"I suppose."

"What he should have been, of course, is Avari."

"That makes a lot of sense."

"Oromë thinks so too."

"Really? I have to admit, I'm a little surprised to hear that a Vala thinks someone would be better off outside of Valinor."

"Oh, they were very divided on taking us here in the first place. Ulmo was opposed, Oromë - has declined to specify how he voted on it."

"Huh."

"The Valar vary tremendously."

"Well, I suppose people do. And the Valar are people, I think, even if they're a very very different kind of people from Elves..."

"Yes, definitely."

"There's few enough of them that you wouldn't necessarily expect the level of variation that you can find in Elves or--come to think of it--Maiar, but I suppose if you selected fourteen Elves and fourteen Maiar at random you wouldn't necessarily expect them to be unusually similar."

"And you'd certainly expect some disagreement, if you grabbed fourteen Elves, on the wisdom of coming to Valinor."

"Yeah--of course, then you have to ask yourselves what pool of Elves you're selecting from, exactly--"

"All the Elves! Seems like the only fair way -"

"Well, if you're selecting from both Elves who've never seen Valinor and Elves who have, it seems like you'd have an information imbalance..."

"We've never seen Endorë..."

"A bi-directional information imbalance, then.I suppose you could select only from people who were born in Endore and came to Valinor, but that limits the available pool rather sharply...of course, if we're saying we're selecting from all the Elves, ever, we could say we're selecting a future version of any given Elf who has in the interim acquired relevant information."

"That sounds much harder to do, somehow. A Vala probably could just speak to every Elf; future versions with different information is a different problem..."

"Oh, when you said all the Elves I thought you meant including ones who hadn't been born yet."

"I suppose that'd be maximally thorough, but yes, I have no idea how-"

"I mean, this is all just hypothetical anyway."

"Not entirely."

"Oh?"

"Someday presumably the pigeon-messengers and the powered flight will get us back in touch with the opposite shore."

"Well, yeah, but you're probably not going to immediately attempt to select fourteen Elves at random at that point."