She starts crying.

Many, many hug.

After a little bit: "I wanna give her everything she wants, but - "

"I think with that history, she doesn't want what Ruby and I have, either. You- The last thing she wants is for you to be hurt, I promise you that."

Shiver. "I don't want it to hurt..."

"But it does. And that's not your fault."

Sigh.

"...I think I'd maybe like to talk about fun stuff..." she mumbles.

Then they can talk about fun stuff that El probably likes and what Ellie's noticed Ruby likes, staying carefully away from the dom/sub aspect.

The pain stuff is - weirdly intriguing???

The sex stuff is embarrassing, but - not in a bad way -

...Bellona thinks she might not actually mind being - El's pet, as long as she's the type of cat who definitely does not do what it's told ever, because cats... Just, playfulness is - fun.

The important thing, really, is communication. Make sure they're talking to each other.

She nods.

"And - if we try something, and one of us doesn't like it, we can - probably just stop doing it - "

"It's a good idea to set up safewords, yeah. If someone says their safeword, then you stop. Ruby and I use traffic lights: green for go, yellow for slow, and red for stop."

She nods.

"Thanks."

"It is my pleasure."

Grin. "Guess we should go see if Ruby and El finished talking?"

"Suppose so."

She takes a few deep breaths - tries to make sure it isn't obvious she was crying - thanks Ellie again, and steps out into the living room.

The other two seem to be done!

"Had fun?" Ruby asks, teasingly. (She and El have been done for a little while.)

"-More or less."

"Got some good ideas." Hesitantly - abruptly, not looking at El's face - "I'm not - doing the submission thing - "

"Good."

She goes over to snuggle El. Because she's had enough of serious emotions for today: "Being your very independently minded cat sounds fun, though."

Snuggles are good.

"Not a tame Lion, then."

"Maybe a little bit domesticated. Just enough to not bite you."