan.

She doesn't think everyone has a right not to be tortured but apparently they're just supposed to be listing things right now, not arguing about them.

"I fear we're going to skip something just because we're not worried about it, and then in a few generations our grandchildren are going to be dealing with the Queen's and it'll be a different world... right to not be turned into an undead, right to be ransomed back if taken prisoner, right to not be Maledicted."

The Archduke is in fact opposed to the first two but they can argue about that later.

Oh, this feels exciting, proposing these. The age of glory! But If he forgets about any rights now he might not get another chance. Rights, rights, rights...

"A right to the woods, for hunting and firewood. A right to good loans instead of evil loans. A right to buy food for normal prices at a market instead of having to go buy from baron when your crop fails and then going into debt to him. A right to have your debts taken away if they were like that, maybe a good priest can judge. A right to not have to pay taxes that the tax collector just makes up, just the real ones. A right to know where your family is and if they're still alive, if they get taken away to the army. A right to a good baron instead of an evil one. A right to go to Andoran instead of living in Cheliax. A right to get married to a man even if he's a noble's son and doesn't want to acknowledge the kid. A right to choose whether to be paid in coins or paper or in kind. A right to form a village militia if the baron isn't protecting you from monsters. Or get a new baron."

He's losing his breath, but there have to be more rights. Is there anything from those pamphlet readings that he's forgetting. But Soler is right, they're going to miss one. "Wait, what about a right to put new rights in here, if it turns out we forgot one?"

"Right to property - to not have your property arbitrarily seized by the government, I mean - seems actually important, but I don't know the right wording so that the government can still, you know, collect taxes." She's not personally invested in this because she, personally, does not have any property anymore, but hey.

"...right to think your own thoughts. Possibly."

"Well, surely if someone is going around detecting thoughts, and your thoughts are, I'm going to set that house on fire, that's got to be some kind of punishable offense, you can't wait till they actually do it if you already happen to know. - and we can't have a right to paper money, turned out it was Evil."

"How about a right to try and not go to hell? Let people who are going to get executed donate money to a good church and spend a year working for them and repenting, first, in case that helps."

"The right to not be forced to do evil. The right to only be executed for things you did, not things someone else did. The right to have the undead of you destroyed if you end up as one. The right to be turned back into a human if a fairy or archmage turns you into a frog or kobold." Enric thought that last one just happened in stories but he's met people in the city who said it happened to them last week.

"The right to know your rights, by sending someone to say them to everyone not just in writing."

"The right to own slaves," says an elected delegate who until now had not done anything of note.

"I don't think there's enough halflings to go around for that one."

"Well, the right to not have your slaves taken away from you, at any rate. But I wouldn't mind spreading them around a little, there's lots of dead nobles with more slaves than they needed."

"I think there's a different committee discussing that one."

No one on that committee should have ever been let anywhere near the convention. "I don't see why we can't discuss it too."

"Some kind of rule against when you may go looking for people's thoughts, perhaps. I agree we need some precautions there."

"I doubt very much that the committee on slavery is going to suggest we permit it, or that the convention will reject their suggestion. I would rather not submit a conflicting recommendation."

"Right to... Oh, I don't know the right format or whether this is something the government can even do anything about, but as long as we're listing everything that's worth discussing, I want to think about whether there's something to be said about fathers abandoning obligations to their children. And mothers, but there are many more children without fathers than without mothers, and the children are certainly being deprived of something."

"The right to a father either beneficial or dead? I don't know the format either."

"We definitely need to put that one in. Rights for orphans too. I don't know how to say 'let them stay with relatives, don't let someone just take them to the city if all the guy cares about is an orphanage that pays for anyone who brings orphans big enough to work."

Enric is just ignoring slavery guy. The archduchess seems to have him handled.

"...so, is that enough rights? That's a lot. Even if there are more, we should maybe debate what we have, now, and get a more manageable list before we add more."

"Yes, this will be a few days work sorting through. Unless there are last objections, we can hand out copies of the list and read them for anyone unlettered." 

Maybe he ought to learn to read at least a little. He knew how once, enough to make it through school without getting some ghastly infection from the whippings, and then promptly forgot it all as irrelevant diabolist hideousness.

Enric gives an apologetic look to the invisible servant writing down all these rights. He went a bit overboard coming up with as many as he could, didn’t think about how someone had to write down everything he said.

"Then I think we can go ahead. Here's the list I have so far."

Proposed Rights, Continued

- Right not to punish others except as terms of employment

- Right to preserve family; no intrusion on marriage by lords, no conscription of children

- Right to the proceeds of labor

- Limits on time of indenture or conscription

- Ban on torture

- Right to stay on land even if taxes exceed savings

- Right for victim to carry out punishment (dangerous?)

- Right not to be made undead

- Right to be ransomed when captured

- Ban on maledictions

- Right to hunt and collect firewood in the woods

- Right to good loans (?), and forgiveness for loans seen unfair in a judge's sight

- Right to reasonable food prices in emergencies

- Right to contest and refuse taxes claimed illegally by collectors

- Right to know the status of your family when separated (difficult to do)

- Right to a good baron (?)

- Right to leave Cheliax

- Right to compel a father to marry their child's mother

- Right to choose which currency to be paid in (including in kind)

- Right to form a village militia against the dangers of monsters and outlaws if not competently protected

- Right to keep property (requires care to permit taxes)

- Right to your own thoughts (with some caveats for legitimate investigation)

- Right to attempt to achieve salvation before execution (donations, labor for a Good church, etc.)

- Right not to be compelled to do Evil

- Ban on capital punishment for being an accessory or accomplice

- Right to have undead forms destroyed

- Right to be returned to human if polymorphed

- Right to know your rights (even if illiterate)

- Right of children and mothers not to be abandoned by their fathers (and vice versa where applicable)

- Rights of orphans (extended family before paid orphanages, etc.)

"Also, I don't think this is properly a right, but as delegates Soler and Porras suggested, we ought to have some procedure for adding more rights later. I'm inclined to recommend that the convention write a procedure for calling a future, smaller convention to add additional rights."

Social gladiatorial combat considerations, although she likes this group much more than the one tasked with rooting out diabolists:

Delegate Ferrer has some insane rights on there, and she did catch that the Archduke of Sirmium is extremely bothered by them. However, Ferrer is also on the rooting out diabolism committee and Korva would like not to be immediately declared a diabolist. On the other hand, Ferrer also has one really good right that Korva can speak in defense of while they're working out the details (right to your own person). 

Her best bet, socially, would be to give measured criticism of the Erecuran, but his only rights were right to travel and right to appeal cases to a church, neither of which is especially insane. She likes Delegate Porras, and doesn't want to antagonize him or weaken his position relative to the more powerful people in the room, but he has a lot of rights and is clearly not specifically attached to most of them. Delegate Arguata is an easy target, but the Archduchess (who put a right to speech on there by! her! self!) already shut him down.

.....she's going to go for Ferrer, because she thought of a line she can't resist using.

"Against a victim's right to carry out their own justice. That a six year old girl physically cannot kill a man who rapes her does not mean he should survive an execution for it."

"A smaller re-convening be needed for other additions to the constitution too, not just rights, so it should be general."