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There are a lot of Amentan countries. Vanda Nossëo representatives are dispatched to all of them. These Elves (two with black hair, one with silver) take a shuttle down from the lightleaper to a country called Calado, and radio ahead to request permission to land at a elegant modern spaceport.
okay by comparison Voa and Tapa look like thriving modern democracies
None of those people thought their exceptions were stupid. No one ever does. There are no exceptions.
Uh, there should be another way to not starve and have kids. That is a concerning but not disqualifying fact about House contracts.
...what happens if someone commits a crime against a red, or if a red commits a crime?
Elf immigration officials are reading their applications. Submitting a way for them to contact you with followup questions is a good idea.
- Does being able to pick a different House count?
- There aren't any crimes against reds and if reds commit crimes the cops take care of them without bothering a judge.
- Does email count?
...depends whether they collude or anything.
...so it's legal to torture and murder reds?
Email counts.
- People are unsure how much they do that.
- ...it's not illegal. You could get got for disruption of services or pollution violations if you were careless though.
- Here are some emails.
"...that's horrifying," says an Elf at the reds answer.
"What do you even have a society for if it's not illegal to murder innocent people?"
"I think maybe Amentans aren't suited to live with Elves if they don't think torture and murder should be illegal."
"They probably don't all think that. We've said how we do the voting so probably the ones who want to live with us are ones who are all right with the fact Elves think that's horrifying."
"...maybe."
No, but if they want to immigrate they will be allowed to and torturing and murdering them will not be allowed.
- the no torturing and murdering them is one thing but Elves can't just make the entire universe uninhabitable, that would be an atrocity.
Elves are very eager to find an arrangement that keeps everybody comfortable, but this will probably require some concessions on the part of non-red Amentans, like letting them vote and paying them adequate hazard pay for their contaminating work and treating them as people. They are after all asking red Amentans to make the extraordinary concession of not travelling freely or emigrating, ever, despite the existence of abundant societies that would treat them better.
- Is that a threat.
- Are they trying to extort Amenta into doing stuff they want or else the universe gets made uninhabitable forever.
- That's evil, the aliens are evil, aaaaaaaah.
By Elven standards it is not a threat to say you won't prevent someone else from exercising their legal rights even if it will make other people sad if they do.
- But the reds don't have those legal rights because like hell is anybody going to vote to be a member state if they have to let them run amok.
Maybe all the reds can leave and go live some place that doesn't hate them, and then member state votes can happen with that out of the equation?
They are sure something can be worked out that is better for everyone than having reds here where it is legal to torture and murder them. Maybe everyone except people who like to torture and murder them, those people are going to be shit out of luck because something is deeply wrong with this species.
...they can let every planet vote whether it wants to be a planet for reds or for clean Amentans, and then have thorough magic decontamination for interplanet shuttle services? That good enough?
...Amentans are not sure they are qualified to come up with magic decontamination, they don't seem to understand.
Reds seem like they would not be credible authorities on the adequacy of shuttle decontamination. They would pick Amentans who all the Amentans would trust on the subject.
Oh good. Also if Amentans join Vanda Nossëo they can get their very own colony planets made for them from scratch and those will be the least polluted planets imaginable because they'll have been made fresh. Amentans will not end up trapped on this one world.
Yeah! Colony planets are usually a bonus for twenty years of membership but these Elves think maybe with Amenta it will work better to give any new member a colony planet up front. Since it's going to require big changes to get membership and the bribe should be commensurate.