"Not really, but we can send them on - to Hell, to Heaven, to wherever else is right for them. The afterlives are accustomed to taking in those who have great psychological scars; in fact in a sense I think from the perspective of the afterlives practically all of us are so scarred."

"So, again, not to be a one-note song, but, incredibly large nonmagical explosion on the Zon-Kuthon afterlife, does it help at all?"

It could maybe take the walls down faster but it would kill all the prisoners???

"Souls in the afterlife can be permakilled by large explosions, or for that matter, permakilled at all outside of Abaddon?"

It is in general an incredibly rare occurrence - they are much tougher than normal mortals - but an unfathomably large explosion is the sort of thing that would do it.

"...huh.  Possibly their next destination would be able to take care of them, I'm not doing too badly here.  But given the number of unknowns, if Hell and Heaven think they can take care of them, then - possibly it's not worth just turning that whole afterlife into a crater, right away..."

"Okay, my current impression is that a lot of things won't be fixed enough if I drop a giant explosion on them.  Awaiting Consumption could be destroyed and scattered, but that would potentially warn Urgathoa about an ambush that we'd otherwise want to spring later."

"Your personal judgment about whether Lastwall should be told what I suspect I might be able to do, in case they can think of something to do with it that I can't and you didn't?  Downside, increased risk of tipping off Urgathoa early - I have been wondering a bit about whether she's liable to attack the Project, but what happened to Zon-Kuthon would maybe be something of a warning sign to her.  Upside, Lastwall being able to actually think of something."

"To be clear on the obvious: this is something that would take secrecy oaths, a lot of truthspells, Lawful Neutral clerics and outsiders verifying things, Broom or Broom's people signing off, not sure if you're cleared about that part, possibly my going outside whatever effect is preventing divine interference here so I can get signoff from my god on it."

"Of course.  I should think on that for some time, and not give you an answer immediately."

"I'd also have additional questions about Lastwall's government.  Somebody mentioned to me that they thought everywhere in Golarion had nobles, and made it illegal to talk 'disrespectfully' to nobles, and this included Lastwall, according to them."

Keltham's thoughts are now moving away from their previous state of extremely Lawful reasoning about whether it's possible to achieve victory over Evil, and not just fight it, using his currently available options.

"Lastwall prides itself on having no nobles, in the sense that other countries have them. Every person in Lastwall serves the greater Good, no matter who their parents are or how much money they have. If the Queen of Cheliax joined our noble cause, she would be given the command of a regiment, to prove herself from there. Certainly it is true that we would not permit anyone to treat her disrespectfully."

"Define 'treat her disrespectfully'.  If she goes around visibly on drugs and somebody says 'Gosh you look to be visibly on drugs', for example, is that disrespectful?"

" - it would depend how they said it, I would think, and what relationship they had with her?"

"Stranger, said it as follows:  Gosh, you look to be visibly on drugs."  Keltham's voice is simply-factual.

" - I take it it's not the answer you're looking for, but that person would probably get in trouble, for bothering an officer out of the blue. Of course the officer would also be reprimanded, if they were on drugs."

"Is there - somebody else who is the one person who you are supposed to talk to, if the Queen of Cheliax was put in charge of your 'regiment', and then she seems to be visibly on drugs."

"You could bring it to the attention of her second in command."

"If that's translating correctly, her second-in-command would be her direct subordinate?  Somebody who Hypothetical Delinquent Abrogail would have a ton of actual power over, in terms of being able to make that person's life subtly worse if she felt like it?"

"Yes, that's correct, though we teach that people should not abuse power over their subordinates."

"How do you incentivize that people should not subtly abuse power over their subordinates?"

"It's wrong. It makes the world worse. And Lastwall teaches everyone, from childhood, the importance of not doing things that are wrong. And Iomedae chooses only people who act very rightly."

"What percentage of all managers in Lastwall have been chosen by Iomedae that way?"  It could work if she's pointing out or passing veto on every manager in the system, Keltham supposes, but that's more comms bandwidth than he thought gods had.

"At the regiment level? Perhaps a third."

"Sorry, what's a 'regiment' exactly?"

"Six hundred soldiers, three battalions."

"I... would not expect this system to work if Iomedae only got to select one in eighteen hundred personnel.  My next thought would be to ask if you previously ran really intense heritage-selection on people to not abuse their subordinates, but that would involve having a system for detecting it and then you wouldn't need the heritage-selection process, and also apparently you accept non-Iomedae-selected out-faction people to run regiments.  I'd be shocked to find you had prediction markets running... why does this system work?  Does this system work?  What stops managers from ending up doing wacky shit if people below them aren't supposed to call them on it and can only report to people underneath the manager in the command directed-bunch-of-connections?"

"...that for the most part they are Good people who want us to win?"