"Some people manage to have self-concepts that are pretty weird and then their indestructibility gets the hint. Helps if they import some Fairyland fruit that speeds that up."

"Oh, like gender change potions?"

"Some of them are just doing that, yeah."

"Oh, so it's a full customization of appearance. I think Visitors get to do that. Well... except in places where Visitors are taking over the role of a specific person. I remember visiting somewhere like that once. One of the narrative focused worlds. It still had cool fights though."

"You keep like... pronouncing 'visitors' with a capital letter."

"Visitors like Creators are people from wherever place I was before I became a Creator I think. Depending on who you ask they're either the entire purpose of the worldseeds or just a substantial portion of the purpose. More specifically, when people say that they mean the point is to give the Visitors an experience."

"...huh. I don't think we... have... those? Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding."

"Yeah... I've been a bit confused about that, at first my assumption was that they were all just in the world where people are before the afterlives but there are sooo many instantiated people here as far as I can tell. Nobody I've met and talked to felt like scenery. It may be that this place is just completely outside the paradigm I'm accustomed to."

"I mean, everybody here used to be alive, also."

"It is possible to sculpt instantiated people such that they don't notice the discordant features of their world and smoothing over the weird things Visitors say is something I've seen that used for. I just wouldn't expect the sort of Creators who do that to also create a place like this unless it was somehow essential to the experience they were trying to craft. And I don't have any guesses as to how it would be."

"So you're - a content creator of a weird vacation destination universe - but you decided to go do something else and now you're here, creating, uh," he hefts his bag, "content?"

"Yeah, more or less."

"Any guess why you wound up here?"

"The portals do allow for travel between the vacation destination universes, as you so aptly described them. If this is one of those, just a really weird one then it's totally reasonable. If this is somewhere else... I'm really not sure. I guess it's a result of messing with things too much and breaking the safeties for lack of a better term."

"Huh. Magic portals have safeties? Like daeva bindings, or nah?"

"I don't know if it literally has safeties... like I said I'm guessing. I'm also not sure what daeva bindings are."

"Oh, when live people summon them they get fancy with it so the daeva can't go nuts and kill people."

"And that's necessary?"

"I don't know, I've never met a daeva."

"That's fair and if they're people then I guess some of them would go out of their way to make trouble."

"They are, yeah, sometimes dead people turn into them instead."

"Wait... do some people start as Daeva instead of living elsewhere and dying first?"

"Yeah, most of them aren't dead people, just a few."

"I wouldn't have expected that given the first reference I had to where they live was as better afterlives."

"I mean, they're afterlives, and better, but yeah, most people there just kind of pop into existence."