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Violets for my Sweetheart, Green Carnations for yours
Elf Edie and Emily in Valinor
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Okay. Keep your heart rate down, Marillë. Yes, this is the Prince Curufinwe. Yes, he's the most genius Elf in all Aman. But he liked your paper, he asked you to be here. There's nothing to be nervous about.

She knocks on the door.

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It is not the crown prince Curufinwë! It is someone she's never met who says "Oh, right, they mentioned. Workshop's around and on your left, don't interrupt him."

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"Don't interrupt him as in don't go in until he's not in the middle of anything or as in go in but don't demand his attention?"

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"The latter, he won't even notice you."

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"Alright. Thank you, um...?"

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"Rátulco. You're - "

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"Marillë. It's nice to meet you."

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"Likewise. Good skill."

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She goes around and to the left.

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The Prince Curufinwë is working and ignores her.

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Well, she was warned to expect that.

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And a good thing, because otherwise she might have felt awkward. Since he keeps on doing it.

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She has paper on her, she can work on a tricky problem that had been troubling her while she waits.

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When he finishes what he's doing he turns around and says 'what are you working on?'

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"Oh, it's--" and then she describes the problem. It is legitimately tricky and interesting.

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"Okay. There's a book on that -" he names it - "might help." 

 

And goes back to his work.

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"Thanks."

...Okay then. She will just. Continue to work on the thing, then.

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Eventually some people bring food.

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That is convenient and she will eat.

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About an hour after that he looks at her and says "Oh, I've got it" and describes the answer to the problem.

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This is fascinating and has several implications worth pursuing further!

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Well, she can't tell him about them, he's back at work.

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...She's going to see if she can find anyone to talk to to confirm that this is normal and ask what being apprenticed to him means in practical terms.

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There are people around.

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"Hi."

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"Marillë, right? What are you working on?"

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She describes it.

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"Huh, interesting -" he has suggestions on something to read, something to test, something to ask his father -

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She writes down reminders to herself as applicable. "Thank you. Is it--usually like this?"

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"People work on their own stuff and occasionally look over your shoulder and have ideas? Yeah. If you need something explained to you you can just ask, but if what you're already working on is valuable no one's going to expect you to put it on pause to have a structured education. If he thinks you're wasting your time he'll point you at a better use of it, but if you're already doing something interesting then there's not much to teach."

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"Oh. Okay. I wasn't particularly expecting conventional but given that he showed up at my door, said he liked my paper and asked me if I wanted to actually learn something I wasn't really expecting this kind of unconventional. Thank you for clarifying."

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"You'll learn lots of things, don't worry."

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"I was less worried than confused but thank you for the reassurance."

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Nod. He turns back to his work.

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Yeah, that's apparently how things work here. It's not exactly optimized for her learning style but real life is rarely optimized for any one person and it's better than what she was doing before the crown prince showed up at her door. She follows suit.

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There are, occasionally, twelve-hour long debates on various topics people are working on; they're just not very scheduled.

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These are actually really interesting! Marille's really starting to warm up to this system.

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If she knows where to look there is usually one of those going on!

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Cool. She learns where to look. She doesn't always use the knowledge, but it's nice to have when she wants it.

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Family dinners are a particularly reliable source of them. Sometimes the princes who don't spend all their time working or debating even join them.

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Marille loses her residual nervousness-around-royalty. It helps that everyone's so--themselves, in their own different ways.

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And it's a delightful variety of ways. About the only thing the whole royal house has in common is that all of them are unusual.

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It's a good thing to have in common!

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They mostly don't seem to recognize it.

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Huh. Well, when you grow up around other weird people.

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Yep. 

 

She's there for a week before she sees the oldest.

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"Marillë! You all right? I've been trying to talk them into at least making welcome pamphlets."

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"I've been managing."

(It should be weird that someone she doesn't really know is addressing her so familiarly even once you get over the royalty thing but he makes it work, somehow.)

"It was confusing, at first, but your brother Curufinwe explained things to my satisfaction and I've been doing fine since."

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"When I suggested that they said I should make the welcome pamphlets but I wouldn't even know what to put on them. 'No, he doesn't hate you, and if he hasn't interrupted you it's because he thinks you're doing something interesting'?"

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"I asked him if the ignoring was normal and if so what being his apprentice would look like and he said yes and described it. I don't think 'hates me in particular' crossed my mind at all--'thought it would be amusing to play a cruel prank by offering me the apprenticeship in the first place' did but I never assigned the possibility much weight."

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"I should warn him that's a possible failure mode."

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"Well, I didn't assign it low weight because I thought he was a paragon of virtue who would never, I assigned it low weight because all the negative rumors I heard about him suggested that his issues were due to a lack of ability to--navigate people--not an inclination to wield the ability negatively, but while I would love to be able to say that I think most people would consider that when deciding whether or not to give him the benefit of the doubt, yes, you probably should."

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"I will write up some pamphlets and tuck them away in the workshop somewhere. Thank you."

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"You're welcome.

I do like him, now. But I didn't know much that wasn't--general public knowledge--at the time."

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"I promise I wasn't screening for loyalty to my father."

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"No? I've known him for less than a month, I'm not sure I'd describe myself as more than superficially loyal yet. I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't giving negative rumors about his lack of social graces undue weight in my opinion of him."

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"That I'm glad to hear."

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"And the rumors about his genius appear to be entirely accurate."

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"I have the same impression!"

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"You'd know better than I would."

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"Would I? I live up in the city proper and am not working on anything at all sufficiently interesting."

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"Well, yes, but you've known not only him but everyone else with an informed opinion multiple orders of magnitude longer than I have."

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"I know everybody. I'd say 'it's my job' but that'd be nonsense, it's just fun. But I might be biased when it comes to my father."

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"I accepted an apprenticeship from him based on his showing up at my door saying he liked a paper I wrote and did I want to actually learn something. I am not wholly without reason to prefer to think he's brilliant enough to justify doing that."

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"Okay, fair. What were you doing before?"

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"D'you want the technical detail, or...?"

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"I will find it incomprehensible but nod appreciatively."

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"I mean, I can summarize in non-technical detail!"

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"Then I will find it comprehensible and nod appreciatively!"

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She summarizes.

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And is rewarded not just with nods but with some followup questions.

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Which she can answer!

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"Thank you! I understand why my father was fascinated."

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"Thanks."

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"Do let me know if you need anything, all right?"

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"I will."

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And the unconventional apprenticeship continues to be productive, if not any more conventional.

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Eventually Marille's sister shows up to see how she's doing.

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She'll find a workshop partitioned so heated debates don't distract the people working elsewhere.

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They have those a lot? Cool. ...Is her sister engaging in one such that she should probably not be bothered right this minute?

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Actually yeah.

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Good for her. Ahyadacil can loiter around for a while until she's probably done.

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It's a pretty house! There's a courtyard, there are kids dangling from the trees, there's an adult sleeping next to the fountain with his giant dog. 

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Oh, wow, that dog is giant. Neat. And the guy is pretty.

...She can think of a way to make him prettier. No, she shouldn't do that.

But he's just lying there asleep and looking so cute and tempting and okay she's going to walk carefully over there and balance a vial of glittering powder on his forehead.

She offers her hand for the dog to smell.

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She gets sniffed. Suspiciously.

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Okay, she has no reason for a strange dog to trust her. She sits down a respectful distance away.

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Huan plods over and sniffs her less suspiciously.

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Oh, cool. She holds still and lets him do that.

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After a minute he seems to get bored and slouch off back to his sleeping person.

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Okay, that's fair.

She watches the small children hanging from the tree and waits for her sister to be available (or for sleeping person to wake up and dump glitter all over himself).

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The latter happens first! He stands up and blinks and is very very glittery and looks around in confusion and then says to the dog, sounding intensely betrayed, "you could have warned me."

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(She makes a token effort to conceal her laughter. It's not really very effective at all.)

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He notices her. He glitters at her. "You could also avenge me," he says pointedly to Huan.

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"And where is he supposed to get glitter to do that with?"

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"Dunno, where'd you get it?"

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"Yes, because I'm totally going to give people the secrets to avenging themselves upon me."

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"Are you imagining me that easily deterred from vengeance?"

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"No, but I don't have to make it easy for you. I am a high-quality vengeance-receiver and I demand effort from those who would avail themselves of my services."

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"It seems unwise to suggest that I put more effort into my revenge when you have no idea what form I intend it to take."

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"Just remember that the vicious cycle of revenge is an escalatory one and I'll have to top it if you come up with something really good."

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"I am sure you'll try."

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"I don't recommend underestimating me."

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"Wasn't planning on it."

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"Wise of you."

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"And, sorry, you are -"

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"Ahyadacil. Marillë's sister, come to check up on her."

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"Might not wanna interrupt her."

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"Yes, that would be why I'm out here."

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"Ah, okay. You been waiting a while?"

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"A little while, yeah."

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"Long enough to acquire the glitter, or do you just carry that around waiting for opportunities?"

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"I already had it for unrelated reasons."

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"What unrelated glitter reasons are there?"

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"It was for a friend and the rest is extremely none of your business."

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"You kind of dumped your business on my head."

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"None of my business either," she says faux-primly.

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"Now I'm super tempted to guess though."

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She glances at the children to see if they're looking in this direction.

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"They're statues. My mom's brilliant, isn't she?"

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"...Wow. Yeah."

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"So, no sneaky listening ears."

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She makes a dumping motion over her head and then a combing motion.

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I'm still missing something.

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...Combing it into her hair? It's a sex thing.

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That is a new sex thing. I have not heard of it. Will your friend be terribly disappointed that you have stolen their sex thing and dumped it on the head of a sleeping prince of the Noldor.

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I'm not sure my friend didn't make it up. Anyway, I can get more.

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Okay. I suppose it's a way to pass the time. 

He shakes the glitter out of his hair.

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Sex or dumping glitter on people?

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Both, I suppose. The latter has more interesting potential to annoy my cousins, that's something.

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Yeah, I don't recommend using sex to annoy people unless you're interested in a lot of collateral damage.

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Might've done that thing but I wasn't trying to annoy the person I was having sex with, does that count?

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Trying to annoy someone by having sex with them is a different thing with potential for less collateral damage. And I assumed you weren't going to try that with your cousins.

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I did in fact hit on one of my cousins at one point but we were both much younger.

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Okay, I was not expecting that. I guess you're only half-cousins, so that's not terrible. Which one?

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Don't think I know you well enough to say.

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...Okay.

(Accompanying the word is the context: she doesn't know what he means by that and she wants to, it itches at her, but he presumably has a good reason that knowing the meaning would reveal and it isn't actually any of her business so she can shelve the question and the curiosity somewhere in the back of her head and not make it his problem until it goes away.)

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They're guys. I don't know if you're an idiot yet.

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Oh. Well, she can't swear she's not any kind of idiot, but she is very much not that kind of idiot.

I kissed a girl when I was forty-seven to see if it appealed at all. It didn't, she offers.

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Congratulations on not being an idiot. 

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It's not actually very hard. I don't even know what's wrong with most people.

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Me neither, though I can't pretend I think about it all the time.

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Yeah, they don't deserve my mental energy. I mean. I have to have some allowances for tolerating idiots or I'd have no friends besides my sister at all, but, no, when they're being idiots I have better things to do.

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I just pretty much make do without friends except my family and Huan.

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I have only one sibling and no magic dog.

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You poor thing. I highly recommend the magic dog. Important ingredient.

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This one seems very happy where he is. Let me know if you find any others.

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Huan might be one of a kind. How's your sister doing here, do you know?

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Haven't checked in with her in person yet but she's doing fine.

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Good.

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She was simultaneously flattered and weirded out by your dad's offer.

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Oh?

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He just showed up at our door! He said he liked her paper did she actually want to learn things! This is weird!

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How're you supposed to do it?

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Less, mm, spontaneously than that?

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Sounds boring.

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It seems to work.

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For goals that do not include 'don't be boring'.

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Maybe it doesn't bore them.

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Then they're boring.

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People don't need literally every single thing in their life to not be boring in order for them to not be boring overall.

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I mean, yeah, but we live in Valinor, most things in their life will be boring by default.

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I see your point.

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Do you really? I'm kind of being a jerk. To everybody.

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I mean, it's not like most people would care whether you personally find them boring.

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This is true. It is a wholly mutual distaste.

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Good thing you've got a magic dog to substitute for literally the entire rest of society.

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And my family. They're pretty great.

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I'll take your word for it until I can ask my sister.

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Is she boring?

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No.

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Then she'll like them fine.

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I have only your word for that! You seem lovely but I've only known you a few minutes!

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Sure, but I'm right.

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Lots of people think they're right about things. Most of them are idiots.

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True. I'm still right.

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I suspect you are! But I will still take my sister's word over yours if it comes down to it.

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Yeah, fair.

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I endeavor to be fair in all things.

Except glittering people, that one was on me.

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It was a terribly unfair glittering. 

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I couldn't resist! You were sleeping right there, dead to the world and terribly pretty. How could I pass up a chance to make you even prettier?

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I couldn't say. That your sister?

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"Marille!"

Pounce. Hug.

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Hug. "Hi! It's good to see you."

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"Yeah, same. How've the royals been treating you?"

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"They're lovely. Not particularly usual, in any way, but that's no downside, really."

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She lets go of her sister and turns to the prince. "You are vindicated," she says, mock-seriously.

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"Count me not at all surprised." He shakes his glittery head dramatically.

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"What's with the sparkle? Ahya, did you--"

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"I'm not sorry."

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"She's going to be sorry, though."

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"Ahya, did you declare war on him?"

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"Kinda yeah."

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"Oh boy."

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"It's okay, I intend to keep the destruction of property to a minimum. It will be a very civil war."

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"...Okay."

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"Are you skeptical of my ability to minimize property damage or of the wisdom of any course of action where minimizing property damage is relevant?"

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"Definitely at least one of those things."

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"I don't have to be wise, you know, that's the other side of the family."

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"If you're unwise in relation to my sister then it suddenly becomes much more my job to clean up after."

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"Oh, are you the sensible one?"

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"Given that I haven't dumped glitter on anyone in the last Year I'm going to have to go with yes."

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"It wasn't clear to me she makes a habit of it!"

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"Well, she doesn't, but there you are, sparkling like crushed mica."

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"Maybe it was Huan."

 

Huan snorts.

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"She admitted it."

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"She might be protecting Huan. The web of intrigue grows thicker."

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"It's so cute how you assume my sister is capable of lying to me."

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"No, no, I am assuming you're colluding in deceiving me."

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"Oh, well, at that point it's your problem."

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"A problem? I think my looks are much improved."

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"I agree or I wouldn't have done it."

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"Carefully phrased to avoid saying you did do it!"

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"I did it. With my opposable thumbs, which Huan doesn't have."

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"So perhaps both of you are covering for some third assailant."

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"Maybe the statues did it."

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"That would explain why you're lying for them - moving statues would be terrifying."

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"No, no, I'm lying for the statues because they're adorable. If it was just that they were scary I'd be enlisting your help in fighting them."

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"You wouldn't want to shield me from the horror?"

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"Then how would you defend yourself?"

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"I would be glittered again and again!"

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"I concede this sounds like a positive outcome."

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"Should I suspect you've been conniving with the statues all along?"

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"This is the first time I've ever been here."

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"Huh. Well, I'll let you reunite with your sister. Hey, Marillë." And he walks off trailing glitter.

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She grins as he watches him go. Then she turns to her sister and the two of them catch up.

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It isn't long after Ahyadacil leaves that Marille goes to see Maitimo.

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"Hi! How're you doing?"

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"Mostly well. 

My sister came to see me at your father's house yesterday and met Tyelcormo."

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"They didn't have some kind of stupid fight?"

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"She dumped glitter on him and he swore revenge. I think they were flirting."

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"And you want a read on whether my brother is likely to break her heart?"

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"I want a read on how likely this is to end with them running off to get married in the woods."

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"I'm sure he'd be tempted, but I think he'd take - family - more seriously than that."

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"Good, because out of everyone I've ever met those two have far and away the least regard for what's socially acceptable."

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"That can lend advantages. New perspectives."

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"Sure. Ahyadacil is the person I love most in all of Arda. I'm just...concerned...when she essentially declares a flirtatious vengeance war on Tyelcormo."

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"Understandably. Would it be a bad choice for her if they ran off and got married?"

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"Probably not."

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"I will keep that in mind."

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"Okay.

I hope things don't escalate too badly."

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"That seem likely?"

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"Sort of depends on how the vengeance thing goes."

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"I can attempt to talk him down if you're terribly worried."

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"I don't know as much about his as hers."

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"What's she likely to do?"

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"Take everything in his room and glue it to the ceiling in the exact same position it was relative to everything else before she got there?"

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"Should be an entertaining few months but nothing I'd be inclined to intervene in."

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"Alright then."

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"Do you need anything?"

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"Mostly I just wanted to warn you about potential sibling-related instability."

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"Thank you. I shall expect absurdity from Tyelcormo."

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"Yeah.

It hadn't even occurred to me to ask before you brought it up but do you think it's likely he'll break her heart?"

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"Definitely not on purpose."

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"All I can ask, I suppose."

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"Should he be worried?"

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"Not as long as he's upfront about his feelings, which I'm guessing won't be a problem."

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"That it won't."

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"So that's fine. Of course, I'm plausibly extrapolating way beyond what I have any right to be confident in..."

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"He does in fact flirt with people pretty readily. You know your sister better than I but I am not surprised they get along."

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"Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens."

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"We will! How are you doing?"

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"Very well. Should I take a moment to figure out how to summarize it in non-technical detail?"

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"Sure!"

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She does this! She is very enthusiastic about her summary. There is excited gesticulation.

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He is an attentive audience.

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He's good at that. She appreciates it.

Eventually she leaves, trying not to worry too much about their siblings.

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All of her clothes go missing one day and turn up with stunningly pretty hot pink lace frills added, three days later, on the clothesline.

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...Nice.

She wears the newly-lacy clothes around, and a few days after that his shirts start disappearing and turning up in places Huan's likely to find them embroidered elaborately in multicolored designs with sparkly thread.

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This seems like a strict improvement! He plants a bunch of really vibrant fast-growing flower seeds in cobblestone-looking squares of dirt and replaces the ones on her walkway so one day she comes outside to a flower path instead of a stone one.

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She picks her way carefully through the flowers and replaces nearly every object in his room with one exactly like it except its chromatic opposite.

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She has to have inside help. He corners Marillë.

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"Hi?"

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"How's your sister been getting into the house unseen?"

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"How's she been what?"

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He gestures with a magnificently embroidered sleeve.

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"I have no idea. Maybe it was the statues."

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"Of course it was the statues. I'm trying to figure out who helped them. Who sided with the statues against their own people."

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"I wish you the best of luck."

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"Couple things from my room I'd like back."

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"I'll let her know. What things?"

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He lists them.

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"Okay, I'll let her know. She doesn't want to actually hurt you."

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"She hasn't. I just wanna know who's her inside agent."

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"It's not me and I don't know who it is."

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"Okay."

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"I understand why you would think so, but honestly I'm not yet sure enough this won't end in tears to be willing to get involved. Good skill finding the culprit."

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"Thanks." And he goes off to corner his brothers.

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And Marille goes off to tell her sister to give his stuff back.

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NIce of her! He believes her about not being involved but he can't figure out who was.

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Excellent.

The next day every item on the list he gave Marille is back in his room with a brightly-colored ribbon attached to each one.

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He considers various methods of laying a trap for the intruder and settles for moving out of the house without telling anyone where he's going. 

 

 

And finding her glitter source and covering her whole floor in several inches of it.

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She sweeps up the glitter carefully and considers her next move. Without as easy access to his environs she's at a marked disadvantage.

She acquires materials and tries to find him.

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That's going to take some doing. He rode with Oromë for nearly a hundred Years.

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He has to resurface some time. Presumably. She can wait.

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Oh, sure, he'll stroll into the city every few days and pick up miscellaneous things and play with his kid brothers. But then he'll leave, and she can't follow him.

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Can she enlist the aid of his kid brothers and/or her secret insider to lead him into a trap on one of these incursions?

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Probably. What's the plan?

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Overpowering floral scent. And glitter. And bright pigments.

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"Sure. This is ridiculous, though."

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"That's why I can't get Marille to help."

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"And that doesn't inspire you to back down?"

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"No, why would it?"

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"What'd'you need?"

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She explains her ambush plan.

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"You know, he's not going to get mad at you, he might actually get mad at me."

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"Marille did mention he wanted to know who I had helping me, he thought it was her at first."

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"And she's too sensible."

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"She is. Anyway, this was never intended to get anyone actually hurt, if you think it'll damage your relationship..."

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"It'll probably be fine, I'm just wondering what your endgame is, here."

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"That is a very good question."

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"Had you not thought about it."

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"It's fun! I dunno, it was--I dumped glitter on him, he swore revenge, I said I'd top whatever he did--things just sort of. Happened."

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"I'm sure! But - are you just going to keep it up forever? Until something goes wrong?"

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"...I don't want something to go wrong because of this. Until one of us does something the other can't top without something going wrong, I guess I thought..."

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"Seems like a tiny bit of a hard target to hit just right -"

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"Yeah. I dunno, I should think about it."

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"I am happy to help you with the ambush but I kind of want to know what the bigger plan is here."

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"And the answer to that is 'there kind of isn't one yet' and if you want to put this off until there is I'm fine with that."

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"Is one going to appear?"

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"It's starting to sound like I ought to figure one out."

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"Well, lemme know if you need help."

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She goes home and thinks about it.

She starts hanging around her sister's vicinity more often and the next time Tyelcormo shows up she catches him in a non-ambush fashion.

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"Hey."

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"Hey.

So--this thing we're doing? I like it a lot. It's fun. But, like, it is escalating--that's part of the point--and there's only so much it can do that before someone gets hurt. Speaking of which, sorry for stealing your stuff. That--could very easily have crossed a line, even if it didn't. And I was asking for my informant's help setting up my next revenge and they asked me what the endgame was and I realized I didn't know."

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"S'fine, I'm not that attached to my stuff. I didn't have an endgame either."

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"We should--probably figure something out, I hate to interject sense into fun but I don't really want to vindicate Marille's worries..."

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"What's she worried about?"

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"That we'll escalate too far and someone will get hurt by accident."

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"Doesn't seem super likely."

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"True, but--there's only so much farther we can escalate."

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"True."

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"And I like you and I would kind of like to interact with you in a less--oppositional--manner than this."

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"We can call it a draw."

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"Okay. Now I just have to figure out what to do with the stuff I was going to ambush you with."

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"And, like, what we're doing instead."

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"Yeah. I know you spend a decent fraction of your time running around the countryside with your magic dog hunting things..."

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"I do."

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"Sounds fun, but maybe not something I want to make a default what with my twin attached to Tirion."

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"We could kidnap her?"

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"Tempting, but that might fall under 'actual harm'."

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"Well, I'll see you when I'm in town, anyway. I do stop by sometimes."

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"Yeah. And, you know, I can come along sometimes. Just not all the time."

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"You'd want to?"

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"I haven't tried it! If I hate it I can just, you know, not do it again, and I like you, and getting away from--well, almost everyone in Tirion who isn't related to one of us, it seems like sometimes--sounds nice."

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"Definitely the best part."

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"Most people in Tirion are pretty okay over, like, the short term, but. We live here! Because family."

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"I don't know why my dad didn't pack up Years ago. Nelyo, maybe."

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"Seems plausible. Also I think the linguistics guild might be hard to convince to move?"

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"The people he likes would follow him."

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"It could just be Maitimo. I don't really know your dad that well, mostly I have secondhand reports from Marille."

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"What's she think of him?"

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"He deserves his reputation for genius and has poor social skills so you can assume that if he says something hurtful it was probably not intended that way."

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"He doesn't have poor social skills it's that most people suck."

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"Fair."

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"He's fine around people who don't."

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"Marille hasn't had any trouble, so I have no evidence against that."

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"Good."

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"Marille's not a terrible person, she's just--more in the habit of communicating with them on their level?"

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"Wasn't accusing her of being one, she seems okay. But I sort of default to expecting bad news."

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"Fair enough."

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"Why d'you want to travel?"

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"Because I like you and I like trying new things and the intersection seems obvious?"

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"Okay. Did you have a 'where' in mind?"

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"Not really."

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"I've been thinking of going down south again, it's pretty there."

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"They have dinosaurs there, right? I don't think I've actually seen those."

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"Really? What have you been doing with your life, dinosaurs are excellent. I adopted one when I was twenty."

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"What, really?"

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"My parents made me give her back, they were worried she'd eat Moryo."

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"Aww."

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"I was pretty upset about it."

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"I'm sorry," she says sympathetically.

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"It's fine."

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"Well, you've got Huan now."

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"Doesn't even nibble my little brothers."

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"Not even if they're being annoying and you ask nicely?"

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"Maybe he could be talked into it."

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"If anyone asks you didn't get the idea from me."

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"No one'd dare suggest my escapades are the fault of anyone but me."

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"That sounds almost like a challenge but I'm not sure how I'd go about meeting it..."

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"Trying to get me to do anything I don't completely want to be doing isn't just a challenge, it's impossible."

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"Wasn't thinking of that. I was thinking of coming up with something you would want to do but wouldn't have thought of on your own."

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"That you could maybe do, but I'd still be to blame if I pulled it off."

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"But if you wouldn't have been if I hadn't suggested it and I suggested it with the deliberate intention of having it happen then it would also be my fault. It would be both of our faults."

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"Sure, if you really want to be at fault for things."

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"Well, when you put it that way..."

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"Tempted to leave it to me? I have royal immunity to consequences."

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"Ooh."

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"Anyway, I'll let you know next time I'm going way out of town."

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"Cool.

I'll tell you what I was going to ambush you with if you'll tell me where you've been hiding."

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"Different place every time. I don't need much to live on."

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"Cool. Good for you."

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"You don't either. You can kinda do fine without a single thing Tirion's selling."

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"Well, that's true, but I do find that it's more convenient to have a consistent place to store things like bright-pink-lace-trimmed clothing."

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"I leave most of my nice stuff at the house."

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"Makes sense."

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"Leaves it vulnerable to pranksters, though."

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"I gave it back!"

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"I wasn't complaining!"

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"Good."

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"Some of those pranks took serious effort."

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"They did!"

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"What d'you do all day when you're not messing with anyone?"

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"It varies. I haven't found anything I really want to do with myself, in the long term, so I--bounce, mostly. I'm not really good at anything but I'm okay at lots of things."

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"You can come over for dinner sometime. No guarantee you'll see your sister, though."

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"Yes, yes, she has been swallowed by the nerd herd."

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"I'll see you there anyway."

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"I look forward to it!"

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Some people are mildly disappointed that the dramatics ended without bloodshed, but Tyelcormo's brothers aren't among them and mostly smile at her.

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That's good; Tyelcormo's family is pretty great.

...People are disappointed it ended without bloodshed? Really? Who?

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Oh, you know, it's just that Tyelcormo is the disaster of the royal house and it's terribly entertaining to watch what he gets up to.

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Ahuh. Yeah, Ahyadacil would be disappointed in you all if she had higher baseline expectations of people.

Not that she says that out loud. ...To them, anyway. She's perfectly willing to express the sentiment to people it's not aimed at.

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"There're worse things to have a reputation for. And of course they want respite from their boring, boring lives."

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"Yeah, but the fact that they think you're a disaster doesn't reflect well on them."

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"I mean, fuck 'em, but they think I'm a disaster at least partially on purpose, I was not trying to impress them and I didn't. That's - sort of a fair trade."

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"Yeah, but, like, it's not that I'm judging them for 'thinking you're a disaster' as an atomic concept, it's that the things you actually do are things I'm judging them for considering disastrous."

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"...fair."

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"I try."

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And he plans out a trip south. He doesn't make it any shorter or more comfortable to accommodate her, but he does tell her what to expect. He'll be gone most of a Year.

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Well, if she hates it she can just not do it again. She tells her sister and parents how long she expects to be gone so they'll know when to start pestering Mandos if she gets eaten by a dinosaur and shows up when it's time to go.

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She isn't super likely to get eaten by a dinosaur but it's wise not to assume Mandos'd, like, think to notify anyone if she did. They head out.

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Among the myriad skills she is decent but not fantastic at are several travel-related ones.

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Good! Not that he can't catch enough food for both of them but it's more fun if he doesn't have to.

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Yeah she's not even on the same continent as his skill level by any stretch of the imagination but she can generally get something.

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Well, he had Oromë teaching him for ages.

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Yeah, it's not, like, surprising that he's so much better than her.

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"You been down south?"

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"Once. Only to the city, though."

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"What for?"

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"Marille had been corresponding with someone there and wanted to meet them for something. I didn't have anything better to do so I tagged along."

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"What'd you think?"

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"It was way better than Tirion!"

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"It really is, I wish I could get my family to move."

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"Unfortunately Tirion continues to have a higher concentration of smart people, even if it's worse In every other way."

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"Wouldn't continue having that if my family moved."

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"True. Wouldn't solve your oldest brother's attachment, though."

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"True. He'd try taking everyone along with him and that'd rather defeat the point."

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"The poor Southerners don't deserve that."

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"They really don't. It'd mess up everything."

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"Alas. We'll just have to find some other solution."

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"I mean, I have it basically solved, I just don't visit much. They live."

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"Yeah."

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"You manage there."

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"Yeah. People being terrible mostly doesn't get--intrusive--on a regular basis, and Marille would be miserable if she had to leave--learning things is really, really valuable to her--and I'd be miserable if I had to leave her in the long term. So I manage."

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"What'd you be doing if more of her work was portable?"

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"Probably move south and see if I can actually find something I want to spend enough time on to get really good at instead of just okay."

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"Makes sense."

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"Dunno which part would be nicer. Tirion wouldn't be so bad if only I were good at something."

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"Yeah, I felt that way a lot when I was younger."

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"I'm glad you found something. Even if it's not a very Tirion-helpful thing."

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"It's totally useless. But it's being totally useless with a Vala, gets Tirion off your back a bit."

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"It's not totally useless. People do have to eat. Especially people who also hate Tirion and would like to travel with you for a while to get away from it and didn't ride with a Vala."

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"I mean, we could eat plants."

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"This is better."

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"True."

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"Also your skillset was presumably highly useful during the revenge cycle and that was excellent."

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"Sure, that's a really useful thing to be able to do, get into prank wars with random strangers."

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"I'm not a random stranger, my sister's one of your dad's apprentices!"

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"That makes her a non-random stranger! I'm probably that degree of acquaintanced with half the city!"

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"I'm not random because I fail to be Tirionesquely terrible?"

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"Well, now you're not random. But when glittered I had rather little information."

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"You had the information that you looked even prettier than usual. But I take your point."

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"Yes, true, I knew you had some reasonable aesthetic tastes."

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"But that probably doesn't make me non-random," she concedes, "since out of the many things that are wrong with Tirion 'lacks aesthetic value' isn't one of them."

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"Stunningly pretty fools, the lot of them."

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"...Although your family is significantly prettier than average, and also significantly less foolish...hm...where would you rate Marille and I in terms of prettiness? Maybe there's a relevant correlation we could rub in the faces of people who care about prettiness but not non-foolishness."

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"Dunno, my cousins are stunning and stunningly stupid, the lot of them. And the Vanyar are supposed to be the fairest."

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"I guess you're just really lucky then."

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"Or you're biased. If everyone thinks the princes are the prettiest it's like, maybe their standard for prettiness includes prince-ness somehow."

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"I suppose it's possible that some people would have that heuristic."

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"Most people, I'd think."

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"Yeah. I dunno, my feelings about you being a prince mostly boil down to being grateful it's not making anything awkward."

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"I mean, I try pretty hard to project that I'm not an excitingly powerful prince."

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"Congratulations, it's working!"

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"I have no idea how the rest of them manage it. It seems in bad taste to ask, somehow."

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"According to Marille your father and Curufinwe manage it by being such overwhelming nerds that it kind of drowns everything else."

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"Yeah, I buy that. But, like, Nelyo and Cáno? Everybody loves them."

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"According to Marille Nelyafinwe manages it by princeing so excellently. No idea about Canafinwe."

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"Princing so excellently no one falls in love with him? I am - disappointed in the population of Tirion again."

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"You lost me. I thought we were talking about absence of awkwardness."

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"That's, like, the main thing making it awkward. Usually."

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"...Is people falling in love?"

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"Wanting to get married, I didn't say anything about love."

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"You said it about your brother. 'Princing so excellently no one falls in love with him.'"

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"Okay, fair. Anyway. Stuff in that vein."

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"Huh. Sounds annoying."

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"Nothing annoys Nelyo but I don't know how he handles it."

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"You could ask."

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"That'd be weird."

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"I could get Marille to ask him?"

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"That'd still be weird."

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"If you say so."

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"He'd read too much into it."

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"...He'd think she was hitting on him?"

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"No, no, he'd notice that, he'd just try to figure out why I wanted to know."

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"And curiosity isn't a good enough answer?"

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"Dunno. Maybe."

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"None of my business, I guess."

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"I just don't want to get his hopes up that I'm going to be - better for public image."

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"Ah."

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"Cause I'm not."

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"You are not! It's endearing."

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"It is unclear to me if Maitimo finds it so!"

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"I have no insight there."

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"Didn't think so."

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"Oh well. If you don't know I'm not sure who would."

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"I mean, I actually don't pay nearly as much attention to them as most people. But I don't want to ask most people, either."

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"Yeah."

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And they continue their winding way south. He occasionally makes detours for pretty waterfalls or excellent forests.

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Wow. This is so much better than last time.

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"How'd you two travel last time?"

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"Pretty much straight there."

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"That's no fun."

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"I can see that now!"

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"Did you two go alone?"

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"Yeah."

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"That's fun. Nicer than travelling supervised."

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"Most things are nicer unsupervised, in my opinion."

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"Depends how incompetent you are, but yeah -"

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"Okay, that's fair."

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"Dunno the point of living here and not learning how to move around, but lots of people'd say what's the point of living here and not being stellar at metalworking."

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"Yeah."

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"Which I tried."

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"I can imagine."

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They reach the city. It's vertical, built into cliffs that stretch so tall even Elven eyes strain to see the bottom from the top. At the top the air is terribly thin and at the bottom it is usually foggy.

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It's beautiful. In a very different way from Tirion, but no less for that. Ahya had--not forgotten, exactly, but...

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Remembering pretty things just isn't the same. He crows delightedly. Huan goes bounding off and comes back a while later with a spider the size of his head.

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"That is so cool," she says, examining the spider.

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"They're bigger here because of something about the air, forget what exactly."

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"We could ask!"

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"Ask who?"

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"Where'd you find out the first time?"

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"Oromë."

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"Oh. Never mind, then."

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"At least not immediately."

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"Well, yes, presumably you're going to see him again at some point."

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"He'll probably say 'oh, go ask Yavanna' and I won't bother."

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"Oh well."

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"You could ask her."

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"True. This is less convenient, but I probably will. I'm curious now."

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"Getting the Valar to actually explain stuff is great. They're terrible at it but sometimes just a tiny bit makes sense and it's like a whole new world...."

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"Sounds amazing."

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"You haven't talked with one?"

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"I have...reasons to want to avoid too much scrutiny from them."

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"They're not all the same. Oromë knows me really well."

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"I'm glad to hear it." I, um, you're not the only person who I know is attracted to the same gender. It's not that I think it's likely that the Valar could use me to get to them, but. I sorta got a little paranoid about it.

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They don't actually do anything, you know. Even if they know.

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Except Lorien.

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Still doesn't, unless you ask.

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Okay.

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If their parents would practically drag them there or something I get being careful, but they do ask.

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I don't know if they would or not. I like to think they wouldn't, but--I don't know.

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Mmmhm.

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I never even told my own parents about my one experimental kiss. I mean, I don't think they'd get seriously upset over it--it was just once, and my dad's pretty chill, and that's--not the kind of thing my mom tends to get unchill over--but sometimes I wonder. If it had worked, if I had felt anything--and they had found out--

 

Would I have lost them. Because it would be losing them, if they dragged me to Lorien, I'd never be able to forgive them enough to fix what we had had--

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I'm pretty sure my parents would be like 'our children can do as they please' which is nice.

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Yeah. I don't think they'd do that, I really don't--I think my mom would react like your parents and my dad would sigh and say he loved me anyway and he wasn't going to make me do anything I wasn't willing to but I don't know.

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Well. Luckily, all nice and appropriately attracted to boys. 

 

 

I really hate everyone.

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My parents are actually mostly great but yeah almost everyone is--ugh.

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If Eru wanted things one way he could've made them, you know, that way.

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Yeah, I don't know what's up with that.

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People say Melkor, but they say that for everything bad that happens.

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And that doesn't really explain people born in Valinor.

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I mean, could've done something hereditary, some things are. But yeah, probably not.

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I think most people aren't descended from former captives of Melkor.

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At least not most Elves.

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Most people in Valinor, which was the category of people I meant. I have no insight into how often orcs experience same-gender attraction.

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Now that'd be an interesting research project.

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The question is: which would be more challenging, gathering the data, or presenting it in a way that didn't stimulate Tirionesque idiocy on the subject?

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Both sound pretty insurmountable, but one sounds like it'll someday be possible.

 

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Oh? Which one?

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Boats that can cross the ocean.

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Something your dad's planning?

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No, it's too - mechanical, not insight-driven, not theory-driven. But someone'll come up with it eventually, one assumes.

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Oh. Huh. Makes sense, I guess.

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He doesn't invent literally everything.

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True enough. You just seemed confident enough that I thought you might have particular reason to expect it.

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I'm sure most stuff will get invented eventually.

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A significant chunk of it by your dad!

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True.

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And your brother. Mustn't discount the other Curufinwe.

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Who is, Eru help us all, planning to have kids of his own. Probably seven of them.

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That could turn up interesting patterns.

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You think?

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Sure! I mean, he's so much like your dad--will his kids be like him and you and the rest of your brothers, what'll their mom be like and how much will that affect things..."

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Only one out of seven of us is much like our dad.

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And that's kind of weird!

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Is it? He's pretty - one of a kind.

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Well, yeah, but--I'm inclined to guess that that's just because other people don't happen to be like that, not that his--selfness--has some kind of "uniqueness" inherent trait?

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I mean, part of it's probably also his childhood.

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Yeah.

But, like, that didn't happen to Curufinwe. And he's--probably a happier person than your dad, but--

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Still a lot like him, yeah.

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So who knows.

I wish him skill finding a wife who also wants seven kids, though.

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True, that bit might be challenging.

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Your mom's really impressive that way.

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She's just as stubborn as my dad.

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Your whole family sounds really cool.

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They are. 

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You're so lucky. Six siblings, and that high-quality.

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Don't think it was luck, but yeah.

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Well, whatever word would be appropriate.

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What's the current fashionable word for heritability of traits?

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Trait inheritance, boringly enough. My dad's all over it.

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It's an interesting field.

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It is! I could probably be good at that if I really tried, I just--

I'd rather be good at making something. Less--hobnobbing with specific other smart people, more--still being useful no matter where you go.

Maybe it's petty to be so picky, but...

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I mean, it's forever, it makes sense to take time to find your actual niche.

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Yeah.

And, you know, in the meantime I'm learning things like embroidery. Speaking of which, the hot pink lace is actually quite fetching, I'm not sure if I ever thanked you for that.

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You're quite welcome.

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So much longer lasting than glitter as a prettiness-enhancing solution.

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Perhaps it'll start a trend. Tirion loves its trends.

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That it does.

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They get some rooms in the cliff-city and eat fried oversized-snail at one of the restaurants there and ask the locals where the dinosaurs are this time of Year.

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(Fried oversized snail is delicious.)

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It is!

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And presumably someone knows where there are dinosaurs.

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There are a lot of kinds of dinosaurs, it's sort of like asking where there are mammals. Nonetheless they can get a lengthy talk on watering holes and migration patterns.

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That works.

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"Shall we go find some?"

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"Sounds like a plan. What's good to start with?"

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"Something that won't eat you. We could head north ten miles?"

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"I enjoy not getting eaten! Let's do that."

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They do! Enormous, slow moving, tree-eating dinosaurs can be found decidedly disinterested in taking a bite out of them.

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"Wow."

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"How in Arda did you come down here without seeing them?"

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"Reasons."

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"...huh?"

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"I had reasons for sticking close to the city that involve other peoples' business so I'm not going to explain them."

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"...kay."

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"Sorry."

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"It's fine. Anyway, you missed out."

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"I can see that!"

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"They're amazing, aren't they?"

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"They are. I've never seen anything that--that--I can't think of a word for it."

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"Don't mention that to the linguists, they'd propose ten."

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"Would that be such a bad thing?"

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"Dunno. Ten seems a bit many."

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"Better than none!"

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"Yeah, fair."

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"I'll remember that for later, then."

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"My dad'll be delighted."

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"Good. Sounds like a win-win situation."

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"You might need a description for them of what the word is supposed to do."

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"Well, that's what nonverbal osanwe is for."

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"Wanna go in closer?"

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"Definitely."

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Closer!

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Is there a minimum safe distance, with these ones?

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They're pretty slow-moving but it'd be kind of rude at some point. Unless you want to pet one, then I can ask.

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That's why I was asking, yeah.

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Alright, I'll ask. 

 

He doesn't visibly do anything.

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She waits. Presumably he knows what he's doing.

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You can go closer if you want.

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Okay, cool.

She does that.

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And a very very large dinosaur swings its very very large head over to get a look at her and does not eat her even a little bit.

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Eeeeeee.

Can I pet--him? Her?  I don't know what gender it is.

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Go ahead. 

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She pets the dinosaur in a way that manages to combine "enthusiastic" with "trying to be careful not to disturb it."

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It seems to barely notice she exists.

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Yeah, that's fair.

Eventually she comes back. "That was great."

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"I'm glad."

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"Thank you for asking permission for me."

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"Sure. I want to stay out a while longer."

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"Sure!"

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He stays out until well after the lights have changed, perfectly still, watching them with total delight.

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Awwww.

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And then they can head back in.

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"Next time I'm bringing paper and something to draw with."

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"You draw?"

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"It is among my mediocre talents."

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"It is a good place for it. We could come back but there're so many just as nice, to see -"

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"Right, I meant next dinosaurs, not next time we see these ones."

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"Tomorrow, first thing."

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"Awesome."

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They solicit suggestions on what to see next.

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There are so many choices!

Ahya likes the sound of the bipedal ones with the flat bills.

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"Sounds great."

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So first thing the next morning they can leave to see the duck-billed dinosaurs! Ahya remembers to bring drawing materials.

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The duck-billed dinosaurs don't want to get close, especially. That's not really a problem.

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It is not! Ahya will sketch them and at one point when the crested ones start trumpeting the Elves can sing with them.

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It's lovely.

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It really, really is.

"Thank you for bringing me. This is even better than I had imagined."

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"I really wish - everything'd - settled here."

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"That would've been nice. Might mean this place was infected with--Tirionness, though."

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"Maybe a bit, but - we're farther from Taniquetil, I really think that makes a difference."

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"That is true. And if it hadn't made enough of a difference people could always find another place and build another city-where-people-go-to-get-away-from-Tirion."

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"Yeah. There are lots of places as pretty as this."

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"It's probably too late, now, or I'd suggest getting your brother to move down here and take the city with him after all."

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"I think it's too late. And also the ideas've - ossified."

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"Yeah.

It makes me--so angry, sometimes--"

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"Mmmm?"

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"That they think they can just run our lives like that, and people listen--it's Eru's will, they say, and why does Eru will it and why should we hold that to be absolute--people don't say you should do whatever your parents tell you even once you're an adult--and people don't even ask why, they just ruin lives and scramble brains and hearts--"

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"Not very often, to be fair."

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"Ever is far too often."

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"Fair enough."

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"Dinosaurs," she reminds herself. "We are down south where this is not a problem and we are watching lovely dinosaurs and I. Don't have to think about this."

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"No, you don't." There's an odd expression on his face.

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"...Something wrong?"

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"Not at all."

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"Okay, good." She grins at him and then goes back to watching the dinosaurs.

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They are amazing.

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They are. She's going to be perfectly happy watching them and drawing them and periodically singing along with their calls for as long as they stay out.

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So will he.

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Eventually they'll have to head back. This is acceptable solely because there are other kinds of dinosaur to see later.

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There are so many kinds of dinosaurs.

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It sounds like it! "Have any recommendations for which ones should be next?"

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"I usually don't plan, just kind of wander. We're not in a hurry, and that's sort of the best part -"

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"It's pretty great. Just wandering sounds fine."

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"I don't mind if there's something you want to see in particular."

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"I'm really glad we saw the duckbills and if I think of anything else I won't be meek about letting you know but off the top of my head I can't really think of anything."

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"Okay. There's a pretty set of waterfalls if we go east tomorrow."

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"Sounds good to me!"

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It's a pretty long ride. The waterfalls make it worth it, though, as do the creatures feeding at them.

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Ohhh gorgeous. Wow. That's just--wow. 

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"What can you tell me about the animals?"

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Ooooh, so so many things. This species heads north sometimes, you can occasionally see them near Tirion, these ones have very short lives, these ones lay stunning pink eggs - and individuals, that one's hurt and that one's shy and that one's nervous...

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She listens with rapt fascination. Would it be possible to see any of the stunning pink eggs, or would that upset the parents; should she be doing or refraining from doing anything to put the nervous one at ease; what's wrong with the hurt one?

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Hard to diagnose from here; they could try singing it better. They'd probably better stay well away from the eggs but just looking wouldn't be a problem. Nervous one probably shouldn't unlearn his nervousness, people do hunt that species.

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She is in favor of singing and of seeing pink eggs!

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Cool! They sing a healing song and then go off pink-egg-hunting.

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He's probably going to find them first but this doesn't curb her enthusiasm.

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He's totally going to find them first.

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Awesome where.

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He points them out.

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They're so pretty! She admires them delightedly from a parent-soothing distance.

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They don't really need to go in to sleep, it's perfectly safe out here.

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Works for her.

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They find a spot that will remain clear of dinosaurs.

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"This trip has been so great. Thank you for bringing me."

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"You are significantly better to travel with than most people!"

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"I'm glad. Anything I am doing wrong so I can fix it?"

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"Trust me, you'd know. I tell people."

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"Should've guessed, silly me."

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"It'd be sort of unfair to be so judgmental of them otherwise."

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"Ah, of course."

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"It pisses me off when people don't tell me what they want, so have to be fair."

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"What if they don't ask because they don't think having it is worth the risk of having people know they want it if they can't?"

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"I mean, it's fine to not ask me for something if you don't want me to do anything about it, the thing that actually annoys me is not asking and then being mad I didn't know."

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"Oh. That's incredibly dickish, yeah."

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"And pretty common. Like, half of social rules are that thing, really."

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"I guess. I hadn't really thought of it like that."

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"Anyway. You're fun to travel with. I like how you're - " 

 

Shrug. "Sincere about it. I guess. Instead of doing it to have done it."

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"Well, it's something new--I wouldn't necessarily have backed out if I hadn't liked it."

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"What would you've done?'

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"Stuck out the rest of the trip to see if I changed my mind. I prefer to give things a full try even if I don't like it at first. I have changed my mind about things in the past and I don't like the idea of missing out on something good because I gave up too fast."

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"Makes sense."

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"This is better, though."

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"It really is."

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"I won't want to come every time--it really seems like I care more about proximity to my family than you do--but this is really great while I'm here."

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"Yeah, I don't miss them as long as I know they're there."

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"I miss Marille. It's worth it, definitely, but I do miss her."

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"I don't have a twin. Ambarussa are inseparable too."

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"I wouldn't call us inseparable, look how separated we currently are, but yeah."

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"Ambarussa also have mostly the same interests, I don't know what they'd do if they didn't."

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"I guess that would be convenient but I like being who I am and I like Marille being who she is so it's hard to wish we liked all the same things."

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"Yeah, fair."

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"We make it work!"

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"Pretty well, I think!"

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"Yeah."

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"Eventually we're probably gonna leave."

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"...Leave which place?"

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"Valinor."

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"Really? How?"

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"That's the only reason we haven't done it already."

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"Huh.

Cool."

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"I can't wait. There's a whole world out there."

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"It's hard to really imagine."

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"Most stuff is. You've got to go and look."

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"True enough."

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"Don't know how many people will come with us."

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"Good question."

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"I didn't really care much, but now I"m sort of thinking it'd make a lot of things hard."

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"If not very many people came? Yeah, it could."

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"More, if some people want to come and their families don't."

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"Depending on how it worked out it could be that people could change their minds. Or--not that."

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"King's opposed because he remembers what leaving Cuivienen was like, there was a lot of - not that."

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"If we're going at all presumably we could come up with something better than the way the Valar got us here."

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"If the Valar are cooperating. If they're difficult about it it very well might not be something where you can go back and forth."

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"Yeah."

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"Still worth it, but."

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"Yeah.

Thank you for telling me this far in advance."

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"You didn't seem the run-and-tell-the-Valar type."

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"Yeah, no."

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"Not that it's going to be a secret."

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"Obviously I'm going to talk to my parents and Marille about this, but I'm sure I can get them to agree not to say anything about it until it's common knowledge if that seems like a good idea."

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"I bet Marille's already guessed, a lot of my dad's projects are - pointed that direction."

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"She hasn't mentioned anything of the sort but she probably wouldn't if she wasn't sure."

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"It's probably a hundred Years off. Just - eventually."

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"Can't hurt to start preparing sooner."

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"Not if we're going to do it right, have something nicer than Valinor."

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"That would be lovely."

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"If anyone can do it it's my dad."

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"I hope so!"

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"Oh, he'll pull it off."

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"I mean, most of Valinor's problems are social, and that's not your dad's forte."

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"They'd still go away without the Valar hanging over everything - and we'd be selecting out the people who wanted to stay -"

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"You're right about the second part. I hope you're right about the first."

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"We'll have Nelyo running the place."

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"True!"

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"I really think it'll turn out fine."

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"You'd know better than I in this case."

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"I mean, I've now told you all I know. It's a goal, not a plan, at this point."

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"Yeah. Optimism, is all."

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"Yeah. And planning it is when I feel like my family really understands me."

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"Oh?"

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"I need to get out of this place. I'm the only one of us who really does. They're - not doing it for me, but it does a lot for me -"

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"Ah.

Do you want--like, a hug or something--"

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"Okay. But - I'm not that torn up about it, I'd rather be the useless son of Fëanor than anyone else."

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"I mean, you're not useless--I think you're being pretty useful to me right now--but. Yeah. I see what you mean."

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"Everything's kinda useless in Valinor. But. Yeah."

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"Kinda," she sighs.

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"Dad keeps telling Nelyo that none of his projects matter, drives him nuts."

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"I can imagine. Why does he do that?"

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"Doesn't want him wasting his potential."

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"I see."

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"It's a compliment, means he thinks he has any. My father doesn't care how I spend my time."

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"Ah."

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"Which is fine."

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"Okay."

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Hug.

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Hug. Hug is nice.

She changes the subject to dinosaurs. Those are also nice.

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They really are.

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She's going to talk to some people she knows when they get back to Tirion and see if anyone can do a pendant that looks like one of those pink eggs, they were so pretty.

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"Oooh, good idea."

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"I have those sometimes!"

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"Do you know where you want to go tomorrow?"

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"Nah. I still don't really know where there is to go besides what I've already seen, and I do know that I'd rather see something new."

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"We can just wander, then, I am sure we'll find lots to see out here."

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"Sounds grand to me!"

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And so the next day finds them wandering along a riverbank listening intently for dinosaurs.

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Once again it is all but inevitable that Tyelcormo will find them first. Once again this does not deter Ahyadacil.

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North of us but turn around, instead, quietly -

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...She turns around quietly.

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Not good dinosaurs for observation. Let's head out- sorry, should've heard them sooner -

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Okay. What are they?

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Deinonychus, couple of them - he sends a mental image -

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Yeah, not the best observation subjects. She attempts to cooperate with leaving quietly.

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This turns out to be difficult!

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I think they noticed us.

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Yes, they did, I am pretty sure we should continue quietly leaving - at minimum you should -

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Okay. She gamely attempts this.

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Actually, Ahya, climb a tree -

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Is there enough time--

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How slow are you at climbing trees - it comes out irritated but he's really mostly panicked -

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Shit.

She really doesn't want to be a sitting duck halfway up a tree and they're almost there--

She does something really stupid and tries to tackle the legs out from under one.

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That is really really stupid and what the hell now they have even fewer choices - and uglier ones - the one that she didn't tackle is as astonished as he is, turning around to see why the prey jumped straight at it - he can't even tell if she's been clawed open yet - 

 

- he hammers the other one with the pommel of his knife, cutting it open won't help, and it snarls and turns and he does that again, base of the neck, twice more, and it shrieks at him in annoyance and bewilderment and claws him out of the way - he dodges - 

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He's far too distracted to be cursing her for as many kinds of fool as she is right now--there's a hot, bright score down her side, ow, idiot, idiot, idiot--but she's actually got one arm pinning the legs together now and those cursed claws away from her--

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The first one decides to go for more familiar-smelling prey that doesn't keep yelling confusingly in its head, and he draws his bow and shoots the second and now is not too distracted to gasp - you idiot, Mandos would've wondered if you even wanted to be alive -

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Yeah, I figured out I was an idiot about half a second after it was too late not to be one, she says, rolling away from the corpse and probing at her injury.

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He rips her shirt off to get a closer look - he's trembling more than she is - my fault, sorry,, should've anticipated - should've given you more warning - Eru - you idiot - Eru - 

 

It's not even a bad scratch. 

 

Deep breath. 

 

"Uh," he says. "Don't - I mean, I've done stupider -"

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A dozen things flit through her mind and are discarded--too flippant, too self-centered, too nosy--and she settles on, "Are you okay? It's--bad enough I got this one killed--"

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He kisses her. 

 

 

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She makes a surprised squeaking noise and then kisses back.

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And his heart rate settles slightly and - 

"Oh, sorry, I'm sorry, I -" - hug -

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"...For what?"

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"Uh. That was - I wasn't going to -"

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"Oh. Okay."

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"I'm not an asshole, I would've asked -"

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"...The answer would've been yes. I mean, um, I wasn't going to do anything because--I didn't want to seem like it was because of the prince thing--"

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"Yeah, might've thought that. Sorry. Anyway. Uh, Ahya, may I kiss you -"

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"Absolutely."

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He does that.

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It's lovely. You're really good at this.

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You just think that because of the adrenaline. Scientific fact. Squeeze.

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Mmm. Well, for optimal science we'll have to test it after the adrenaline's worn off, won't we?

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Giggle - guess so - anyway it was really sweet of you to feel bad that I had to kill one, and it's not like I actually had a plan for getting out of that, so -

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Well, it was my fault.

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Yeah, but most people wouldn't feel bad.

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If you're still capable of thinking of most people while I'm kissing you I'm probably not doing it well enough. I should fix that.

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What a good idea.

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Yes. Yes it is.

...Probably eventually they're going to have to do something other than kiss.

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They're kind of out in the middle of nowhere with a dinosaur corpse, yeah, they should head in.

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Yeah.

...And Ahya needs to fix her injury, it's not that bad but ow it's annoying when she forgets about it and it suddenly reminds her.

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That too. They can sing on the way back and get it looked at once they're back in the city.

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Sounds like a plan.

...Should they do anything with the dinosaur corpse first?

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No; that happens in the wild, some scavengers'll be delighted.

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Okay.

(She still feels kind of guilty over it.)

Back to the city, then.

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They make it back much faster than they made it out; they're motivated.

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Yeah. And then she can get her wound treated and hopefully not get judged too badly by the locals.

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If they are judging her they do not make it apparent!

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Oh good.

So, she says, a little later, I'm not hopped up on adrenaline right now. Science?

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He giggles. And kisses her.

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This is delightful and distracting but after a little while she can report that she still thinks he's really good at this when adrenaline is not involved.

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"I don't usually -

 

 

We are leaving. Eventually. I don't want to be - unclear about that -"

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"Leaving--oh, Valinor. Yeah. I--I can't promise anything until I've talked to Marille and my parents."

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"Yeah. So. We shouldn't -"

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"Shouldn't--get too attached. Until we know. Yeah."

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"Thanks for coming out here with me."

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"I'm glad I did! It's been wonderful."

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"Really has."

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"I don't think more kissing is likely to get me any more attached than the extant amount already has."

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"Well, if you're sure."

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"I'm sure enough."

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Works for him.

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Awesome.

(She hopes she can talk the others around--she hopes she can keep this--but even if she can't, she'll regret not getting what she can while she can if she doesn't.)

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As long as he's not leading her on or anything.

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Nope, she's going into this with eyes open.

Eyes and lips gosh he's a good kisser.

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Several hundred miles north and probably several months earlier Marille is throwing herself even more fervently into her work. She supports her twin's traveling-related decisions! But Ahya's absence is lonely and if she is thinking about a fascinating technical problem she isn't thinking about Ahya being out of osanwe range.

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Ambarussa tell him solemnly that this is very sad and mean of Tyelcormo. He will defend Tyelcormo on charges of meanness but it does seem a little hard on her. 

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"...I mean, she talked to me about it beforehand, I told her to go. It isn't fair to either of us if we can never be apart--and maybe it'll be me who wants to travel next time," she tells him when it comes up. "It--matters more that this be a thing we can do than that I feel lonely while she's gone."

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"I can't help but feel like there ought to be a lovely middle ground we're not seeing. Ambarussa think Tyelcormo should just take shorter trips, but I don't think that's it."

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"If we do find a middle ground that'll be lovely for the future but I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to put everything on hold until we do."

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"Oh, not 'put things on hold', I'm thinking like 'invent powered flight'."

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"...Well, I meant in terms of 'my sister and your brother shouldn't have to postpone their trip' not 'the engineers shouldn't have to put everything down'. But that would be a cool solution."

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"Bet you could do it, too."

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"Probably eventually! There's no obvious route there from what I'm currently working on..."

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"What's that again?"

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She describes it. It's mostly theoretical stuff having to do with certain properties in various substances.

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"None of which are showing any signs of taking flight?"

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"None! I mean, theoretically this one could be used to push something off the ground but you wouldn't be able to get it very far off the ground under any reasonable circumstances and you'd have to have, like, specially treated iron right underneath it anywhere you wanted it in the air..."

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"I confess to having no idea how it could be done, but a suspicion we'll get there eventually. Well, you lot will."

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"Eventually, yeah."

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"You have friends in the city I could drag over to cheer you up?"

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"I have friends who aren't my sister, yeah. Might make more sense for me to visit them more often, honestly, considering how often I'm not really interruptible-by-visitors."

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"I think learning to pace yourself is one of the most important things to get out of an apprenticeship with my father and one he is not always well-equipped to teach."

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"That, and this whole thing started when my sister got bored while waiting for me to be visitable and decided to prank your brother!"

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"Ah, so there are practical reasons to be more visitable! Lest your friends prank a brother less amenable to it!"

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"Most of my friends are less inclined to that kind of behavior but I don't really want to find new and exciting failure modes, so."

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"Perhaps some sort of bird-powered mail system is more tractable than powered flight."

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"Possibly! I don't really know much about birds, though...you know, this sounds like the kind of project Tyelcormo could actually be really useful on."

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"I will bring it to his attention the next time he is willing to entertain mine."

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"I'm not sure what if anything I could contribute to a project like that but obviously if you can use my help let me know."

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"Of course."

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"You're good at that kind of thing. Not that you didn't know that, or anything."

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"I am gifted with a people it is easy to coax into doing interesting work."

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"That does seem a significant advantage, yes."

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"I'd be such a terrible prince of the Vanyar."

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"I don't actually know much about the Vanyar as a whole aside from rumors and stereotypes and I make a policy of not giving undue weight to those."

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"I studied chemistry in Valimar for Years and it was lovely but I am not suited to rule them."

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"Lucky you're a Noldo, then."

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"I suppose it's possible that it goes the other way around, that we grow into a temperament suited to our people -"

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"I think there's people that hypothesis doesn't explain."

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"Oh?"

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"Well, Tyelcormo, for one."

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"He's very Noldorin about finding the Noldor such a disappointment."

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"I suppose."

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"What he should have been, of course, is Avari."

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"That makes a lot of sense."

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"Oromë thinks so too."

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"Really? I have to admit, I'm a little surprised to hear that a Vala thinks someone would be better off outside of Valinor."

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"Oh, they were very divided on taking us here in the first place. Ulmo was opposed, Oromë - has declined to specify how he voted on it."

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"Huh."

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"The Valar vary tremendously."

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"Well, I suppose people do. And the Valar are people, I think, even if they're a very very different kind of people from Elves..."

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"Yes, definitely."

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"There's few enough of them that you wouldn't necessarily expect the level of variation that you can find in Elves or--come to think of it--Maiar, but I suppose if you selected fourteen Elves and fourteen Maiar at random you wouldn't necessarily expect them to be unusually similar."

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"And you'd certainly expect some disagreement, if you grabbed fourteen Elves, on the wisdom of coming to Valinor."

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"Yeah--of course, then you have to ask yourselves what pool of Elves you're selecting from, exactly--"

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"All the Elves! Seems like the only fair way -"

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"Well, if you're selecting from both Elves who've never seen Valinor and Elves who have, it seems like you'd have an information imbalance..."

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"We've never seen Endorë..."

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"A bi-directional information imbalance, then.I suppose you could select only from people who were born in Endore and came to Valinor, but that limits the available pool rather sharply...of course, if we're saying we're selecting from all the Elves, ever, we could say we're selecting a future version of any given Elf who has in the interim acquired relevant information."

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"That sounds much harder to do, somehow. A Vala probably could just speak to every Elf; future versions with different information is a different problem..."

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"Oh, when you said all the Elves I thought you meant including ones who hadn't been born yet."

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"I suppose that'd be maximally thorough, but yes, I have no idea how-"

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"I mean, this is all just hypothetical anyway."

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"Not entirely."

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"Oh?"

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"Someday presumably the pigeon-messengers and the powered flight will get us back in touch with the opposite shore."

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"Well, yeah, but you're probably not going to immediately attempt to select fourteen Elves at random at that point."

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"No, but the question of whether it's nicer there or here will become relevant."

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"Well, true. At that point it's hopefully less a question of polling everyone than of letting them decide for themselves on an ongoing basis, though."

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"Depends exactly how easy it gets, I suppose, and how the Valar feel about that."

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"Yeah. Well. I did say 'hopefully'."

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"I share your hopes."

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"For what it's worth, I'm glad. 'How easy it gets' is an engineering problem, obviously--I wonder if we can do anything about the other."

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"I am hopeful. I think we've built some trust with the Valar."

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"That's certainly something."

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"And hopefully it will all happen gradually enough they can grow accustomed to it."

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"Yeah. It's not as though we have a way across at all, yet."

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"The sense I get is that it's hundreds of Years out still."

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"Most likely, yes. We have time."

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"All the time in the world."

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"Yeah--it would be better not to take more time than we need to, though, there're people who didn't come to Valinor who've had loved ones die and be reembodied, here."

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"I think moving slowly enough not to startle the Valar is a higher priority."

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"I do agree. It's just--hard not to imagine being separated from Ahyadacil like that."

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"If we mess up too badly it might be that way forever. Even ten unnecessary Ages is better than permanently compromising our ability to fix it."

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"I know."

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"Hopefully it all goes smoothly and the Valar are supportive before we even have the means."

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"Yeah. --I should probably stop thinking about this from this angle, for now, it's not generating any interesting insights and thinking 'but what if I were separated from Ahyadacil for Ages' is particularly--obstructive--when she is in fact not around, it's hard to think reasonably about it."

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Hug?

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Hug. "Most people with loved ones dead came to Valinor, I think."

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"And people probably don't die as much anymore since then--but it doesn't never happen."

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"It happens."

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"At least twins are rare."

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"Separation would be tough on the rest of us too, though."

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"Yeah, it's--the difference between a bad thing I'm currently predisposed to have difficulty handling reasonably and a bad thing I'm not, not a bad thing and a less bad thing."

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"I am sure my father'd forgive you some time off, if you wanted to go with her -"

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"I want my relationship with my sister to be an unambiguously good thing, not a thing that means I can't do things because I need her too much."

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"You can do things later - we have forever -"

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"Yeah, but--

Ahyadacil has kind of an enormous crush on your brother and she's not planning to, like, tell him that or anything, because apparently girls making a move on him because he's a prince is a thing that happens, but it would make traveling for a Year with her and him really, really awkward."

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"...ah. Yes, that would do it."

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"Please don't tell anyone, she has what is a legitimately good reason for wanting to keep it to herself. But, yeah. Also it would be boring? Like, nature is beautiful and all, but I'd go nuts if I had nothing to do for most of a Year besides stare at it."

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"I think they occasionally shoot at it. And there're people down south, who presumably get up to some engineering occasionally. I won't tell anyone, but - Tyelcormo may grumble about hating everyone in Tirion, but he's not planning to handle prince-hunting with eternal celibacy."

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She does not comment on things she's heard about his lack of celibacy.

"Yeah, I dunno, if she doesn't get over him or something she'll probably bring it up eventually, but not until she's confident that he wouldn't suspect her of only liking him for his prince-ness, and I don't know how long that would take but almost certainly more than a Year."

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Nod. "They'd be good for each other."

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"I got that impression but I haven't known him very long so it wasn't a terribly high-confidence impression."

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"I like playing matchmaker but not with my brothers, seems - a conflict of interests, or something. But Tyelcormo deserves - someone who will be indifferent to, rather than deigning to overlook, his - indiscretions - and I think he's gone and found one."

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"Assuming I take your meaning correctly, yes, he has."

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"Not the only criterion but it speaks to several of them."

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"Yes, from what I've seen they have a similar--indifference to social mores."

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"We can only hope they don't come back already married, that'll be hard to smooth over."

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"Yes, yes it would."

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"I don't think he would but I wouldn't be astonished -"

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"I think Ahya would be opposed to the concept of marrying someone without letting me know first but I wouldn't be shocked if there were circumstances where she'd do it anyway, yeah."

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"It'd be specifically to avoid involving us in any respect that'd motivate him. But - I don't think so -"

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"Yeah, it probably won't happen."

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"Sorry, didn't mean to worry you."

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"I'll live. And it is in fact highly unlikely so I will cease to worry after a little while."

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"I worry continually. I should probably come up with a better plan sometime."

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"I don't think there's a lot of point to worrying? There's nothing we can actually do until they get back, so worrying about it until then wouldn't be productive. Coming up with a plan might well be, though."

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"Ride out to reach them once they're in range, so if there are problems we have a day to think about them before the whole city knows?"

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"Yeah, that's a good idea. And maybe we could convince them to shoo a little longer to give us more than a day."

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"If needed, yeah."

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"Yeah. Do you think there are likely to be problems other than the hypothetical impulsive marriage?"

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"I can think of lots of things but none likely and we should perhaps not insult them by preparing too aggressively for implausible kinds of silliness."

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"I think it depends on the kind of silliness? Ahya goes around wearing the clothing Tyelcormo adorned with bright pink lace."

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"Does that require preparing for?"

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"That specific example, no, but there are probably things that would require preparing for that if I told her I was preparing for them she'd go, 'yeah, fair enough' whether or not she had done them."

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"Fair enough. Let me know if you think of them."

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"I will."

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"And stop by every once in a while, won't you?"

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"Of course! Who else could I talk to when your dad's being exasperating?"

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"Lots and lots of people find my dad exasperating!"

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"Yeah, but most of them will assume I don't like him if I complain to them, and also it might get back to him and your brothers, and then I'm sunk."

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"- fair enough."

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"Your family is great! And also sometimes really exasperating!"

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"These two observations are wholly compatible!"

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"They are! And yet, I suspect that if I tried to make these assertions to your brother Curufinwe, they would not be positively received!"

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"I think it's about, like, presumed motives. What is the point of telling someone that you find their family exasperating - well, I can think of a hundred, but I bet he thinks of two, which are 'to hurt them' and 'to be later able to justify hurting them'."

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"Whereas the actual motive is--having an emotion and wishing to express it. But it's hard to blame him for that interpretation."

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"I think it's pretty fair to blame him, actually, but - yeah, it is what it is."

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She shrugs. "People can do what they can do. I have more capability to be empathetic and emotionally thoughtful than him, so if I want a positive relationship with him it's on me to navigate it.

I did not mean that as condescending as it came out."

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"I remember deciding when I was three that if I didn't want my father to keep saying things that hurt people I had to manage conversations better."

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"When you were three? I'm sorry to hear that."

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"Does not seem to have done any damage."

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"That's good.

When I was three I thought my parents were perfect and it was--good, that I had that. Maybe it wouldn't have been as nice for you, but," she shrugs. "It's something most people get to have, I think."

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"Probably. I wouldn't trade my father for anything, though."

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"I definitely wouldn't expect otherwise."

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"And I might've had that reaction to any parents, honestly."

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"My first instinct is to disagree with you but then I remember my mother's actual personality."

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"Oh?"

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"Her name is 'Ercanis' and it suits. She's...not very conciliatory, with people she doesn't respect. She has a much lower threshold for respecting people than your dad does, but..."

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"And perhaps I'm just a contrary child who would have decided the people around me were doing things wrong no matter what they were doing."

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"Maybe! Sadly, I cannot meet adorable small Maitimo to check."

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"I regret neglecting to stay adorable and small long enough to meet you."

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"Alas, by the time I was around for you to realize this error I expect it was already too late."

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"I will tell the Valar Elves grow up too fast and they should make it even slower."

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"If you do, don't let the Ambarussa know I prompted it."

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"I cannot imagine they'd blame you."

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"Ah, well, in that case I have no objection whatsoever."

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"Do you want a family yourself?"

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"In theory, I guess. I've never--it's not something I've thought about a lot? I'd need to have someone I was interested in starting a family with, first."

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"Some people do go about it the other way, but it's probably less advisable."

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"When I marry, that's who I'll be stuck with forever. Making a decision I might come to regret because I wasn't willing to wait to have kids seems tremendously unwise. I'll have all the Ages of Arda to do it in, after all."

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"That you will!"

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"So it's not really an urgent question, whether I want kids or not."

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"I suppose not. It's really remarkable how many of our people marry young."

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"Yeah. And, you know, it's not like it doesn't usually work out, but still..."

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"It usually does work out! That's perhaps even more remarkable. But, yes."

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"To be fair, if it didn't usually work out, people would probably learn not to do it."

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"We are a people of slow learners, though."

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"Some moreso than others, but I do take your point."

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"We just look good because the Vanyar and Maiar and Valar are around for comparison."

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"Well, I can't argue with that. If young marriages suddenly started turning out disastrous, it would probably take a really unfortunate amount of time for people to stop."

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"Yep."

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"Fortunately I can't think of any obvious way for that to happen."

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"If at the one thousand Year mark everyone gets sick of their spouses we wouldn't have noticed yet, but I try not to worry about things like that."

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"I think that if it happened systematically like that there probably wouldn't be an easy solution like waiting longer and being surer."

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"That too."

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"The Year engagement period certainly seems designed to solve the problem that young marriages exemplify, but I don't know, it's never seemed like an especially good solution to me."

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"No?"

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"I'm not saying it's not better than nothing, but being away from someone you love for a Year isn't fun."

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"It isn't. And makes the transition into a life together a bit awkward."

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"Yeah. I think a longer waiting period without the 'can't see each other' part would probably do at least as well, without at least some of the problems."

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"I think the worry is that if you're seeing each other it's very tempting to cut the waiting."

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"Really? Personally, I think I'd find it more tempting to just give up if giving up meant the difference between being married and being completely absent from their life instead of the difference between being married and getting to see them regularly in a nonmarried fashion."

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"And yet I think it's pretty rare to cut the engagement period short."

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"I guess it's probably the kind of thing that's different when you're experiencing it than when you're imagining it."

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"Yes, probably. My grandfather wants me to get married before he retires, so I'll - have more perspective on things."

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"Makes a certain amount of sense. Sort of introduces a problematic set of incentives, though. Good thing you're you and not someone I'd trust less to not be influenced by them."

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"Thank you."

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"You're welcome. Incentives aside, I'm sure you'll be a great King one day."

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"And I am not in a particular hurry for it to be soon."

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"All the Ages of Arda," she nods.

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"Exactly. Though someday I, too, will presumably be tired of the job and pass it on."

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"Presumably."

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"Perhaps someone will be born who is even more qualified."

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"Gosh, I don't think I have the creativity to model that in advance."

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"If I did then I could just copy him. Or her."

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"True! Although given how well you get to know people maybe you could do that sort of thing once they were around."

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"Probably. But if they're that good and want to run things, maybe when I am very old I'll want to give them the chance."

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"Maybe! Although given that you haven't even gotten to try being King yet it seems like speculating about that is probably even less productive than speculating about our siblings' hypothetical trip shenanigans."

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"Planning to eventually hand the kingdom on does effect how I mean to govern it. But fair."

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"And I sincerely doubt you'll be able to keep from meddling entirely, even if you do retire. You're a very positively meddlesome person."

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"Maybe I'll grow out of it."

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"Arda would be poorer for it."

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"Could grow into something even better."

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"That didn't still qualify as meddlesome?"

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"Maybe the world would need less meddling."

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"Wouldn't that be a sight."

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"I'm not sure what the point of having forever is if we don't eventually get around to making things nice."

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"You're not wrong!"

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"I'm never wrong!" 

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"Hmm. Never? I am suspicious of this claim."

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"Then your suspicion is terribly misplaced because I am always correct about everything."

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"This is a trap, isn't it, I'm to notice that you're incorrect about some trivial detail and when I point it out I shall look silly and pedantic, thus making you seem even more reasonable."

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"The model of reasonability, right here insisting he has never erred in any way."

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"Even as a small child? That's even more suspicious!"

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"I was unerringly small and adorable and correct about things!"

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"I completely believe that you were unerringly small and adorable."

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"Well, then, it's settled; we cannot both be wrong."

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"Now that would be implausible!"

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"Anyway. Take care. Drop by occasionally, you know me, I get lonely here running the city."

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"Of course. Take care."

And then--

Well, he wasn't wrong about throwing herself into her work and not socializing with people being a bad way to deal with loneliness and she should see her non-twin friends more often.

And after that conversation the choice of friends isn't hard. "Do you want a family" argh.

Vorondie's house is also closer to the palace than to the house of the Prince she's apprenticed to, so.

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Vorondie is pleased to see her, if more than a bit snarky about it. "Hey. It's been a while."

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"Yeah, I'm sorry, I've--been distracted. Then the Prince Nelyafinwe reminded me that being less social is an idiotic attempt at dealing with loneliness, so here I am. ...I really am sorry."

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"Aw, hey, come in," she says, ushering the other woman inside and closing the door securely. "Ahya's never been gone this long before, it's not surprising that you wouldn't be thinking clearly."

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"Mhm. I still shouldn't be--neglecting you, because I'm dealing with Feelings."

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"...You're doing the thing again. Stop it."

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"The thing?"

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"The thing where instead of dealing with your emotions like an adult you do not do that. Optional features include unhelpful self-recriminations, deciding you can't do anything about the source of your negative emotions and should therefore pretend they don't exist, deciding you can't do anything about them when this is not in fact true, putting other peoples' needs above your own because their emotions are in their heads instead of yours and therefore less overwhelming..."

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"Right. That thing. In my defense, it's a lot harder to tell when I'm doing it from the inside."

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"Eru help us both and optionally your sister; you will probably have the practice to get better at recognizing it with time. Meanwhile: you are doing it. Stop."

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"Yeah, okay," she murmurs, and slumps against her a little bit.

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"That's better. C'mon, let's actually sit down." She leads her to a convenient couch. "You're really silly sometimes, you know that?"

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"It'd be hard not to, you tell me often enough."

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"Damn straight I do. Because you are." She kisses the other woman's forehead.

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Quiet pleased noise. Snuggle.

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Snuggle. They can just sit there snuggling for a while, that's perfectly fine, especially if Marille feels like she needs to decompress.

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Yeah, that'll be lovely.

Eventually: non-forehead kiss?

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Yes, definitely.

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Excellent. Kissing: even better than snuggling.

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Marille is so right when she isn't doing unhealthy things to her emotions!

You know what's even better than just kissing, though? Kissing with hairpets.

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What a coincidence, Vorondie is also very correct about things.

It's probably not going to take that long to escalate from there. Marille really was away for too long.

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At least Marille is good at dealing productively with her mistakes when they're pointed out to her!

A very...productive...time is had by all.

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So productive!

Eventually, after, Marille says, "Today while we were talking the Prince Nelyafinwe asked me if I was going to want a family of my own."

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...Sporfly sputterings. "Seriously? What did you tell him?"

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"That I hadn't really thought about it and would need a prospective candidate before I seriously started thinking about it."

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"Well, that's one way of sidestepping the issue, I suppose."

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"Do you ever wish--we could--"

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"...Sometimes. Not consistently. We're not all--I never had an Ahyadacil, who I could tell without fear of censure and to immediately go 'well if the world says you're wrong then the world is wrong.' You have an--unusually healthy outlook of what we are, I think."

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"I love you."

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Snuggle. "I love you. I'm glad I can love you. I'm glad I didn't go to Lorien as soon as I figured myself out. It doesn't really matter anyway, we can't."

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"Yeah."

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Pensive snuggling.

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Pensive snuggling.

...Taking their minds off it?

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...Yeah, okay.

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Oh, good. Marille can be very distracting when she puts her mind to it.

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Vorondie appreciates this! Very much.

Eventually, though, she says, "Tell me less depressing things about what's happened since the last time I saw you."

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Things: Have happened. Marille accomplished the following things at her apprenticeship and had the following non-depressing exchange with the Prince and so on.

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"It'll probably do your sister a world of good if she does get Prince Sparkles to marry her," she comments when Marille mentions confessing Ahya's crush to Maitimo. "Considering that, you know, she's straight and can't get laid without getting married."

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"Vorondie."

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"What? It did you a world of good."

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"The fact that you are good at snapping me out of self-destructive mental states and good in bed are completely separate things."

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"Mm, I see your point." She combs her fingers through her girlfriend's hair.

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"Eee--a little warning wouldn't've hurt--"

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"So sorry. However shall I make it up to you?"

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"Oh, I'm guessing you have a few ideas."

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"Mm, pretty and a good guesser."

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"Mhm."

Productivity ensues.

Eventually, though, she does have to leave, with a promise to not go so long between visits this time. She didn't ask for time off from her apprenticeship, after all.

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And eventually they come back. Not married at all.

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Marille does not know this instantly because she's been reaching out to her sister with osanwe periodically since it became plausible for them to have been back in range, so the first time she talks to her sister she can't see her eyes.

Ahya! Welcome back, I missed you!

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I missed you too!

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You didn't, like, impulsively marry him, right?

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No!! Why would you even think that?

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It came up as a possibility while I was talking to Maitimo.

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He has in point of fact kissed me but it hasn't gone any farther than that.

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Congrats! What prompted it?

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Dinosaur-related stupidity, I'll explain later.

 

How do you feel about...leaving Valinor?

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Oh, that came up with Maitimo too, I talked to Amil and Atar about it, we're good to go.

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You are the best sister ever.

Out loud: "I have the best sister ever, and you can't even argue with that because your siblings are all boys."

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"Sure, conceded. What'd she do?"

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"Maitimo brought up the leaving Valinor thing while we were gone and she already talked to our parents about it."

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"And they're on board?"

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"Mhm."

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You know, I'm not totally sure where we go from here, but I'm really glad the answer isn't 'of necessity, nowhere.'

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Yeah. Nice to - be able to figure it out.

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Marille says Maitimo thought there was a chance we were going to come back already married.

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Wanna?

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Tempting, but I already told Marille we hadn't and she would be really upset if not only did she not get to come to my wedding party, I next thing to lied to her about it.

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Fair. It'd just be such a dramatic fuss.

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And the idea of going through with a Year-long separated engagement sounds like a huge hassle in and of itself, but if we were going to elope I think I would still want to have, like, a nice dinner for the occasion with my sister and parents and maybe a couple of other friends who would know not to make a fuss over it and could testify afterwards that it might have been hasty but it was definitely deliberate, that'd satisfy the people I care about satisfying and also I mostly don't care what people say about me but when I'm an embarrassment to society I do it on purpose and people thinking my potentially unwise marriage was an accident would be deeply annoying.

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Okay, fair.

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And also you're wonderful but, like, before marriage should probably come--figuring out how our lifestyles fit together? Like, this trip has been fantastic but I definitely don't want to default to being away from my sister for this long.

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Yeah, I know you've missed her. Go find her, I will tolerate endless public fuss.

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She grins and kisses him on the cheek and dashes off to find her sister.

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Her sister: is findable. There are hugs. Lots and lots of hugs.

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Good. A Year apart was too long, really, even if it was fun.

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It was.

A few days later she goes to visit Maitimo again.

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"Hey!"

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"Hey! Our siblings did not get spontaneously married while they were gone, yay not having to deal with the fallout."

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"I noticed!"

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"I still haven't gotten Ahya to tell me exactly how she got him to kiss her, which would worry me less if what I had gotten out of her wasn't 'dinosaur-related stupidity' and she didn't have a new scar."

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"Are they planning to do it again?"

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"Traveling, traveling for a Year, or acquiring most likely dinosaur-related scars?"

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"The latter."

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"Well, I hope not, and seeing as how she described the event as stupidity I rather don't think she's planning on a repeat."

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"Then I think I'll try not to lose sleep over it."

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"Yeah. And, you know, whatever actually happened she got him to kiss her and didn't wind up married by the time they got back, I'm going to call it a win."

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"Those seem like fairly low standards for a beloved sister. That's hardly fair."

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"By win I mostly just mean net positive. I am not under the impression that my beloved sister does not deserve far grander victories."

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"I commend both of them for their sense and hope it never deserts them."

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"Ahya has suggested that eloping wouldn't be out of the question but has promised to warn me first."

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"Whereas I, I suspect, couldn't possibly be warned."

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"Twin privileges and not being an authority privileges. Should I try to talk her down from elopement?"

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"I don't know. They should probably give it some more thought, but I can see why he doesn't want a public betrothal and wedding party and I cannot blame him."

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"Mhm. Her plan was a dinner beforehand--a smaller, private wedding party--with me and our parents and maybe a few other people who could be trusted to be discreet about it. If she actually does start arranging this or asks me to do so, should I see to it that you or any of your brothers are among the few other people?"

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"That would be nice."

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"As long as he won't be mad I told you."

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"I do not think so."

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"Alright then. If it comes up I'll be sure to let you know."

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"Thanks! Have you two had some time to catch up?"

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"Yeah, she got home a few days ago."

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"Oh, good. I haven't even seen Tyelcormo yet."

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"Twins," she shrugs.

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"So I hear. Thanks for dropping by."

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"You're welcome."

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"You should do it once in a while even with your sister home, I love hearing from you."

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"I plan to. I shall grant that she provides an acceptable source of being verbally exasperated with your family but I have grown beyond the shallow days when I thought that was your primary conversational virtue."

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"Oh? But what else could I possibly offer?"

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"Wit, charm, verbal exasperation with my family..."

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"Oh, no, have they done anything?"

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"Nothing genuinely objectionable. Mostly it's just Ahya being silly over Tyelcormo."

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"Nothing that'd be helped by talking to him -"

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"Some of it is stuff she probably should talk to him about it but that stuff she's going to of her own initiative, the rest of it is mostly composing songs to the effect of 'blond hair is so much prettier when the brain under it is not a Vanya and other reasons Tyelcormo is great'."

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He giggles.

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"I'm not even joking, I'd offer to sing the relevant one but I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone overheard and took it the wrong way."

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"That is a risk of singing songs insulting whole nations of people."

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"I mean, the song doesn't technically say anything worse about Valimar than 'collectively really not Ahya's type,' but yes."

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"And they are not around to take offense. She is probably safe enough."

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"I expect so. And yet: I am still not going to sing it in the palace. If nothing else one of your cousins could hear."

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"Or the King's wife!"

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"I will ensure Ahya also knows not to sing that one in the palace. Not that it was likely before."

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"She is lucky to have you looking out for her."

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"And vice-versa."

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"Of course."

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"I complain about her but she's amazing, really. I love her more than anything else in the world. I don't say that enough."

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"It comes through all the same."

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"Oh. Good. I'm glad. She's the best. And I'm really happy for her, regardless of what worrisome shenanigans led to it."

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"They make each other very happy, don't they."

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"It seems like it. I've seen less of how happy it makes him, though."

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"Hopefully he at least tells her."

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"Presumably, but that hasn't specifically made it into any of the songs yet."

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"I'm tempted to meddle but I bet it'd backfire."

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"Ooh, how?"

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"Tyelcormo doesn't like authority much. I get a pass but I think it's a conditional pass."

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"And it would be an authoritative sort of meddling?"

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"It'd be the kind that ran the risk of being taken that way? He's very sensitive to it, from me. I'm a very manipulative person, you know."

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"If you suggested things and I evaluated them on their own merits and attempted to execute them or not would that have the same problems?"

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"Might not."

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"Why don't you suggest things, then, and I'll take the risk into account in evaluating them."

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"I wonder if talking to him about what he wants and which of those things he has communicated would be a good idea."

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"Maybe. I don't think it would be very manipulative to suggest to Ahya specific kinds of communication to have, though, she's very much interested in 'preventing disaster via talking about our relationship like adults.'"

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"Oh good."

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"She's not really an irresponsible person. I think she'd be perfectly respectable in--well, in a society she felt like she could wholeheartedly respect."

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"I can understand that."

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"It's not just that--she doesn't care about the kind of thing Tyelcormo's gotten up to, and pretty much everyone else does. It's--she thinks that even starting with the assumption that same-sex attraction is as big a deal as everyone thinks it is, 'disownment and/or being pressured to see Lorien about it' is--not an acceptable answer.

I don't disagree."

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"Perhaps someday Eru will reveal his will more clearly."

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"We can only hope."

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"Is that Ahya's most significant complaint?"

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"She has others but yeah I think the part where she feels like people are being coerced into having their heads screwed with is the biggest one."

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"What're the others?"

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"Uh, okay."

There are sort of a lot of them, of varying levels of pettyness.

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He can relate to a few!

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That's kind of vicariously gratifying and Marille makes a mental note to relay it to her sister who will find it nonvicariously gratifying.

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He will be quite open in his support of all her grievances that don't touch on homosexuality!

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Mhm. It totally makes sense that that would be the exception. Anyway she will definitely relay his support to her sister, Ahya'll be pleased.

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"I don't care if she's respectable but I do want her to feel welcome here."

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"I do appreciate it."

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"Anyway, take care."

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And Marille will go home to catch up with her sister some more and convey support and advice.

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And her sister will appreciate support and advice and catch up and talk to some people and go talk to her boyfriend.

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"Hey."

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"Hi! I found someone to do the pink egg pendants."

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"Nice!"

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"The advantage of getting okay at a lot of different skills is that you meet a lot of people who go on to get really good at those skills."

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"I bet. They'll be so pretty."

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Yep.

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Mmm. Lack of adrenaline continues to fail to impede your kissing abilities.

I wrote a couple of songs about you and Marille refers to one of them as 'Blond Hair Is Prettier When The Brain Under It Isn't A Vanya And Other Reasons Tyelcormo Is Great,' which is kind of clunky but not actually misrepresentative of the content, wanna hear?

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...yes I do -

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She sings it. It is approximately half love song and half comedy, poking good-natured fun at assorted parties who are not him, but who share traits with him that he (according to the song) pulls off better.

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It is completely adorable.

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Not exactly what she was going for but she'll take it!

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What were you going for -

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Funny and romantic.

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Both of those, too.

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Good.

We should probably, like. Talk about our relationship. Like adults. At some point.

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If you insist, dear.

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Well, probably not right this moment.

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Agreed.

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Eventually, though, they probably should talk. Possibly when kissing has gotten involved enough that it's more comfortable to just. Cool off. Since they're not going any further yet.

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They are so responsible.

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So responsible!

"So...the most obvious thing, to me, that I mentioned earlier but we didn't really get into, is the lifestyle thing? You travel a lot and I don't want to make Year-long separations from my sister a habit."

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"She wanna come along?"

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"I could probably talk her into it sometimes but she has, like, her apprenticeship and friends and stuff."

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"I'll probably want to move around less once we've crossed the sea but settling down in Tirion sounds -"

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"Yeah, that's fair. I dunno, I don't have to come with you every time."

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"Yeah, that works. Or we could be a day's ride from Tirion and not tell anyone where so they can't come dragging us in."

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"Do people try that much?"

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"Not really. It's just kind of - there? If that makes any sense -"

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"Like how there's almost no chance anyone's going to drag anyone I know off to Lorien, let alone because I let something slip, but I'm still terrified of the possibility."

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"Yeah. Though I don't think I think about that in particular as much as you do."

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"Yeah. I mean, I don't actively think about it that much, but yeah."

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"So somewhere travel distance from Tirion'd be fine, just - not in the city."

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"That works." Snuggle. "About the distance of your parents' house, or farther?"

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"Definitely farther."

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"Makes sense."

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"Is she going to be apprenticing with my family a while longer? Because we can at least do same side of the city."

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"Yeah, I think so. Your dad is brilliant."

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"So is your sister, I'm sure."

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"She is! I imagine she wouldn't fit in nearly so well otherwise."

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"I'm pretty dumb and I get along fine with him."

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...She's going to refrain from arguing with him about that for the moment. "You're you, and Marille's Marille, and a significant chunk of how she gets along with them involves her being smart--I'm not saying being brilliant is the only way to get along with your family but I think Marille wouldn't fit in as well if she weren't brilliant. Although I could be mistaken, it probably depends on the circumstances, it might be that she would get along with them totally differently if she were interacting with them for non-apprenticeship reasons."

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"Yeah, could be, she gets along with Nelyo fine and he's not - it's not that he's not smart, but -"

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"You and he are both very different kinds of exceptional from your dad."

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"That's a way to put it."

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"Yep."

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"Anyway. Was that the big thing you wanted to plan out -"

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"There's other details we should probably talk about at some point but they're not, like, urgent, I am perfectly happy to stagger any instances of Responsible Adult Conversation."

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"Oh good because I wanted to climb the Minyon and drop this sack of silk flower petals embroidered with 'reexamine your life choices' on peoples' heads."

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"You are a delight. Let's go do that."

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They go do that. It is very satisfying.

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It is! She should probably kiss him some more, after.

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What a great idea.

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Apparently they are both really good at producing those. Possibly they should be doing this somewhere less visible than their petal-dropping point, but meh, he has a point about not giving a fuck what other people think.

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He really does. 

 

After a while they should go somewhere else though. There's not caring what people think and there's attracting a crowd.

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Yeah, that would probably be bad. They can make their daring escape and then go make out elsewhere.

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What a lovely way to spend the day.

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It really is.

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They have a planned marriage, if not a socially acceptable one; they tell not just Marillë but all of both families, and they have a going-off dinner to celebrate a trip out to the coasts, and they come back from the trip married, and no one says a word.

(Some people say words. But they are not worth listening to, and they are not listened to.)

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Ahyadacil would not be inclined to listen to them even if that was an inclination she normally had! Marriage is really distracting, in the best possible way.

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More than advertised, even! They spend almost a Year away from the city and are still pretty regularly distracted once back.

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Luckily there is nothing that's really problematic to be distracted from! They need to build a house--about a day's travel from Tirion, as they discussed, on the same side of the city as his parents' house--but that's not really urgent.

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They get to it at a delightfully unhurried pace.

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"I'm glad that went as smoothly as it did," Marille says at one point to Maitimo of their siblings' marriage. "I was sort of concerned I was going to have to annoy him by inviting you all to the dinner behind his back."

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"I really try not to be so annoying that that much subterfuge becomes necessary!"

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"Well, it certainly seems you succeeded! And, you know, people are talking, but not an unreasonable amount."

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"As long as the two of them are happy and not getting into brawls in the streets, it doesn't really matter."

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"I don't think Ahya has actually done that before."

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"Good for her! I will consider myself a triumphant brother-in-law if she continues never doing that!"

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"Although now that I think about it it's not out of the realm of possibility if someone decides to commend her on luring your brother away from his...old habits...or something."

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"Tyelcormo usually manages to politely agree to disagree with people who object to his ...choices."

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"I think she would actually be less offended by the part where it's insulting him for it than by the part where it's complimenting her for stopping it. An insult at least admits that the speaker and recipient are on opposite sides of a thing."

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"Point taken. Hopefully people will courteously forget all about malicious rumors they've heard. Or at least have the decency not to start conversations about them."

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"That would be nice. Or at least have the courtesy not to bring them up around her."

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"I will at least wait to resent their silliness until they do something silly, how about that. How are you? Not missing her too much?"

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"She's not out of osanwe range, which is the important thing."

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"That's good. Someday we'll all move and then maybe they'll even consent to live within the same walls as the rest of us."

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"Yeah, if I hadn't already convinced my parents that leaving Valinor was for the best I bet that would have done it."

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"If only the Valar were so easy to persuade."

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"Yeah, no kidding."

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"Someday."

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"Yeah. We'll figure it out."

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He nods. "It's looking like I am not going to make the recitation for my father's apprentices - Olwë is in town and assented to stay a few more days to talk trade with me - which is a shame because I had a present made for you." He pulls it out. It's a color copy of a book.

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"It's beautiful," she says, accepting it carefully.

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"Just don't obviate it in a few Years with all your new discoveries!"

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"Even if I do I shall treasure it always."

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"Take care."

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"You too."

She goes home and drops the book off.

She goes to Vorondie's.

"Guess what?"

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"Your sister punched someone defending her new husband's honor?"

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"No. Not yet at least."

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"I give up, tell me."

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"Maitimo's doing politics the day of the recitation and can't come. Which means you can."

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Sigh. "The thing where I have to avoid him is really annoying."

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"It's not that you can't be in a room with him ever! Just. Not him and me both."

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"Yeah.

I'd love to come, regardless."

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"I love you."

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"I know you do. I love you too. It'll be nice to meet the others, anyway."

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"Yeah."

They are both there, day of.

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So's he! "Marillë! Congratulations! Olwë invited me down to Alqualondë to get the agreement straightened out, so I was able to slip away after all."

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Ohh crap.

"I am almost tempted to accuse you of setting the whole thing up just so you could pleasantly surprise me," she says, because it would be a pleasant surprise under other circumstances. "...This is my friend Vorondie," because she's standing right there and it's way too late for her to sneak away, "I'm sure you already know her, you know everyone."

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"I do! How do you two know each other?"

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"We actually met through Ahya when she was trying out glassblowing."

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"Lovely!" And he moves on to give other apprentices their presents.

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Maybe he didn't notice.

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He wouldn't have made a public spectacle even if he did.

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Okay.

Even if he's nice, even if he's the prince, he's just some guy. It's not the end of the world if he noticed and judges you for it.

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I know, I just--

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I know.

It'll be okay, okay?

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I hope you're right.

The rest of the recitation passes with no more surprises.

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She isn't sure he isn't silently judging her actions but as long as it stays silent that's fine with her. The hourglass is lovely.

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They build their house. It's mostly wood and clay and it's quiet and spacious and lovely. He plants to attract hummingbirds and then pets his wife's hair in the gardens and narrates the internal monologue of the hummingbirds darting around.

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Ahya decorates the house with her own less-than-perfect handicrafts and gifts from friends made while learning them and pets her husband's hair in the gardens and loves to hear the internal monologue of the birds.

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Sometimes he embellishes. "That one thinks that the King is a bit reactionary on this whole departure-from-Valinor thing - that one thinks that Mandos could be productively replaced by three gophers in a long robe -"

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"I didn't know hummingbirds could be so complicatedly correct about things."

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"Animals are brilliant. It's people who can't seem to get complicated things correct."

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A little while after that there's a stir at Vorondië's workshop - one of the princes dropped by. "Looking for a gift for my little brother, who is now old enough not to break it - oh, these are lovely, how do you do that -"

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"How complicated an explanation do you want?"

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"- start very complicated and then I will request simplifications when I get inevitably lost?"

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Vorondie can do this! She knows lots of things about glass. And is more levelheaded about the whole prince thing than some of the others.

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He does need some simplifications but asks reasonably intelligent questions and is very impressed when she walks him through the process she invented herself. By the end he is watching her consideringly.

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She is also pretty good at simplifying things and not getting so wrapped up in nerding that she forgets. She...notices the considering look but isn't sure what to do about it, so she doesn't do anything about it for now.

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The next time he sees Marillë he doesn't say anything. Or the next one. 

 

The time after that he invites her out to see a new art installation at the sulphur springs half a day's travel from the city - "you should get out more often, Treelight strengthens the mind."

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"I get out a reasonable amount!" she protests, but accepts the invitation.

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It's lovely. It's deserted. "I wanted to talk with you about something."

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"...Does this have anything to do with the recitation."

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"I suppose tangentially. Has the poor girl been avoiding me on purpose for the last fifteen Years."

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"She's been avoiding being around you and me at the same time, but there was no more reason for her not to be around you on her own than for me to be."

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"She does not need to do that."

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"Okay.

Ahya does the whole disreputable thing on purpose. Because it's less plausible this way that one of Calairo and Ercanis' daughters desires women and it's not her."

 

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"That's thoughtful of her. I don't - think - Tyelcormo's doing that..."

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"...Tyelcormo does--well, did, but..."

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"And I don't think he knows."

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"Knows--oh."

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"I actually asked you here because I wanted to ask you to marry me.

 

Uh. As friends."

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"This is one of the weirder things that's happened to me. Uh, tentatively yes, I'm going to want to talk to Vorondie about it before saying yes for sure."

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Hug. "That makes sense. - be careful -"

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"Be careful about what? As far as I know you're the only person who's ever figured us out. ...Ahya doesn't count, I told her on purpose."

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"Then it sounds like you're being appropriately cautious but - keep being that, the royal family gets a lot of attention."

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"Yeah. We will."

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He squeezes her hand.

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"...Is this why Findekano picked her glassworks' to get a present?"

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"Wanted them to meet. It'd be convenient if that worked, we could travel as two couples with no questions, but it doesn't need to, they can decide separately."

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"So you two--huh, that makes a lot of sense in retrospect. She liked him well enough, for the amount of acquaintance they had."

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"He's lovely," he says fondly.

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"Tell me about how he's lovely so I can talk him up for her when we get back."

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He has a story about some tedious argument between their fathers, when Findekáno was still a child and Maitimo mostly grown but not yet sure of which rhetorical weapons had replaced innocent cuteness and had decided to handle it by feeding his little cousin lines. Findekáno went off script, but all for the better -

- they travelled together down south, back before there was anything to worry about raising suspicions about, they found a runaway seven-year-old, here's what happened -

- there's a song they wrote together, does she want to hear it -

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She would love to hear it.

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He sings the song. He has more stories. The lights change, silver to white-purple to gold, and they head home.

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And Marille goes to see Vorondie.

"You'll never guess what happened while I was gone."

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"Correct. If asked to do so I will guess something amusing that did not happen and then demand to know the truth when you confirm my guess's incorrectness."

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Snort. "Maitimo asked me to marry him."

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"Is this because of the recitation--does he seriously think--"

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"...Allow me to clarify. The idea is that I marry him, and if you two get along well enough, you marry his boyfriend."

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"Oh. That's actually pretty sensible. Maitimo and Findekano are boyfriends, huh."

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"I love how you didn't have to ask who it was."

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"It was contextually obvious! Even if he weren't the best candidate based on their public relationship, showing up at my place of work narrowed it down a bit!"

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"D'you want to hear endearing stories about him from Maitimo?"

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"Sure."

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Endearing stories!

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They are endearing! Vorondie is endeared.

"Well. You have my blessing to marry Maitimo, if you want, given the context. Not gonna make up my mind about my end of the plan for a while, of course."

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"Of course."

It's a while before she leaves Vorondie's, and then she has apprenticeship stuff to do, but eventually she goes to see Maitimo again.

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"Hello!"

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"Hi!"

Vorondie said yes. ...To me marrying you, not her marrying Findekano, she's not going to decide for sure on that one until she knows him a little better. Endearing anecdotes notwithstanding.

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You have found yourself a very sensible girl. Does that mean I should start courting you?

"I read a paper I thought would interest you, but perhaps you have seen it already." He pulls it out.

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Yeah, if we're going to do it we should probably be as respectable about it as possible, given the reasons why.

"I've seen that one, yeah, but it was really interesting."

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And a week later an invitation to a concert! And then a play! And then a dance! It is all splendidly respectable.

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So respectable! And, conveniently, fun things to do with a friend even when neither of you is actually attracted to the other.

They should probably have their own versions of Ahya's Adult Conversations but that can wait until it would make sense for them to admit to discussing those kinds of things.

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It should! The lack of physical affection is wholly explained by respectability too. The city is abuzz that its most eligible prince is finally dating someone.

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"This is kind of weird," Ahya tells her husband.

(Marille has explained why she is dating Maitimo. Ahya's not sharing that but it's still kind of weird.)

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"Yeah. Seriously. Why would she even like him, he's terrible -"

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"That might actually be my fault, spending so much time occupied with you and not her may have left her in need of a confidante. And he's good at that, whatever else."

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"It's great they're friends, just. Married? Can you see it? Really?"

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"...I think Marille knows what she's getting into and if this is her choice it's more important to support her than criticize her."

(No, she can't see it, but she can't really explain why, or why they're doing it anyway.)

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"Yeah but -"

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"Yeah, I know.

...I know things about why this is less of a bad idea than it seems but they're secrets and they're Marille's secrets, I can't just tell you them."

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"Secret reasons you should marry someone too uptight to - not only has he not kissed her, I'm pretty sure he's been careful to never be alone with her so people can't even wonder if he has -"

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"Frankly if you could naively imagine how they make it make sense they wouldn't be very good at being secrets."

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"True." Sigh. "You could tell Marillë she can trust me."

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"I could but considering everything I think she would want Maitimo to be okay with it first before she gave me permission to tell you. I'll bring it up with her."

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"All right." Kiss. 

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Yes, that.

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We have a minor issue, Marille tells Maitimo a while later.

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Hmmm?

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Tyelcormo has noticed that we have literally zero sexual chemistry and thinks us getting married is a really bad idea. Ahya thinks he can be trusted not to spill the beans and wants permission to tell him the truth.

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Sigh. 

- yeah, okay.

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Yeah.

There isn't much of a way of getting around the fact that we don't have any chemistry, but at least it's the kind of thing most people who aren't Tyelcormo wouldn't notice.

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Yeah. I think Tyelcormo might be more inclined to look for reasons it's a bad idea than anyone else would bother being. I could be more affectionate in public.

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Might help. On the other hand it might not, if people wonder why the change.

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That seems easy enough to pass off as getting more serious - I think even if I were really courting someone I'd be cautious with that, it wouldn't be right to go too far and then decide we weren't suited to marry -

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I see your point.

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It took me ten Years to touch Findekáno once I wanted him. Though it would have gone a bit faster if it were safe.

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It was faster than that for me and Vorondie but she took most of the initiative.

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Oh, he took all the initiative, I was just - still terribly slow. If I'd had to take any initiative I would never -

- it's important to me to be the person people think I am -

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That...doesn't surprise me.

I think I have less...issues...about--being a bad person because of this--than some people do, because I had Ahya.

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I'm glad.

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Yeah.

I love you. Not the way the Valar say a woman's supposed to love a man, but as a friend, I love you.

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Hug. 

 

And the next time they're out in public, a kiss. He's very convincing.

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She can do convincing, no matter how many faces she's making internally.

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"Maybe Maitimo's just not very romantic," he muses, "but it'd be a sort of weird thing for him to be bad at."

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"It kind of would. On the other hand, maybe he's so friendly with everyone all the time that his expressing-affection instincts are miscalibrated."

I got permission to tell you the secret but it should probably wait until we get back to the house in case you react noticeably.

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This is a lot of dramatics. Yeah, that's fine.

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It wouldn't surprise me if he just enjoys drama for the sake of drama.

Eventually they get back to the house.

Do you remember when I said that if I had liked girls and my parents had dragged me to Lorien I'd never be able to forgive them, and you commented that it was lucky I was nice and appropriately attracted to boys?

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Yeah?

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Marille isn't.

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Thaaaat seems like additional reason she shouldn't get married. To my brother. Who is a man.

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And it turns out he isn't attracted to girls. Which is. Most of the reason I expected her to need to consult him before giving me permission to tell you.

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Huh. That explains a lot. Okay, I guess they can get married. 

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I'm sure they'll be delighted to have your permission.

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It's our job to look out for them! 

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That is true. And it's a lot easier for me to look out for Marille because she tells me stuff like this. 

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It's not that Maitimo doesn't trust me it's just that he's super paranoid. In general. He doesn't tell anyone anything that actually matters.

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And I understand that but the fact that he's not keeping information from you because he doesn't trust you doesn't mean you have the information you need to look out for him.

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Yeah. Have to try anyway though.

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I know. It's one of the things I love about you.

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I love you so much. I don't give a damn what the Valar think of the whole business but I'm glad I'm attracted to boys because you are one.

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Yes, it's terribly convenient.

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My convenient beautiful amazing ~husband~.

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Forever and ever and always.

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There are advantages to having waited to have this conversation until they were back at their house.

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Oh, gosh, are there?

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She does not quite fail to give a damn what other people think of them enough to be unbraiding her hair like this in public, so yes.

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That'd be a bit much, yes. And they went to all this effort to build a lovely house, they should probably use it for something.

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That sounds like an excellent idea.

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Several weeks later, at the beginning of the summer festival, Vorondie, having been nudged to go in a certain direction by Marillë, "runs into" Prince Findekano, by "accident."

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"Hello," he says cheerfully. 

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"Hello! Would you like to talk about glass some more, or about the fact that your best friend's courting mine, because I know which of these things I find more interesting."

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"I very much doubt I've heard anything the whole city hasn't but by all means."

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"Well, true, but--most of the city doesn't know him as well as you do, I bet, or her as well as I do--and it's not that I have reason to doubt that they'd be good for each other, but..." she trails off. He certainly appears to be the most emotionally competent Feanorian, but he's still a Feanorian, and Marillë has--reminiscent failure modes--and that could either fail to be an issue or not that.

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Find my uncle a little concerning?

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I don't know if concerning is the right word--he's far from perfect but I don't really anticipate that suddenly becoming more relevant, but--

Feanorians seem kind of bad at taking care of themselves.

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Marillë doesn't strike me as especially bad at that.

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She's pretty subtle about it.

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Maybe they need - some place that's twice as Valinor.

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Twice as Valinor?

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Even slower! Even lower stakes! If they can't take care of themselves here imagine Endorë!

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Assuming everyone else was willing to go too, anyways.

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They'd follow Maitimo anywhere.

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True.

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Is she happy?

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Yeah, just sometimes I have to metaphorically shake her to get her to stop doing something unhealthy.

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I expect you will have to keep doing it!

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Yeah. 

It's really worth it.

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Did she take some convincing that being happy is allowed?

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Assuming you mean what I think you mean Ahya actually got to that before I did.

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Oh, good.

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Yeah, she got lucky.

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You?

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...Better than I could be.

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Is this hard? The two of them, I mean -

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...It's not real. If I had any doubt of that whatsoever it would be very, very hard. 

As it is I still don't like seeing him kiss her.

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He smiles slightly. 

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It's not like I don't get why but still.

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Oh, I understand.

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Yeah. 

Dunno if it'll be better or worse when they marry, let alone have a kid--at least that won't be happening in public.

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Much talked-about, though. Or does that part not bother you?

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I honestly don't know yet. It might well.

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Do you want the same thing? Forgetting 'it'd be convenient to travel as couples', I mean -

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I don't know. Maitimo gave Marillë some very endearing anecdotes to pass on to me about you but that's not the same as knowing you and marriage is--

I've considered it something completely off the table and not worth the trouble of thinking about with respect to myself for for a while. Habits of thought are hard to break.

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That makes sense.

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I think I would like to be friends with you, though. The anecdotes were pretty endearing. And. It's safe to talk to you about stuff.

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Do you know anyone else?

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Who I can talk to about this? Ahya, technically, but, uh, she's a bit preoccupied right now.

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I noticed that!

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They don't make it hard.

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They seem very happy.

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I'm happy for them! Which, you know, still doesn't make her less preoccupied and more available to complain to about my girlfriend kissing a man.

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Lots of people would probably be sympathetic to worries about one's best friend getting married and settling down, but I suppose it's really not the same.

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And it would be even worse than before, now, if I slipped and said something telling.

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People are pretty oblivious. But - yeah. Though they might just assume she'd been irresponsible and then grown out of it -

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Which would be not socially disastrous but would upset her.

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I can imagine, yeah. And you.

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Yeah. Differently, though. ...I have so far seen no evidence that growing out of same-sex attraction is a thing people do, except inasmuch as 'was attracted to both to start with, gets married' counts like Tyelcormo did, so if Marille did grow out of it that would imply Lorien, and...she likes to think her parents wouldn't try to drag her there, if they found out.

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My theory was that lots of people are at least a little bit interested in both to start with, and - when young are more willing to go against the grain, and then get older and want things like a family and a relationship they can acknowledge in public -

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Makes sense. Marille's not even a little bit interested in men, though. If she was I would be much less calm about her marrying Maitimo.

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He's also not even a little bit interested in girls, or he'd marry one for real, I think. 

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...You have my sympathy.

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He really really hates - not being who people would expect him to be, and in particular being something that would horrify them. 

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I can see the logic but it still sounds very hard on you.

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Yeah. Sigh.

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Well. Fortunately he isn't at all attracted to girls and he's marrying my girlfriend instead of someone who is actually competition.

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I would have done something if he were trying to marry a girl who was expecting a proper marriage, it'd be a disaster.

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Oh Halls yes. That would be bad.

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It's a little bit of a blind spot of his, that.

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I will put up with public kisses to spare some poor girl that.

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I don't think he'd have gone for it. But this is - better than never moving forward, I think.

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Never moving forward?

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The King thinks Maitimo should get married and have children before he takes the crown, since he can hardly do it afterwards, so absent a good way to do that I think he was just planning to - watch all his siblings marry and have children and grandchildren, make excuses, wait, wait, wait some more, eventually maybe the King would relent but maybe not -

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Yeesh. And what if Maitimo just--didn't want kids? Some people don't.

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That might go over all right, were it true.

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Would've been kind of awkward if Marille didn't.

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I assume he discussed it before telling her anything, he was very paranoid about sharing it more than necessary.

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True.

It's nice to not have to avoid ever being in the same room as both of them at the same time lest he suss out our dark secret anymore.

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Oh, were you doing that? That must have been hard, with Marillë spending more time around his family - did you skip the wedding -

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Nah, just coordinated very carefully so the three of us were never in view of each other at the same time. It was tricky. Kind of an enjoyable challenge, out of context.

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If there were less at stake. Headshake.

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...Yeah.

It was--kind of stressful--in between the recitation and Maitimo suggesting this whole scheme.

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I can imagine. He wouldn't - even if it weren't him, I don't think - but that'd hardly feel like security.

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Yeah. This is easier, that way.

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Now I will have to ask him how many poor people he's guessed about and never mentioned, and who might be living in terror that some day he'll bring it up.

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...Ooh, hadn't thought of that. We were definitely going to assume he was being nice and pretending it wasn't so before too much longer.

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Most people probably would but - if there were some way to communicate that faster -

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Yeah.

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I wonder if things'll change with time. 

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I think it's likelier than I did before I knew about Maitimo.

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I actually think he might push harder for change if he wasn't hiding anything.

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Well, I previously had no reason to expect that the amount of pushing was greater than none.

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Fair enough. I'll point that out to him, I think he might not have realized how it'd look to people wondering if he cares.

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I think wondering is the wrong word. Caring is--mostly not a thing anyone does.

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Sure, but it's Maitimo, I expect him to be on top of lots of things no one else has given any thought.

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True.

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And maybe lots of people care privately, who'd know?

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I feel like if that were the case there would be less pressure to go to Lorien whenever someone gets caught but maybe.

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I also don't have a good guess as to what rate of people have problems in the first place.

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Yeah.

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Used to imagine that perhaps it was all of them. Sigh.

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If it was literally everyone one might hope we would have had more doubts when the Valar laid down their opinions on the topic.

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I don't think it is, but I'm not sure that necessarily would have changed anything. If people thought they were alone -

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True. Well. We live in the society we live in, I suppose.

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And in a long long time maybe it'll change.

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Yeah. We've got forever.

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That's the only thing that makes me hesitate - wishing that in a hundred thousand years maybe things would change and - but it's how the universe works, even if Elves and Valar changed we still couldn't marry.

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It does seem slightly premature to say that Valar definitely couldn't change that if they wanted to, considering they have never wanted to.

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It was that way before we met them, though, it's not something they did.

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Yeah. I'm not saying they definitely could, but reembodiments aren't a thing that happens without them either. I think there's still a lot about them we don't really know.

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Yeah. If I weren't - scared of them - I'd try to get somewhere.

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I know exactly what you mean.

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Sigh.

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Some tasks are perhaps best left to those with less personal stake.

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Except I don't know if it occurs to them.

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True. Maybe the risk is worth it. I'm not in a hurry to find out.

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Yeah, me neither. 

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Well. This is a mildly depressing and fruitless conversational topic. What have you been doing, lately, and how is it coming?

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This is a much happier conversational topic! After a little description he asks after hers.

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She has been doing some really interesting things with colors! This one ingredient makes the most amazing hue in glass, but it raises the melting point inconveniently, they're still working something out to even that out.

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"Is there a lot to be done if you could work at higher melting points?"

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"It's not that it's impossible to do that, but it's usually more convenient in the long run to add something to lower it than to find a Maia who'll heat the furnace to the right level."

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"Do we still not have a good way to get high temperatures without divine intervention? I sort of expect my uncle to be fussed by that, he wants to leave someday."

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"If anyone's invented one it hasn't made its way to my glassworks, anyway."

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"Oh, I'm sure he'd make a very public announcement if he'd got it down."

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"That seems very in line with what Marille's told me."

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"They're a family with a flair for the dramatic."

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"We're still not sure he didn't tell her he couldn't be at the recitation just so he could pleasantly surprise her when he was."

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"- it wouldn't be wildly out of character, to be sure. Though he wouldn't have if he'd thought it might be an unpleasant surprise."

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"What reason could he have had to think that?" she asks lightly. It's not like he knew, before then. I think.

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That I don't think he'd have done, it'd be unkind. "I sometimes find unexpected Fëanorians an unpleasant surprise."

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"I mean, it was her recitation as Feanaro's apprentice; she wasn't expecting that Feanorian in particular but if she wasn't expecting Feanorians in general she would have bigger problems than Maitimo showing up unexpectedly."

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"That I'll grant you!!"

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"She'd probably better get used to unplanned instances of Feanorian, really, considering everything."