"People built whole systems around the assumption people'll die so you don't have to support them indefinitely -"

"I mean, obviously, because it is a valid assumption and given that people tend to plan things at all."

Snort.

"We do not want to incentivize them to cripple more four-year-olds."

"Agreed. So, uh, possibly no summoning or life extension for any mages except whitemages. Except if you teach summoning everybody's going to try it because of course they are -"

"Yeah, that's where I get stuck. 'roll out summoning to part but not all of this population' seems like a very definitely losing proposition. We could claim summoning doesn't work in their world and ship people through the portal to ours to do it, but mages can conceal it and people might try at home what they did in our world and then it'll work and word'll get around -"

"Could do it with a lot of very cooperative demons but I don't have a lot of very cooperative demons."

"How?"

"Only teach them to summon specific demons, have those demons check who just made a circle for them before they take it and decline to show up if it's someone for whom we are pretending summoning doesn't work."

"My impression of daeva is that they are mostly kinda irresponsible."

Nod. "Or at least very accustomed to low stakes, and not in the same way you're accustomed to it."

"...am I supposed to have some kind of input or just receive exposition?"

"Do you have thoughts?"

"I think you're waiting for me to finish accumulating Aly dreams so you can roll me all the way back and torture Aly instead for a change."

"In that case if I want Bell input on this I'll go to Cam. So no mass deceit plots. Except not mentioning summoning at all, I guess. They have good healing so you could plausibly get most of the benefits of daeva just from having a few cooperative demons along to do infrastructure, maybe we just do that."

"It means they all die, but maybe the Valar'll help there. Okay, so the kingdom our hosts are from is here -" map - "and I'm trying to think what to trade them that they can sustain on their own tech base, and I'm thinking -"

And they talk about trade details for an hour.

It's sort of soothing.

Yay. 

Later he does take the in-progress plans to Cam for Bell input. "Scour the place for a mage who is trustworthy, in command of their faculties, and dying, teach them to summon, learn whether mages daevafy and whether they keep their powers. And then we have three plans from there, one for each outcome, sending them over now..."

"I'm sort of worried that if they wanted to a greenmage could subvert, uh, literally anyone."

"It works that fast?"

"It takes, like, seconds to minutes."

"Can you conjure by 'greenmages in this area' -"

"Nope. I could find their uniforms but they don't wear them all the time."

"Can have someone who doesn't mind alt mindreading go, and a soul Elf alt of theirs hang out in a shuttle in range... I wonder if Occlumency blocks it..."

"Worth knowing. Could hire a greenmage to try."