"...is that complicated for people?"

" - well, let's say I could steal a lot of money and buy a credit, that would make me very happy but it wouldn't be right. I think being happy and being good should not compete in an ideal society but often do in the real world."

"No I mean figuring out what makes them happy like you said."

"Oh. I mean, not on the big things, but on smaller things, yes, I think lots of people find it hard to figure out what makes them happy. You can't sample all the experiences so you know which ones are worth it, and some people have a hard time noticing things."

"Poor people."

"I suppose. They do all right."

"...that seems like it would be very hard if they can't notice things."

"Having a hard time with something isn't the same as not being able to do it at all, and as long as there are good defaults you can be happy being a default kind of person."

"Are most people default kinds of people?"

"Enough of them that having good defaults is really important. Maybe not a majority. Permissions systems discourage being a default sort of person and I think succeed at that, so maybe lots of people are only default sorts of people if the default is good and makes them happy, which hardly counts."

Nod.

"Have they taught you in school yet that permissions systems are bad?"

"Only with like, stories."

"I guess you are all a little young for the histories."

"They are stories with very clear morals. I asked and a teacher said often little blues are tempted to do things like permissions systems because we think we are so smart, and we need lots and lots of stories to pile up and tell us not to."

"It seemed to people like it would be a good idea until they tried it and they failed. It would have been a noble thing to try, even, if they had tried in one province instead of taking over the world."

"And now lots of people are stuck."

"Yep."

"Why can't they unstick?"

"Well, in a permissions system country everyone in power has the means to get their grandchildren children and also uses the permissions they distribute to do all the other things they want. They wouldn't benefit from changing things, even if everyone else would."

"Grrr."

"I guess phrased that way it seems - evil, instead of just helpless. But no one person could change it even if they wanted to, so any one person doesn't even have to be evil."

"In some of the stories some of the people sell their credits, they can do that by themselves."

"Yes, they can. But giving them out to worthy people isn't much worse and feels much more satisfying..."

Nod.