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"So we want to show them exactly the cake girl they're expecting, is the idea here," says the guy who just got back from the front lines.

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"Unfortunately there is a sufficiently large grain of truth in the cake-girl-specific rumors" namely fucking all of it "that this should not be our policy with respect to the cake girl."

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What part of that could possibly... the part about Forbiddances, presumably.  "Can we show them just the part that isn't true?"

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IF THERE WAS ANY SUCH PART, YES, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION.

"Not from among the items listed.  We would need to generate new ones..."

...though actually, on reflection, the 'cake girl' is a weird intervention by Cayden Cailean which has never made any sense at all; and which seems almost absolutely unrelated to any of the things that are actually important about Project Lawful.

"General policy question," Pilar says.  "How do we feel about focusing attention on points that are true but really really fucking misleading?"

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"If you know enough about what's up with Project Lawful to evaluate that, yes, that's what some of the best misinformation is."

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NNOOOO NOO NO NO STOOOOP THAT IS NOT HOW THIS WORKS THAT IS NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS 

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"Okay, then I think we run with it looking to them like the cake girl is real, pending somebody with diamonds clearance saying if maybe that isn't such a good idea after all."

 

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...wait, what, that list was in significant part true but 'really really fucking misleading', WHAT.

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"No apparent teleporting," contributes someone with diamonds clearance who just walked in a minute ago. "We should just have someone walk the cake in."

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Pilar is pretty sure she doesn't teleport, she's not sure what she does instead but teleportation doesn't feel right.  It's not weird teleportation, it's not-teleportation-at-all.

But, okay, if they don't want to focus attention on teleportation with respect to the diamonds, cool.

"Cake girl should be able to walk in visibly and without teleporting, at the correct time, if she tries.  Then what?  I'd expect her to be kidnapped and tortured for information, but how do they do that, exactly?  And is there a way to make sure she ends up in Hell shortly after" CORRECTLY THIS TIME "which doesn't make it clear that we knew all along what would happen and were prepared for it?  Assume the cake girl can maintain her will under torture for an extended period and is able to supply deliberate misinformation, but would like to be sure of dying in time to get Raised after dawn tomorrow."

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"I don't think we should assume that of cake girl unless we've already done it to her. And even if she's ready to be Asmodeus's heroic servant, they'll have mindreading."

"The obvious way to make sure someone who is captured makes it to Hell is to give them a slow-acting, but not noticeable or easily treatable, poison; when noticed they generally won't assume she'd been poisoned before being captured."

Everyone looks to the Osirian expert for how Osirion does interrogations.

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"Osirion doesn't consider itself bound not to employ torture, but does little of it by Chelish standards because it's not really very useful for their goals.  The pharaoh is known to have a Sense Motive of basically mindreading, but he doesn't involve himself in much directly.  They also have actual mindreading, obviously."

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Pilar is confused by the concept of torture not being useful; she has always had the impression that people who aren't her will go to great lengths to avoid it.  She's also confused by the concept that nobody gets suspicious of prisoners who mysteriously die a few hours later, but this is less important.

"And I suppose that if somebody has a scroll of Mind Blank to tap cake girl so the Osirians do need to use torture, that does make it too obvious... well, maybe they'd think it was just Project Lawful bullshit?"

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"I think that if the cake girl looks like a girl the Osirians are very unlikely to move to torture within the indicated timeframe."

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Osirion.  Right.

"...do we have other ways of doing something very misleading with the cake girl, assuming that she does not get to use her in fact fairly impressive ability to withstand torture in order to deliver misinformation."

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Is she actually the cake girl.

You don't work in intelligence for this long, and not notice when an inexperienced subject is possibly failing at a task of pretending not to be somebody.

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"We could send some person who isn't the cake girl and doesn't know anything in with the cake, having gotten a Suggestion immediately before to bring the cake in, poisoned. All they learn from her is that she was inexplicably seized by the urge to bring this cake in, and we learn - once she shows up in Hell - what Osirion knew enough to ask her about."

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"Constraint:  We'd need somebody who would afterwards feel really cheerful about that having happened to them.  Do we have anybody like that?"

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Everyone stares at her incredulously. 

 

 

 

 

"We could....subsequently raise them? And commend them on their service to the Crown?"

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"That works great on me and at least eleven other people in Cheliax, but unfortunately this is a hard constraint and it runs off how people will actually feel and not what they are supposed to feel."

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Some new conclusions are quickly reached about how many girls are in Project Lawful and what makes them special.

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It is, however, not added to the rumor mill, for fucking once, because these people are professionals specifically in the intelligence services, and furthermore have a good idea of who gets interrogated and possibly executed if there's a new rumor about there being exactly 12 girls in Project Lawful.

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(...you could do something genuinely actually nice for them afterwards, her curse does not suggest.)

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Message to Pilar from somebody in this room:  Is this a visible hard constraint where I can use it to find out whether someone is truly loyal to -

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Reply:  No, unfortunately, and yes I know exactly how stupid that is.

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