"We were careful, we checked all the laws — she doesn't deserve to die—"

Griffie nods. "She doesn't. Nobody does. It's horrible."

Blink blink. "—I mean, the people who went out and murdered innocent people deserve to die."

"I know that prison is expensive and dumping people on the upper planes even moreso and people get scared when the justice system changes, but I'm not sure I'd say they deserve it necessarily?"

"—You're not actually speaking Chelish, right? Does 'deserve' mean something different in your language?"

“I’m not. Hmm. If someone ‘deserves’ something, that means it would be good and appropriate for the thing to happen to the person. Like, if Alis deserves an apple, it means it would be good and appropriate for her to get an apple.”

"Well, I think it's good and appropriate for people who murdered innocent people to die for it!"

Griffie nods. "Some people where I'm from also feel that way."

"...but you don't?"

"Not really. Do you want me to talk about specific examples?"

"Sure — so, one of the people who took advantage of the riots to kill innocent people wrote a pamphlet where he took pieces of Valia's speech and then added his own words to make it look like she'd said to murder every single devilspawn even if they weren't actually Evil. And his trial was a couple days ago, and he got sentenced to death, and that's good, I'm glad, I wouldn't want him to get away with that."

"If you'd had the budget to plane shift him to some prison in Heaven he wouldn't have gotten away with it, though, he'd be getting lots of explanations about why what he did was wrong and monitoring and such and the ambient planar effects would probably be annoying for a little while and then maybe if we were lucky he'd end up better."

"I don't want him to — go to Heaven and get to just be fine forever — he doesn't deserve to go to Heaven after what he did—"

"Presumably he'd regret his actions if he was redeemed, and feel like they were horrible, and maybe try to make up for them depending on how feasible that would be!"

"I guess if he... regretted them enough that he made himself suffer as much as he deserved... that might be alright? But that seems like an awful lot to count on, when you could just kill him instead."

"I'm not sure what making him suffer would solve. I was picturing things more like fighting to retrieve any of the tieflings who went to a Lower Plane or such."

"...do people in your world just not want to hurt people who hurt them, or who hurt other people who didn't deserve it?"

"No, your opinion wouldn't be particularly strange in my world."

"...well, him suffering would solve the thing where he hurt a lot of innocent people and shouldn't get away with that?" Maybe plant-people just don't have consciences or something? 

"I guess you could call that not getting away with it, and I know some people feel closure about that, but I don't really think it would solve the thing where he hurt a lot of innocent people. You generally can't actually solve things like that. You just have to go forward."

"I mean, obviously it would be better if he hadn't done it in the first place. But he did, and making him hurt the way he hurt other people won't bring back the people he killed but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing."

"I know some people are tempted by that but I haven't had any recent conversations with people who think it's the right thing to do. If you have the energy to make him hurt you have the energy to try making sure that some of the former dependents of the victims are a bit more likely to get fed, or such. …to be clear I'm not arguing against stopping him, and maybe executing him if you can't afford to hold him. Obviously you need to prevent him from doing it again."

"You can feed the victims' families and also give him what he deserves, there's nothing stopping you from doing both."

"Can people in your world be in an arbitrary number of places at once?"

"...no? But I don't see what that has to do with anything."