"...those things are very dumb."

"Yes."

"Most opinions most people have are very dumb so people tend not to listen to random foreigners with opinions about their laws."

"So they don't even know that people want them to stop killing babies because that would take more attention than they pay?"

"I imagine many of them know but it is in the same category as 'many people believe in oystrology'."

"...it doesn't work, does it? The oyster thing?"

"I cannot say I have personally investigated it but I don't think anyone's ever conducted a convincing study."

"Okay."

"Anyway, there are lots of moral opinions to be had, you can't really correct - narrowness in your own view - just by listening to all the stupid ones other people have."

"How do you do it then?"

"I am not sure."

"Oh."

"I can't say I've given it a lot of thought. I think I am just right about ethics."

"Well how did you do that?"

"I don't think figuring out what is good is very hard. Figuring out how to accomplish it is absurdly hard."

"If it's not hard why can't people do it?"

"It's probably hard for them. We're blue. Alternately, they might not be trying to figure out what is good, in particular."

"...then what are they trying to do?"

"Figure out what makes them happy, often? Or what impresses people, or what intelligent people believe."

"Hmmm."

Pat.

"Those could all be important too but you have to do more than one thing."

"Yes, it's good to know both what beliefs you should pretend to have and what beliefs you actually have instead of thinking those should be the same."

"And how to be happy."

"And that."