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I suppose if that often led to teenage rebellion things would look different.

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"It's really rare for people to have to kill their children. It's the sort of thing that gets talked about a fair bit, but - I only know of a handful of examples that really happened."

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Close calls?

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"I think the possibility is very focusing for everyone involved even in most cases where it isn't seriously considered."

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I mean, do you know anyone for whom there was a genuinely dicey situation.

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"No."

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Well, that's good then. In humans dwelling on being able to kill one's children - at least in a way that they notice - is straight-up child abuse and this is the case even though killing one's children is illegal like all other murder.

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"I mean I think it's very bad for children but if you took them by surprise you'd kill more of them, and that would be worse."

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Rather emblematic of the whole wretched pattern.

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"Ah huh."

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Snuggle.

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"It's not - that people are doing their best with what they've got. But the best they could possibly have isn't even inspiring enough you can really get them to reach for it."

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In some ways that's even more depressing!

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"I guess so." 

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I might have the wrong mental image again but I'm imagining kids trying to, like, play pretend games like human kids do, and getting slapped and sat down and lectured only instead of "don't run into the street, you'll get hit by a car" it's "learn to mark your epistemic states with one hundred percent accuracy really fast or mommy and daddy have to murder you"...

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"That is probably some kids' experience. My parents didn't go past - 'you can't talk if you're not going to be careful', you know, that sort of thing."

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That's better, then. Sigh.

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"I don't see a way to fix it, really."

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...yeah, I got nothing. Can't even cleverly route it through humans should one come by an unlimited supply. I want to figure out if you guys get an afterlife, but... well, if it were obvious someone would have noticed in the, uh, naive timeline.

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"It'd be really good to know! - if we were fast in a normal afterlife would they have noticed that -"

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They wouldn't have (if speed and not only size is a thing blocking naive conjuration), but I would have been able to get your grandmother, since I'm no longer conjuring naively.

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"Right. Okay." Sigh. "It'll help some that it'll be easier for children to buy themselves out."

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I hope so.

If there's some complicated interaction between what dimension one is in and whether one is at the time one does conjurations oneself fast, that could have them tucked into Limbo at speed, but they'd still be able to, like, write the Limboites notes... I guess unless they were just hilariously far away, far enough that even people trying to find out if Limbo is infinite wouldn't notice any buildings they'd made?

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"It'd be nice but it sounds kind of unlikely."

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On a few levels, yeah. It just seems really weird actually for there to be a human afterlife that catches everybody - and handles summoners specially - and for faeries to be able to summon, living on the same planet, and very human-like - and not get one! Beyond being disappointing that would be weird!

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