"Okay," says Shell Bell, "so is that you telling me that if I want to know about you, I should stop talking to you and go ask someone else?"
Bell has never had a jelly bean before. They don't... exactly... look like food. An hour ago she wouldn't have turned down anything that might be food. At this moment, she says, "What are they made of?"
He picks one out of a bowl—electric blue—and pops it in his mouth.
He's probably not going to poison her. Milliways frowns on that sort of thing. "I'll try one if you're offering," she says.
She pops it into her mouth. She's not really sure if she's supposed to chew on it or not, so at first she doesn't. It's... weird. Sorta fruity, though Bell's ability to identify fruits is not what it would be if she'd had more dietary variety. But it tastes like sugar, mostly, and sugar, mostly, is good. "Interesting," she says, after going on to chew it and having dispatched it completely.
"So my template is famous for becoming Empress of assorted magical empires," Bell says. "If I ask people about the Joker will they know I mean you specifically, or are there lots of you by that name who've got a reputation for something?"
"I've only met the one of me, and he went by Alice. Haven't heard of any others. Could be, though."
"So why will they know who I'm talking about? Are you just here a lot?"
"If they've heard of me, they'll know, and if they haven't they won't," he says reasonably.
Bell's becoming less interested in this conversation now. If she were still nine, she'd be hanging around and keeping him talking and throwing manipulative looks at the jelly beans. That was years ago. "Well, yes. I think that's how that works."
"I usedta be famous," he adds, taking another jelly bean and repeating the inviting gesture. "Back home. You meet somebody from Gotham, two thousand eightish, they'll tell you all about me."
And this conversation has begun to interest her again so she sits down.
"Mmm. Well, there's a lotta ways I could tell that story," he says. "You the squeamish type? Bet you're not."
"I'm not," Bell agrees. She's pretty sure no one from Panem who doesn't actually faint during the Games broadcasts is "squeamish" by normal standards. She gets woozy around blood, but only in person - it's the smell, not the sight of it.
He takes another jelly bean, invites her to have some more again, and settles back a little on his bench.
"The really short version," he says, "is I'm a retired terrorist. But I think you'd rather have the details. Am I right?"