"Probably not but it's cheap to test."

He makes a note. "I want humans who have bad governments to be able to leave, though, and portals would be nice to accomplish that...maybe we can just set it up so anyone can go settle their own planet..."

"I think humans may be more - dependent - I could go live in the woods if I wanted, humans are maybe more stuck -"

"Would they be even if the plants were edible and the climate was temperate? And they could summon?"

"...maybe ask one of the humans."

So when he next sees Miranda he asks her.

"...we might not, like, die, but I think you're probably underestimating what humans will put up with politically to have the comforts of civilization. Demons would be good for comforts of civilization but people fleeing to a new planet won't have anything to trade them, right?"

"I mean, 'better than living in temperate woods where you can eat everything' puts a bound on how bad things can be politically, right? And Midnight's been befriending demons who just want to be summoned for the languages."

"Humans are also really bad at risk assessment," says Miranda. "So a small risk of something really bad might not seem worse than living in the woods and getting rained on and having spiders on you frequently."

"We can do no rain and no spiders, if those are the sticking points."

"Those were just examples but if you can actually make it work with no rain that would be a selling point."

"We can do no rain - we can probably set up indoor plumbing, too, with enough thought..."

"At some point you're just offering replacement civilization which is fine but might require more thought than edible rainless woods anarchy."

"I'm trying to avoid requiring ongoing intervention from us but am open to most setups that don't require that."

"Well, who counts as 'us'."

"Anyone."

"They might just spontaneously organize into new governments."

"That's fine, that's scalable, our personal attention isn't."

"At any remove?"

"I mean, 'develop a initial configuration for a refugee planet such that we can install one for humans as we go and expect that it will give them more options' is fine, 'personally run such planets' is not."

"I'm just worried that with nobody minding the place they'll inevitably turn into the sort of planet people need to escape. Again."

"We don't have anyone to mind the place. We need solutions that don't require that."

"Then I'm not sure the solution can be having edible woods anarchies for people to run off to."

"So what should it be?"

"Maybe there's a way to run them by computer? Sort of like Cam's moon prison."