Vera makes a helpless gesture. "Our primary concern is stopping the alpha attacks and related problems. We can't say we like the notion of acting outside the law like this. Nor the notion that it could happen again. Which isn't the same thing as a commitment to legal methods."

"The law isn't equipped to handling this. If you'd like me to get my sister arrested for arson, I can arrange that. But Derek Hale never faced consequences for his actions, either."

"The whole point we two came here was getting a better context to the situation. We would love to know why the law can't handle this. What sort of actions Derek take?"

A brief look, shared between two.

"There was a young girl he became infatuated with. He drew another pack here to turn her, so he could have her to himself. The bite killed her."

"I see... what would Derek have had to say about the subject?"

"His family buried the evidence."

"Charming," Vera says.

Vii awkwardly pats her in the back.

"Is that related to the fire?"

"Hunters live by a code. Werewolves don't. Kate broke our code by harming innocents, but there's no doubt that she did this because of what Derek Hale got away with."

"What is your code? How sure are you about that estimation of Kate's motivation and why? And... while already barging you with questions: Why is this entire thing a secret? Wouldn't it much easier to have werewolves abide by the laws with government level resources?"

"More resources would help, but when we have secrecy, the werewolves actually try to behave. Werewolves in the Middle Ages were all violent intruders, existing on the outskirts of towns and villages. Things are better now."

"We don't harm victims of werewolves. We don't harm human bystanders. We don't harm werewolves whose packs are innocent of any crimes. We do harm human allies of werewolves and innocent pack members, if a pack kills or turns someone in our territory. We will speak to pack emissaries, if they are willing to speak to us. We try to minimize harm to our community."

Vera does not go still, but she does keep her current demeanor regardless of what she hears after "we don't harm werewolves whose packs are innocent of any crimes". There wouldn't be much of a point. Vera is quiet for a moment. She eventually settles on "my first naive impulse would be to point out that a lot changed since the Middle Ages in regards to technology," she tells Chris and to Victoria, "I am not entirely clear if Kate broke your code of conduct then as the arson's victims would fall under the umbrella of people that are allowed to be harmed."

"There were children in that house. There were humans in that house. There were innocents who a hunter that cared at all about the code would have spared."

"Would you mind if I asked why... you are sorting werewolves and non-werewolves like that."

"The innocents include the other betas. The alpha would need to be punished, unless she rejected Derek, and she wouldn't have; no mother would."

"Why? And any idea if Derek faced some sort of punishment and you just didn't hear about it? Not to mention," Vera waves, "there could be some other factors you don't know of or something."

"An Alpha is responsible for her betas. If she chose to keep a criminal in her pack rather than exiling them, or turning them over, she would be culpable herself."

"If there are other factors, it's the responsibility of the pack to explain them, not hide the bodies."

Very... absolute rules. Vera thinks but doesn't let reach her surface.

"Okay, changing topic. What about Kate? What are you planning to do?"

"I'll try my best to convince her to accept a trial. If she tries to run, we'll turn over as much evidence as we can."

"I know this must be difficult to you," Vera says, she sounds sympathetic if not particularly troubled. "Do you have plans for the alpha?"

"This alpha has already murdered multiple people. If we can kill it before it compromises its betas any further, we should be fine."

"I was speaking more in terms of specific strategies. If you have a plan to lure it somewhere, and what have you."