Sad Cam talks to Ancora
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"Perhaps! You have more experience with this than I."

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"I mean that's how we found out about the switch in the first place; there's probably more to learn there."

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'I would benefit from additional context.'

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"Sauron is a surviving and also evil Maia who was oathed harmless as part of the end to the war and apparently he has a deadman switch in case someone takes it into their head to kill him anyway."

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"Which I found out when simming what Cam would do with omnipotence, and given that he then dealt with it omnipotently we don't have information on what would happen if someone less overpowered tried it."

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'I see.'

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"And we don't want to sim Sauron directly lest he acquire a soul."

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 - nod.

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"He's -

- very bad."

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'I understand.'  Flap.  'And Maiar are already inherently magical beings.'

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"They are, yes."

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'Therefore even in the case where he is killed and soulless, should some situation arise where the state of his death is no longer desirable, retrieval will still be in principle possible.'

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"Sounds about right. You'd just need some kind of - containment plan."

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'Is there a particular motion or pose I should use to communicate that I am considering possible configurations for a response, as opposed to not having a response at all.'

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"...you could say 'hmmm'?"

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''Hmm',' they try.  'Was that comprehensible.'

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"Yeah."

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'Hmm,' they repeat.

 

'I have many higher priorities than in practice bringing about the continued existence of evil individuals.  But the true, irrevocable annihilation of any thinking being is abhorrent to me.'

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"Yeah. It's a good principle to have. I'd just - my preference ordering is something like, Sauron being on metaphorical ice in some way that can't accidentally be cracked open waiting for the glorious future in which he can be safely kept around, is better than Sauron being dead, is better than Sauron being able to... take... actions."

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'Is there a sense in which he is not presently safely contained by the oath.'

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"He is still capable of animal cruelty, deadman switches, and talking to people."

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'I will defer to your judgement on this subject.'

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"Thank you."

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'I am unsure to what extent I can include exemptions for specific individuals when constructing magic systems.  It may be required that all resurrections of Maiar happen by my direct action rather than being spreadable, if we don't wish to risk other parties having access to the option to retrieve him.'

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"That would be... inconvenient. It might be that Maiar could pull other Maiar out if there were enough of them, though possibly if that were something they could do the ones who survived on Endorë would already be coordinating about it."

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