"So you can tell me to stop telling children that and I will ignore you."

"I don't want to just tell you to stop, I want you to understand why it's not a good idea even when you're confident you're right."

"I understand why you would advise me of that but I don't think I am obliged to act in a way that would be the right way for me to act if I were wrong, when I'm not wrong. It makes sense in your position to try to get me to stop but it makes sense in my position to keep doing it."

"And not to try to find a compromise where we are reassured and you can keep doing it? If you'd like, you could tell me in confidence what your evidence that this will work is, or some of it, and my word that it is sufficient will be enough to keep others from prying."

" - I could maybe do that but I would have to really trust you."

"Regardless of how much you trust me, I am required by oath to not inform anyone of anything you tell me in confidence."

"I will think about it."

"Thank you."

"Under what circumstances would you break an oath like that. Would you keep it if I said something that meant I was in danger? That other people were in danger?"

"The oath—and the laws—for psychiatrists for parahumans are not the same, I am not supposed to break confidentiality in any cases short of serious risks of mass loss of lives and destruction of property."

"People could claim that anything to do with me is a serious risk of mass loss of lives, since I could make a black hole if I wanted to."

"And the person who has to determine whether the risk is serious enough is me, and I don't think you want to nor will you want to under any circumstances."

"Does confidentiality cover it if I introduce you to another person who also doesn't present any risk of hurting lots of people."

"...I believe so, yes—but perhaps the rest of this conversation should wait until we're in private."

The driver doesn't give any signs of paying attention to them.

"Okay."

On they drive.

He checks his mail and listens to music.

And then they arrive at the HQ! It's lunchtime but almost no one is there.

He eats lunch.

And after that if he wants to talk to Doctor Ximenes she's available.

Sure he'll do that.

And the room they're in has no cameras or microphones or bugs of any kind. "Hello again, Epic. Did you enjoy lunch?"

"It was okay."

"Would you like to continue our conversation?"

"I want to watch the tapes with you. The ones that the kidnappers said the Brazilian government made and sent to them, of their people being tortured."