" - I would phrase the problem as 'someone is suffering a lot, and also inconveniently the form this takes is one that modern societies have a very strong taboo on because having a very strong taboo on it dramatically reduces the rate of all kinds of problems, and yet more inconveniently one of the ways strong taboos are enforced is by being really appalled at violations even if they're committed by people who couldn't have been deterred by your taboo because they have been planet-shuffled by mysterious possibly-snakes.

And the solution is just 'find ways of expressing your defiance of the Valar which involve less suffering and which won't run you into this problem'. I actually bet we've invented lots of things they'd disapprove of, going off, uh, descriptions." 

"I don't want to stop having sex with people who want to have sex with me just because they're prisoners."

"Well, now that the war's over they aren't prisoners, right? So you're fine."

"I wasn't doing anything wrong before, either."

"His Beka is happier," says the other Macalaurë.

" - look, if you'd known any of this your military would have rules about conduct towards prisoners which meet the standards for that sort of thing, and then you wouldn't be trying to swim through a random alien taboo that makes no sense. Before the next time your military takes prisoners you should have those written up. But you didn't, and without that, sure, you're trying to invent something from scratch that was very much not invented from scratch in most civilized societies, and you're trying to generalize from a single-digit number of wildly atypical situations, and that's just a bad way to come up with military procedures."

"But you know better."

"Well, yeah, we've been at it longer."

"Wait, why am I happier? Did I miss something?"

"I didn't touch my Beka because of the thing where it is evil to have sex with people who can't turn you down."

"...you coulda said 'I will back off if you want' and then she coulda turned you down."

"I don't think that's supposed to be good enough."

"...why?"

" - she might not believe me, or she might think that I really wouldn't rape her but I'd be more inclined to have her killed, later..."

"Why wouldn't she believe you? ...and what's wrong with the second thing -"

" - well, if you say to someone 'have sex with me or I'll kill you', that's bad, right, so if that's the situation then it's bad even if you don't say it outright."

"...so don't kill her."

"Yes but even threatening would be bad."

"...so also don't threaten to kill her?"

"I think the idea is that if you're allowed to kill her, like if she's your prisoner, then you're always sorta a little bit threatening to kill her."

"...okay but it's really annoying to not get laid. Like really."

"Yeah. I don't actually know if I did it right."

"Rules designed to make sure that no one rapes anyone and that no one does anything which is externally indistinguishable from raping people will sometimes fail to address any of the problems that anyone involved actually cares about, and this is probably more true when you've got those but not standards for treatment of prisoners of war generally, or when you're in a ridiculous situation like fighting an evil god who is just trying to be maximally evil in every way."

Beka hugs Local Macalaurë.

Her Macalaurë looks very slightly put out. "This all still feels like just imposing ethics anywhere you can even knowing that sometimes it'll fuck everything up."